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On April 05 2012 10:14 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 09:05 Juddas wrote:On April 04 2012 12:14 Myrmidon wrote:
Monitors or TVs can be bad in a wide variety of ways. Which (contrast, input lag, response time, viewing angles, color gamut, inputs, stand, manufacturing quality, etc.) do you care about? You definitely can't have it all, definitely not under $200 anyway. Ok well I care about picture quality most of all. I also want it to at least have 1 HDMI, 1 VGA, and 1 AV port. Other than that, a good bit of contrast would be nice, and viewing angles would be appreciated. Just about anything else is negotiable. What do you mean by an AV port? Line out audio maybe? Component video in? What? Under $200, if you're fine with maybe getting unlucky with backlight bleeding or dead pixels or whatever, with a relatively small (so wobbly of course) stand, there's the Asus VS229H-P, which has a regular price of about $160: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2012/review-asus-vs229h-part8.htmlnote: review is for VS229H; VS229H-P should be same but with overdrive controls for pixel transition responsivenessContrast is very high for an IPS-type panel, and it seems to meet the criteria. It's only 21.5" but on the flip side that means higher pixel density at the usual 1920x1080. As for 23" options for decent picture quality, those tend to be in the $200 range or a little above, or may be a little slower or have more input lag, or something else. If you don't expect decent off-angle viewing or think that significantly shifting gamma is fine, and so on, then there's plenty of TN options out there.
Thanks for the quick reply! And by AV I mean the red white yellow.
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On April 05 2012 08:20 Wabbit wrote:
Just received an Asus VG236H and it has a dead pixel -_- as well as a white horizontal line that goes right through it (and across the whole screen, stays white no matter what background)... there's no way to fix this, huh?
If you have a white horizontal line that passes through the whole monitor, contact warranty and make them replace it. That's actually serious, unlike a single dead pixel.
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I'm having problems with my new monitor. Its native resolution is 1600x900, but my computer keeps saying that its 1440x900. I'm not sure how to fix this. I plugged the VGA cable into my graphics card ( hd radeon 5670) and its still not changing the resolution to 1600x900. Please help!!! (Btw its about a 21 inch and HP monitor)
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On April 05 2012 10:35 Juddas wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 10:14 Myrmidon wrote:On April 05 2012 09:05 Juddas wrote:On April 04 2012 12:14 Myrmidon wrote:
Monitors or TVs can be bad in a wide variety of ways. Which (contrast, input lag, response time, viewing angles, color gamut, inputs, stand, manufacturing quality, etc.) do you care about? You definitely can't have it all, definitely not under $200 anyway. Ok well I care about picture quality most of all. I also want it to at least have 1 HDMI, 1 VGA, and 1 AV port. Other than that, a good bit of contrast would be nice, and viewing angles would be appreciated. Just about anything else is negotiable. What do you mean by an AV port? Line out audio maybe? Component video in? What? Under $200, if you're fine with maybe getting unlucky with backlight bleeding or dead pixels or whatever, with a relatively small (so wobbly of course) stand, there's the Asus VS229H-P, which has a regular price of about $160: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2012/review-asus-vs229h-part8.htmlnote: review is for VS229H; VS229H-P should be same but with overdrive controls for pixel transition responsivenessContrast is very high for an IPS-type panel, and it seems to meet the criteria. It's only 21.5" but on the flip side that means higher pixel density at the usual 1920x1080. As for 23" options for decent picture quality, those tend to be in the $200 range or a little above, or may be a little slower or have more input lag, or something else. If you don't expect decent off-angle viewing or think that significantly shifting gamma is fine, and so on, then there's plenty of TN options out there. Thanks for the quick reply! And by AV I mean the red white yellow.
Composite video input (the lowest-quality analog video connection) with stereo audio in? Pretty much zero monitors have that, just TVs. Also, do you need something with speakers? Otherwise, what's the point of audio input?
There are active converters for this kind of thing. Or hopefully you don't have to use composite video anyway.
