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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sqbZZ.jpg) So, not knowing there already was thermal paste I applied a thin layer to the heat spreader on the top of the cpu like everyone told me and just put the cooler on top. My question is is it worth it to pull off the cooler and try to remove some of the paste or should it be okay? I haven't even used the pc yet since it's missing an OS at the moment but I did power it on for a few minutes and it appeared okay. Hoping it's fine since I'm out of thermal paste at the moment. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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Peanutbuttah
Canada68 Posts
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
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Duka08
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
1) How would I check the temperature of the cpu? Is there a preferred program for this? 2) What would acceptable temperatures be? 3) How would I go about removing some paste if it was too hot? Would taking an old credit card or something to skim off some extra and simply putting the fan back on be a good idea? Or do I need to completely clean off all of the paste and reapply? | ||
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Molybdenum
United States358 Posts
On December 24 2011 11:59 Phyre wrote: So a few follow up questions then: 1) How would I check the temperature of the cpu? Is there a preferred program for this? 2) What would acceptable temperatures be? 3) How would I go about removing some paste if it was too hot? Would taking an old credit card or something to skim off some extra and simply putting the fan back on be a good idea? Or do I need to completely clean off all of the paste and reapply? 1) Any program of choice such as HWmonitor or realtemp for example 2) Depends on your ambient temperatures/case/etc but it should ideally idle below 40 or so and max out around 60? It's fairly subjective as it will depend on your setup. 3) Completely clean it off (using rubbing alcohol and something like a coffee filter) would be ideal. | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
On December 24 2011 11:59 Phyre wrote: So a few follow up questions then: 1) How would I check the temperature of the cpu? Is there a preferred program for this? 2) What would acceptable temperatures be? 3) How would I go about removing some paste if it was too hot? Would taking an old credit card or something to skim off some extra and simply putting the fan back on be a good idea? Or do I need to completely clean off all of the paste and reapply? 1. I like to use speedfan for this. You can check voltages/temperatures/fanspeeds/HD temperatures depending on your hardware. 2. If its idle you don't want it above 50, which is already a tad warm-- below 40 is a better range (in windows, BIOS is sometimes a bit warmer). I think the maximum spec temperature for that cpu is 72C or so, but it really shouldn't be running near this at full load. 3. You could, but having a decent fan is more of an issue imo. It might run a tad warmer with a stock fan. (edit  -- as the posters below me note, you want need SOME paste, but you want contact between the two. --heres an article on how to apply grease: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/How-To-Correctly-Apply-Thermal-Grease/274/1EDIT: ninjad. | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
On December 24 2011 12:18 caradoc wrote: 1. I like to use speedfan for this. You can check voltages/temperatures/fanspeeds/HD temperatures depending on your hardware. 2. If its idle you don't want it above 50, which is already a tad warm-- below 40 is a better range (in windows, BIOS is sometimes a bit warmer). I think the maximum spec temperature for that cpu is 72C or so, but it really shouldn't be running near this at full load. 3. You could, but having a decent fan is more of an issue imo. It might run a tad warmer with a stock fan. EDIT: ninjad. Whatever you do, you NEED thermal paste, if you dont use thermal paste it's like not using any fan at all because the heat will actually go into the heatsink.. Rubbing alcohol is good and then re-apply with thermal paste is your best bet if temps are too high. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On December 24 2011 12:24 Josh_rakoons wrote: Whatever you do, you NEED thermal paste, if you dont use thermal paste it's like not using any fan at all because the heat will actually go into the heatsink.. Rubbing alcohol is good and then re-apply with thermal paste is your best bet if temps are too high. Lol what.. you want the heat to go into the heatsink. That's the entire purpose of it... thermal paste is used to fill in the imperfections as its a better conductor than air. | ||
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TeaGreen
Canada147 Posts
