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By height adjustment, you mean that it can be adjusted easily (by pushing up or down) after installation?
How high / low does it need to be able to support?
I think some monitor bases floating around eBay could work if your monitor is of a similar weight. Or maybe with some adjustment of the tension, which may or may not be readily possible. The 3M thing has a screw or something that adjusts the tension so it doesn't either go up all the way by itself or sag by itself.
Something like this, though I don't guarantee it works. At all.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LA961AA-NEW-HP-ZR22w-21-5-LCD-Column-Monitor-Base-Stand-583847-001-647941-001-/171425647749
If it actually uses the VESA holes, it's probably compatible... at least with spacers and maybe some fiddling around with the mounting. Depends on the monitor and the stand.
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ive just got a benq xl2411z. i like the 144hz. whenever i turn "blur reduction" the screen gets extreamly dark though. is there some way to fix it?
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On September 20 2014 03:29 ChriseC wrote:
ive just got a benq xl2411z. i like the 144hz. whenever i turn "blur reduction" the screen gets extreamly dark though. is there some way to fix it?
That's the intended behavior. You need to turn up the brightness, turn down room lighting, or something else to compensate. I forget how exactly BenQ's implementation works but if there are settings for the amount of blur reduction, you can turn that down (make it more blurry).
Fundamentally the blur reduction works by flashing the backlight on and off every cycle. The brightness you perceive is something like the average amount of light, so the longer it's off per cycle, the dimmer it looks.
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Anyone know if the Dell P2314H has a history of yellow tinted screens?
Reason I ask is because I have a Dell U2412M I got nearly two weeks ago and it was one of the several models manufactured that have a yellow tinted screen. I gave it a while to see if I could get used to it but the yellow tint still annoys me. I don't really want to waste time and money exchanging it over and over to try and get one without the yellow tint, and to my understanding the P2314H and U2412M have marginal differences.
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P2314H and U2412M are pretty different. P2314H's a 23" 1080p AH-IPS model, while U2412M's a 24" 1200p e-IPS model (the older generation). U2414H is the one that's very similar to the P2414H.
Out-of-box color is not all that consistent between monitors unless you get to the higher price points.
I think a rash of defects is unlikely. It's probably some combination of average behavior being a bit yellow, sample-to-sample variance, and lots of people being used to bluer displays. A bunch of laptops, cheaper computer monitors, most phones, etc. are bluer than standard 6500K color temp.
Regardless, to some degree, this is what those RGB controls can fix.
Reviews of P2x14H / U2414H don't particularly turn up strong color biases on anything reviewed, though for some of the P2x14H there does seem to be a greenish tint and color temp maybe more like 6000K across most of the colors. That's in the range of RGB controls generally being able to get it close, though. And color calibrators are a thing and aren't extraordinarily expensive if you really want to match multiple monitors.
+ Show Spoiler [review linkdump] +
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Oh god there's a U2412M and U2414H? My mistake then, I meant I have the U2412H (I'm used to writing M since I have the U2312M). I have my U2312M and U2414H side by side and even after color calibrating/messing with the RGB settings and setting it to 7500k (it was the closest to white I could get from the monitor settings) the yellow is still pretty noticeable. I wasn't really expecting the colors to be nearly perfect when I got them, but I didn't touch my settings on my U2312M and the colors are pretty much perfect, though this wasn't the case with the U2412H as aforementioned. But anyways if the P2314H is fine I'll probably pick up a second one for a dual-monitor set up so I don't have to buy color calibrators.
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No, it's U2412M (24" 1920x1200 eIPS from 2011, heavy matte antiglare) and U2414H (23.8" 1920x1080 AH-IPS from 2013, medium matte antiglare).
The last number signifies the (ones digit of the) year, where they follow the convention of putting the number of the year to come. Nobody likes buying old models, after all.
For what it's worth, I don't think review samples of U2412M showed colors that obviously off either.
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Sorry I have a really bad habit of submitting posts and editing them a few times afterwards. There doesn't exist a U2412H as I wrote in my last post.
I'm just looking at the P2414H because it goes for $140 at my college's tech store, so the U2412M is irrelevant to me.
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Dreamhack opened my eyes to the Eizo FG2421-BK VA-panel monitor, first 120hz monitor and I really like it. I recommend it for sure if you have the budget for a premium monitor. Just wish they will add some technical improvements to Sc2 in lotv so that we can hope to get more than 60fps in any late-game scenario. 