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On April 05 2012 10:38 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 08:20 Wabbit wrote:
Just received an Asus VG236H and it has a dead pixel -_- as well as a white horizontal line that goes right through it (and across the whole screen, stays white no matter what background)... there's no way to fix this, huh? If you have a white horizontal line that passes through the whole monitor, contact warranty and make them replace it. That's actually serious, unlike a single dead pixel.
Yeah, absolutely. There was no way I was going to keep it, lol. Just wondering if I should return it to the seller (some Amazon vendor) or to ASUS.
By the way, this dead pixel is weird (should I say, pixels). EDIT: Corrections: It is one stuck red pixel, surrounded by a lot of dead pixels (white because it's TN; about 20). They are together in a circle, a big nasty blob on an otherwise lovely screen. RMA'ing it now.
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On April 05 2012 11:03 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 10:35 Juddas wrote:On April 05 2012 10:14 Myrmidon wrote:On April 05 2012 09:05 Juddas wrote:On April 04 2012 12:14 Myrmidon wrote:
Monitors or TVs can be bad in a wide variety of ways. Which (contrast, input lag, response time, viewing angles, color gamut, inputs, stand, manufacturing quality, etc.) do you care about? You definitely can't have it all, definitely not under $200 anyway. Ok well I care about picture quality most of all. I also want it to at least have 1 HDMI, 1 VGA, and 1 AV port. Other than that, a good bit of contrast would be nice, and viewing angles would be appreciated. Just about anything else is negotiable. What do you mean by an AV port? Line out audio maybe? Component video in? What? Under $200, if you're fine with maybe getting unlucky with backlight bleeding or dead pixels or whatever, with a relatively small (so wobbly of course) stand, there's the Asus VS229H-P, which has a regular price of about $160: http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2012/review-asus-vs229h-part8.htmlnote: review is for VS229H; VS229H-P should be same but with overdrive controls for pixel transition responsivenessContrast is very high for an IPS-type panel, and it seems to meet the criteria. It's only 21.5" but on the flip side that means higher pixel density at the usual 1920x1080. As for 23" options for decent picture quality, those tend to be in the $200 range or a little above, or may be a little slower or have more input lag, or something else. If you don't expect decent off-angle viewing or think that significantly shifting gamma is fine, and so on, then there's plenty of TN options out there. Thanks for the quick reply! And by AV I mean the red white yellow. Composite video input (the lowest-quality analog video connection) with stereo audio in? Pretty much zero monitors have that, just TVs. Also, do you need something with speakers? Otherwise, what's the point of audio input? There are active converters for this kind of thing. Or hopefully you don't have to use composite video anyway.
Well I was planning on using this for my TV replacement and my Wii still uses that, but I guess it is a sacrifice I am willing to make
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Well that should be a pretty common issue. You can probably find out what people use to connect a Wii, like some kind of Wii output to DVI, HDMI, or VGA via some active adapter. Depending on the type there may be some latency though.
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Is there any way to disable the permissions of a program to mess with my gamma settings? I play a retarded game called Lineage 2 which screws up my adjustments made in CCC/QuickGamma, not only for itself but also in general. Any time I alt tab out of the game I have to click "Reactivate AMD color controls" in CCC, which sucks even worse because I prefer QuickGamma.
Of course I've tried google but either I'm failing miserably or idk.
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Maybe PowerStrip could help you? It holds ICC profiles within games, which normally deactivate them, so it could help you in that regard.
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I have a Samsung SA550 23in LED monitor that connects with a 15 pin dvi cable or and hdmi cable, my gpu, a gtx 570, only has mini hdmi and dvi, if I just use the dvi cord that came with my monitor am I limiting the definition I see because of the cord? basically am i getting full hd at 1920x1080 with my 15 pin dvi cable?
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Just use the DVI cable. No, you're not going to be bandwidth limited since its just a 60hz 1080P screen.