On December 24 2011 12:24 Josh_rakoons wrote: Whatever you do, you NEED thermal paste, if you dont use thermal paste it's like not using any fan at all because the heat will actually go into the heatsink.. Rubbing alcohol is good and then re-apply with thermal paste is your best bet if temps are too high. Lol huuuh? You want the heat to go to the heat sink...the purpose of the heat sink and the fan is to help dissipate the heat much faster...not using thermal paste is not like not using a fan. A thin layer is ideal but if you see ok temps it's not really worth the trouble unless you're OCD kicks in or you don't mind doing stuff like this. I use SpeedFan. God damn it the guy above me said like the exact same thing I said now I look dumb... | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
On December 24 2011 12:52 TeaGreen wrote: Lol huuuh? You want the heat to go to the heat sink...the purpose of the heat sink and the fan is to help dissipate the heat much faster...not using thermal paste is not like not using a fan. A thin layer is ideal but if you see ok temps it's not really worth the trouble unless you're OCD kicks in or you don't mind doing stuff like this. I use SpeedFan. God damn it the guy above me said like the exact same thing I said now I look dumb... LOL, oops, sorry, that was actually a mis-typ,e it's actually the exact opposite as you said, what i meant to say - If you dont have thermal paste then very little of the heat go into the heatsink because air is a bad conductor of heat therefore you may as well not even use one :D LOL i do actually know that... To my defence it is 4 AM in the UK :D | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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Boblhead
United States2577 Posts
On December 24 2011 12:52 TeaGreen wrote: Lol huuuh? You want the heat to go to the heat sink...the purpose of the heat sink and the fan is to help dissipate the heat much faster...not using thermal paste is not like not using a fan. A thin layer is ideal but if you see ok temps it's not really worth the trouble unless you're OCD kicks in or you don't mind doing stuff like this. I use SpeedFan. God damn it the guy above me said like the exact same thing I said now I look dumb... he seems to mistype alot..... | ||
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boredrex
United States137 Posts
On December 24 2011 13:39 slytown wrote: grain of rice. that's all u need. nothing more. I'm curious about this - I recently installed a CPU cooler, but I couldn't cover the entire surface of the heat plate with so small a quantity - also the instructions made is clear to put quite a bit on. I used a credit card to spread it as thin as I could, but i probably used 1/4 of a tube of Artic Silver 5. Cooler is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus, if that helps | ||
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Medrea
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On December 24 2011 23:23 boredrex wrote: I'm curious about this - I recently installed a CPU cooler, but I couldn't cover the entire surface of the heat plate with so small a quantity - also the instructions made is clear to put quite a bit on. I used a credit card to spread it as thin as I could, but i probably used 1/4 of a tube of Artic Silver 5. Cooler is a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus, if that helps The theoretical right amount is the amount that fills in the gaps on the CPU and heatsink, created from an imperfect manufacturing process, so you get 100% surface contact between the 2. By adding too much thermal compound you are creating extra material that the heat needs to travel through. I have the same cooler and I used a bit less than you and spread it with my finger in a plastic bag, although I think I could have probably used less. Not that it matters too much, I'd say a bit too much is better than a bit too little and as long as its not spilling out onto the motherboard it should be fine. | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u57670/applyingpaste.jpg Is about the right amount(although i'd put less), the intel cooler comes with over 3x that. I feel your load temperatures will be impacted by 2-3degrees if you added more ontop of what intel already has. It wont impact a general user much, but 2-3 degrees will help substantially when going for higher safe & stable overclocks. | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
I don't think i've ever mis-typed before this actually.. :D made a lot of mistakes though.. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/tempsf.png/ I tried looking up what a PCH is and didn't seem to find a conclusive answer as to what is an acceptable temperature or if this is cause for alarm. When I first started up Speedfan immediately after Skyrim the GPU and all of the cores had that little flame icon too with a temp of mid 40s I think but only for a second, then they dropped to what is in the screenshot. Should I be worried or is this within acceptable ranges? The GPU is a Geforce 560ti if that matters. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
You can see Intel's guidelines here: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/6-chipset-c200-chipset-specifications-and-guidelines.html Tj,max = 108C Tcase-max = 104C Sounds good to me. That Tcase-max is like 30C over what they specify for the CPUs. | ||
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