I wonder if I had waited a bit if I would have gotten the ASUS swift one instead, but I don't know if the higher resolution is worth the loss of image quality that the VA provides.
http://i.imgur.com/3Q7PeAo.jpg
The old Dell serves its use too!
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Sooo I'm back with some stupid questions now that I actually have money to buy a monitor;
A few pages back I asked if there were big panel quality differences between the two cheapest benq 144hz models, and it seems there wasn't. Cyro pointed out that there is a flaw with the blur reduction causing artefacts; it doesn't seem too much of a problem when playing though, I read a post that was saying that it isn't noticeable when looking at the center of the screen.
My question would then be, what would be the best choice to get a clear 144hz picture with low motion blur to play Counter strike on? I would like the price to be around 300 euros, which makes the benq XL2411Z ideal, if the artefact problem isn't too much of a downside. If it is, I could go up a bit more but I don't think there is any really better choice before the 500e eizo 240 hz one.
There was some talk about a new kind of 144hz panels about to come out a few pages ago too, is it worth waiting for these (knowing that I'm tired of playing CS on my shitty 60hz and missing kills because of it), and will there be some in the low price range too?
Thanks!
Edit : oh also, I don't care about 1440p, 1080 is fine, and is there a way to know if the benq screens are on v2 firmware other than asking benq/praying?
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On September 20 2014 03:29 ChriseC wrote:
ive just got a benq xl2411z. i like the 144hz. whenever i turn "blur reduction" the screen gets extreamly dark though. is there some way to fix it?
I didn't see this.. but yea that's intended behavior. You can adjust the amount of time that the backlight is on by using the blur reduction utility from like 0.5ms to 5ms. The brightness is linearly proportional to time that you leave it on, but so is the amount of motion blur. Default is ~8.34ms per refresh @120hz (100%) and at that, these monitors can usually do extremely high brightnesses, i think vg248qe is literally like 430cd/m2 (people use it at 20% brightness) so it's not a big deal to have the backlight off 80% of the time.
You should play with like 2.5ms, or preferably just use a darkened room and ~1ms for best result
@Nimix the artifact thing doesn't seem like a massive deal, at least with configured strobe timing there shouldn't be much bigger problems than any other strobe monitor. The gsync/ULMB monitors might not be released for a while and i've seen some documentation for one (1080p tn) costing ~$649 at launch, which is beyond silly so it's probably better to just buy something now. Even if it's not that price, people seem to be charging a big premium for gsync and if you're not buying specifically for gsync, it's obviously not worth.
That eizo monitor only takes 120hz inputs btw
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Yeah the eizo only takes 120 hz but duplicates all the frames right? Anyway, it's super expensive and it doesn't seem better enough than the benq to warrant buying it. I'll go with the XL2411Z then, I just need to make sure that I buy one that has the v2 firmware so that the strobe utility works (last posts I saw talking about the firmware version on blurbusters were from may/april 2014, I suppose every model has the v2 by now? :x)
Thanks for the advice!
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I'm not actually sure what it does with the "240hz", IIRC there was something with black frame insertion but the graphic doesn't make much sense to me
I think you can update the firmware through dual booting linux, even if it's a v1, but most are v2. Not really sure on anything though because i had a vg248qe before the v2's existed
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Damn the models sold on amazon france were still on v1 early july, I have no fucking idea how to dual boot linux and the only laptop I've access to is my sister's and obviously runs windows anyway. I'll ask if the most recent models are on v2, learn how to do the linux thing or buy on benq's website I guess 
Edit : haha your edit, the graphic made no sense to me either
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Lol i tried to explain it and then realized i didn't actually know what i was supposed to be looking at
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Yeah it's a blur reduction, we just don't know how it precisely works compared to benq's or lightboost etc Anyway, I ordered the last XL2411Z from amazon as it seems it's not too hard to boot on linux via USB to update the firmware, and in the worst case the v1 works pretty fine too until I can upgrade it.
Will report on how often I get called a hacker!
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One thing that's different about Eizo turbo is that it's done on hardware level in the monitor and not from a software hack. Which is what I believe I read being one of the major differences, can't remember which practical advantages one had over the other though.
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Yea it's hard to get down to the specifics of how they're using strobe backlight or fake 240hz to actually improve the display output. I read a discussion on it ages ago, but i don't think it's very well documented.
Btw for light levels while strobing, vg248qe at default is ~120cd/m2, minimum about half that
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