EPTTeamliquid Monitor Thread - Page 46
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
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Womwomwom
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On March 13 2013 04:18 Wabbit wrote: I thought the VG248QE is using that new 144Hz AUO panel, which is found in the XL2411T but not in the older 2420T (Unless there was model refresh I'm not aware of?) I have no idea what panel model that Asus and Benq currently use but fundamentally there isn't a real difference. Its a bit dodgy for me to say that they're basically the same but realistically, the biggest difference will be whether or not the application of the hardware is good, as you probably know quite well having had some trouble with black crush/banding. On March 16 2013 04:51 Durak wrote: I haven't looked at display fusion but I've been using Ultramon for years and it's awesome. Windows 8 is also a pretty good solution, though its quite expensive if you didn't get in on that $15 upgrade deal. | ||
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scudstorm64
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Asus 23'' VS239H LG 23'' IPS234V Samsung 23'' S23A300B I don't think the VS-239H-P isn't available where I'm from, and I heard that the IPS234V doesn't have the best input lag time. They all cost around the same, so which should I get for my purposes? | ||
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Womwomwom
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What store options do you have? | ||
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scudstorm64
6 Posts
On March 19 2013 17:39 Womwomwom wrote: This might be a late response. IPS234V has perfectly fine input lag, there's no way it doesn't (0.7ms, it basically doesn't have any). The problem is the rather slow pixel response but it might be a problem for you. All I can say is that it isn't quick and definitely isn't 5ms GTG. What store options do you have? Currently my store options at my price range are the ones I listed above. And yes, I was referring to the pixel response and not input lag time, my bad. Do you know exactly how slow it is, and will it be noticeable in an RTS like SC2? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Did you see prad's figures? http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-lg-ips234v-pn-teil6.html#Reaktionsverhalten Those bar graphs from top to bottom are black/white, fastest gray-to-gray, average of 15 gray-to-gray, and then processing delay + some average response time (= total input lag). The two numbers are for one transition (black to white) time and then for the other (white to black). The square wave thing to the right is how the change occurs over time. If there's overshoot past the dotted line, that means reverse ghosting. If it's slow to get to the top and bottom, that means slower response time and ghosting. Compare to other monitors, like a relatively fast IPS/PLS http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-lg-ips234v-pn-teil6.html#Reaktionsverhalten The non-P version VS239H: http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vs239h-teil6.html#Reaktionsverhalten A fast TN 120 / 144 Hz monitor: http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2012/test-asus-vg278he-teil6.html#Reaktionsverhalten | ||
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scudstorm64
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SnowSC2
United States678 Posts
I have an hd7950 and i5 2500k @ 4.4ghz, wanting to play games like cs:go at 120hz. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Two options that aren't in the OP are the newer Asus VG248QE and BenQ XL2411T. I think the former is what you want. | ||
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SnowSC2
United States678 Posts
On March 24 2013 02:46 Myrmidon wrote: Unless you sit rather far from the screen, I don't really know about 27" 1080p TN. Doesn't seem like a great idea IMHO. Two options that aren't in the OP are the newer Asus VG248QE and BenQ XL2411T. I think the former is what you want. That Asus monitor is perfect in terms of what I wanted, thanks. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
I don't know if there's much that can be said that you didn't already. Some people don't notice it, and others do. This isn't an issue of smoothness or fluidity of motion though. Other complaints non-professional users could have would be say panel uniformity (all monitors have issues to some degree, depends on the individual one you get, but QC on these LG panels is not so hot sometimes) and the grainy anti-glare coating. | ||
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Spoink
Austria150 Posts
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brainox
Germany292 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On March 26 2013 01:51 brainox wrote: noob question: Is there a possibility to adjust the brightness just while playing sc2 in windowed(fullscreen) mode ? Use the monitor's physical controls. I can't think of a single monitor that doesn't have physical brightness controls. On March 26 2013 17:43 EtherealDeath wrote: Hmm, what would be the best monitor given that as far as games go, it'd be mostly SC2 and maybe a bit of FPS games? Say around $220 or below. Assuming no more than 23"-24", but resolution is 1920x1080. Tbh I prefer smaller monitors but I think 21.5" is as far down as it goes for 1080p. If you like really small monitors (what's the real sweet spot for you?), the Asus VS229H-P (its in the OP) will work for you. IPS screen, has Asus' trace free controls, 1920x1080 in a 21.5" package. Really high contrast, all small IPS screens are really good in that regard. The Asus MX239H is probably the best choice on the market right now but its a 23" monitor and $10 more than your budget. The main difference is that its AH-IPS, which is basically your typical matte IPS but with a much lighter antiglare coating. That is to say, the sparkle effect is not as excessive. It has all the makings of a good monitor (ignoring the stand...) but I haven't seen a proper review of it so I can't be 100% certain. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On March 26 2013 18:08 Womwomwom wrote: Use the monitor's physical controls. I can't think of a single monitor that doesn't have physical brightness controls. If you like really small monitors (what's the real sweet spot for you?), the Asus VS229H-P (its in the OP) will work for you. IPS screen, has Asus' trace free controls, 1920x1080 in a 21.5" package. Really high contrast, all small IPS screens are really good in that regard. The Asus MX239H is probably the best choice on the market right now but its a 23" monitor and $10 more than your budget. The main difference is that its AH-IPS, which is basically your typical matte IPS but with a much lighter antiglare coating. That is to say, the sparkle effect is not as excessive. It has all the makings of a good monitor (ignoring the stand...) but I haven't seen a proper review of it so I can't be 100% certain. Shaky stands are really annoying lol >_<. And the MX239H seems to be sold out everywhere except Amazon where it is "will ship withint 2 to 4 weeks" wtf. Sounds as if there's gonna be a big delay on it. The VS229H-P reviews seem to say its stand is really shaky too >_> Although tbh 21.5 is probably a lot better by my tastes than 23". | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
If they have VESA mounts, you should be able to find a cheap replacement stand off eBay. HP monitor stands are plentiful and, as far as I know, all of the ones with the original Quick Release system have standard VESA screw holes. | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Tilt/swivel adjust, rotate, height fixed after installation ($21 plus shipping, monoprice): http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=5970 Tillt/swivel/height/rotate all adjustable during use ($43 shipped, Ergotron Neo-Flex): http://www.rakuten.com/prod/ergotron-33-310-060-neo-flex-lcd-stand-ergotron-neo-flex-lcd-stand-up/202785777.html Actually on a budget the Dell Professional line have decent stands and can even rotate to portrait, and they're usually slightly cheaper than the Ultrasharps, but those are TNs... I've tried using them in portrait before and got strange looks from other people. That's okay, as the monitor was getting strange looks from me. | ||
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