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Favorite stuck-pixel-fixing technique? In an act of cosmic justice, one of my monitors sprouted a stuck pixel one day after I taught someone how to unstick a pixel on his own monitor. Cruelty is my tricks aren't working on my own fucking monitor 
I did manage to make it switch from being stuck-red to stuck-green.
NVM!
Got to go from red->green->white -> back to red, and then finally unstuck.
Yay.
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My S23A700D should be arriving in the next 2 days, will post first impressions if someone's interested.
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My suggestion is to post impressions & comments after at least a week. That way you'll get some time to play around with it, see how it looks in different scenarios (desktop, gaming, movies, etc.), maybe do some calibration, etc.
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Just a heads up. The Eizo Foris FS2332 (300 Euro) and FS2331 (230 Euro) have fairly interesting prices now. You can find them on FNATIC's website, presumably because Eizo sponsors FNATIC. At that price, I doubt you'll be getting the monitor + EasyPIX/Spyder 3 Pro combo pack.
The Eizo Foris FS2332 uses a Samsung PLS panel, which means it has all of the benefits of IPS but with a much better screen coating. The Eizo Foris FS2331 is the only cPVA monitor in existence with both good overdrive application and low input lag though your mileage may vary greatly. Both don't come with height adjustment but have very easy to use VESA screw holes on the back.
Both will probably have the mother of all warranties (5 years on panel and electronics IIRC) too.
On April 16 2012 21:05 Joodoo wrote:
My S23A700D should be arriving in the next 2 days, will post first impressions if someone's interested.
Yeah that would be appreciated. If possible, could you run this test and tell us whether or not the gradients have heavy banding or not - if you have a good camera, taking a photo of it would be cool too. The other 120hz monitors seem to have a bit of a problem with shade differentiation so it'd be nice to know if the Samsungs have the same issue...there hasn't really been any review of these monitors save for a PRAD.de review that's stuck behind the paywall.
Honestly it very likely won't matter, I'm fairly certain you'll like the monitor especially if you didn't have a good one before. But its still nice to know.
Also, the "Faster" setting provides the best motion performance since its literally perfect. "Normal" isn't aggressive enough and "Fastest" is too aggressive. I'm pretty sure Samsung's default setting is "Faster" but just letting you know so you don't have to spend an hour checking A vs. B. vs. C.
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So I have the Dell U2711, and I hate it honestly. That backlite glow is killing me. I have to play with the light on in my room or most games with ant dark spots look gray. And for games like Sins of a Solar Empire (awesome game), the backgrand always looks wash in gray.
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On April 20 2012 09:02 woody60707 wrote:
So I have the Dell U2711, and I hate it honestly. That backlite glow is killing me. I have to play with the light on in my room or most games with ant dark spots look gray. And for games like Sins of a Solar Empire (awesome game), the backgrand always looks wash in gray.
Is it calibrated? Looks bad on everything or just games? Have you tried turning down the brightness, sRGB mode, what?
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How close is the monitor from your head? If its around half a meter, then you're going to see the dreaded IPS glow. All H-IPS and eIPS monitors will exhibit white glowing around the edges/corners if you sit too close. There used to be something called the A-TW filter that eliminated this glow but these days you will only find it in halo products like HP's Dreamcolours ($3000 for a 24" monitor).
As far as I know, the only easily attainable IPS/PLS monitor that won't exhibit silver IPS glow is the Dell ST2220T. The IPS glow is not silver on that monitor. Its a dark violet, which is a billion times better.
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It certainly could be heavy backlight bleeding and if you think its that, ask for a refund or exchange it with Dell.
LG, for whatever reason, keeps producing IPS technology revisions that get worse and worse in most departments but price. I have no idea if LG is responsible for H-IPS and E-IPS but they are nowhere near as good as Hitachi's old S-IPS panels. Shit man, the NEC 20wmgx2 is still the king of LCD monitors and its been god knows how long.
Besides this, the black depth on the Dell U2711 is inline with most non-VA monitors so if that really bothers you, you probably won't find a really good LCD monitor. Knocking the brightness down will definitely improve the black depth...besides that, there isn't much you can do.
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