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Kingqway
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States155 Posts
December 09 2011 03:39 GMT
#1081
tenkeyless is amazing; I prefer both. I don't use the numpad often, but when I do it feels nice to have around. But in the end, I think I prefer tenkeyless the most simply because its so space-saving and feels like theres a lot more breathing room / less clutter with the numpad off. It's a preference thing in the end.
ddong
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 09 2011 04:02 GMT
#1082
On December 09 2011 05:07 Zlasher wrote:
Why do some people prefer tenkeyless? Am I the only one who uses the numpad quite a bit? Does that extra size bother that many people

It's better ergonomically if you don't have the tenkeys. Otherwise you end up putting strain on your shoulder because your mouse has to be shifted more to the right.
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
December 09 2011 04:11 GMT
#1083
On December 09 2011 13:02 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 05:07 Zlasher wrote:
Why do some people prefer tenkeyless? Am I the only one who uses the numpad quite a bit? Does that extra size bother that many people

It's better ergonomically if you don't have the tenkeys. Otherwise you end up putting strain on your shoulder because your mouse has to be shifted more to the right.


If your keyboard is placed in the right place you don't need a tenkeyless, I only optd for a fc500r because i don't like typing numbers without a numpad, I don't see any strain or feel strain on my shoulders while playing/browsing/working.
Hydra`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong42 Posts
December 09 2011 06:22 GMT
#1084
I use the numpad a lot, I assume a lot of people do as well for numbers related jobs.
Hai.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 09 2011 06:45 GMT
#1085
On December 09 2011 10:40 Boblhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:42 Reggiegigas wrote:
On December 09 2011 05:09 skyR wrote:
On December 09 2011 05:07 Zlasher wrote:
Why do some people prefer tenkeyless? Am I the only one who uses the numpad quite a bit? Does that extra size bother that many people


Because those people don't use the numpad and yes the numpad does take up quite a bit of space. Only reasons to have a numpad for that I can think of is for data entry and secondary hotkeys for an MMO.

Most people don't, but it's really nice to have it available for the odd time when it does prove useful. To me it just seems like you're getting less of a keyboard. Like, not a complete board.


Thats not true.... all the Numpad keys are on the tenkeyless board. With a full sized your just getting extra numbers /*-+. and enter.

Dunno if you've tried, but if you want to do some maths calculations for whatever reason it's a total pain in the ass without a numpad and that alone is reason for me to never get a tenkeyless board
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 07:43:03
December 09 2011 07:36 GMT
#1086
Filco and some other brands sell seperate tenkey pads so you can use a tenkeyless board and still have the use of the tenkeys when you need it.

On December 09 2011 12:28 ins(out)side wrote:
I just got myself a lovely new Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja with Cherry Browns and couldn't be happier with the way the things types and feels and sounds.

I'm just a bit noob when typing and when my hands get out of position I tend to just look down at the keyboard to make the adjustment on the fly. With the letters printed on the front with this baby, its not quite as easy as it used to be =)

I just see it as an incentive to master my typing skills without having to look at the keyboard, which wastes precious time in SC2 anyway.

BTW that Corsair looks amazing!


I really recommend learning typing with ten fingers. It makes it a whole lot easier to type without looking at the board (at least if you don't want typos). I went from my selfmade type style using 6-8 fingers to touch typing with 10 within a month. Find some program (there's online ones as well as software, some are free) and use it as much as you can each day and you'll probably get a hang of it pretty soon. It doesn't matter if you take it slow in the beginning as the most important aspect is to "deprogram" your fingers usual pattern. You won't neccesarily type much faster but it should lead to less typos and less need to look at the keyboard. Good luck!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 09 2011 07:47 GMT
#1087
On December 09 2011 15:45 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 10:40 Boblhead wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:42 Reggiegigas wrote:
On December 09 2011 05:09 skyR wrote:
On December 09 2011 05:07 Zlasher wrote:
Why do some people prefer tenkeyless? Am I the only one who uses the numpad quite a bit? Does that extra size bother that many people


Because those people don't use the numpad and yes the numpad does take up quite a bit of space. Only reasons to have a numpad for that I can think of is for data entry and secondary hotkeys for an MMO.

Most people don't, but it's really nice to have it available for the odd time when it does prove useful. To me it just seems like you're getting less of a keyboard. Like, not a complete board.


Thats not true.... all the Numpad keys are on the tenkeyless board. With a full sized your just getting extra numbers /*-+. and enter.

Dunno if you've tried, but if you want to do some maths calculations for whatever reason it's a total pain in the ass without a numpad and that alone is reason for me to never get a tenkeyless board


Good keyboards have number lock so you get a pseudo-num pad. Saves space and works just as well.
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
December 09 2011 08:04 GMT
#1088
On December 09 2011 15:45 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 10:40 Boblhead wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:42 Reggiegigas wrote:
On December 09 2011 05:09 skyR wrote:
On December 09 2011 05:07 Zlasher wrote:
Why do some people prefer tenkeyless? Am I the only one who uses the numpad quite a bit? Does that extra size bother that many people


Because those people don't use the numpad and yes the numpad does take up quite a bit of space. Only reasons to have a numpad for that I can think of is for data entry and secondary hotkeys for an MMO.

Most people don't, but it's really nice to have it available for the odd time when it does prove useful. To me it just seems like you're getting less of a keyboard. Like, not a complete board.


Thats not true.... all the Numpad keys are on the tenkeyless board. With a full sized your just getting extra numbers /*-+. and enter.

Dunno if you've tried, but if you want to do some maths calculations for whatever reason it's a total pain in the ass without a numpad and that alone is reason for me to never get a tenkeyless board


i have several fullsized boards and a noppo choc mini... I use fullsized boards over anything else, unless im traveling with a laptop then i take the mini.
isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 08:09:23
December 09 2011 08:09 GMT
#1089
tenkeyless keyboards are crippled abominations for me. dont feel right, dont look right haha
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 09 2011 08:26 GMT
#1090
On December 09 2011 16:47 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 15:45 Shikyo wrote:
On December 09 2011 10:40 Boblhead wrote:
On December 09 2011 09:42 Reggiegigas wrote:
On December 09 2011 05:09 skyR wrote:
On December 09 2011 05:07 Zlasher wrote:
Why do some people prefer tenkeyless? Am I the only one who uses the numpad quite a bit? Does that extra size bother that many people


Because those people don't use the numpad and yes the numpad does take up quite a bit of space. Only reasons to have a numpad for that I can think of is for data entry and secondary hotkeys for an MMO.

Most people don't, but it's really nice to have it available for the odd time when it does prove useful. To me it just seems like you're getting less of a keyboard. Like, not a complete board.


Thats not true.... all the Numpad keys are on the tenkeyless board. With a full sized your just getting extra numbers /*-+. and enter.

Dunno if you've tried, but if you want to do some maths calculations for whatever reason it's a total pain in the ass without a numpad and that alone is reason for me to never get a tenkeyless board


Good keyboards have number lock so you get a pseudo-num pad. Saves space and works just as well.

It has a horrible feel to it in my opinion o.O Love my numpad, also there\s no enter key in the proper spot like that
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 08:55:27
December 09 2011 08:52 GMT
#1091
With desktop keyboards its fine but I have no idea why they exist on laptops. The number pad takes up so much horizontal space that it forces manufacturers to put speakers at the top of the machine instead of the sides. This then forces them to implement either screens with huge bezels, since no one but Apple uses 16:10 panels, or unergonomic off-center touchpads the size of sticky notes.

Its honestly not that hard to use, if its good enough for IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads its good enough for me. The enter key is to the right of the number pad matrix...its not much different unless you are so reactionary that new things hurt you. If you try it for a week, without already making making a conclusion at the start, its honestly not any different from a real physical numberpad.
Thraxis
Profile Joined November 2010
United States36 Posts
December 11 2011 07:05 GMT
#1092
Just got my Steelseries g7 and my god is it amazing. Coming from a G15, a cheapy keyboard before that, an inlaid keyboard (think laptop) with see through keys and blue back lighting. Nothing compares to this feel of typing. And this is still like hour one. Major downside so far is the backspace is the size of a regular key instead of a bigger bar that's 2-3 keys wide. Will take a bit of getting used to but everything else feels fine. Don't have time to sit with SC2 tonight and try it out, but typing so far has been so much more enjoyable. Takes so much less space than most keyboards do, the f keys seem a bit closer and having the F keys + a Steelseries key activate music is a pretty cool idea to save space and look less gimmicky. Overall so far first feel is a 9/10
viper770
Profile Joined May 2011
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 15:44:13
December 12 2011 15:41 GMT
#1093
Leopold Tenkeyless Reds price cut to $89.00 !!! (Black board only)
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=fc200rrab
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
December 12 2011 15:56 GMT
#1094
On December 13 2011 00:41 viper770 wrote:
Leopold Tenkeyless Reds price cut to $89.00 !!! (Black board only)
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?pid=fc200rrab

holy fuck thats amazing.
my friend said he was buying me blues last night, hopefully he hasnt yet so i can save him some money.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 16:13:17
December 12 2011 16:04 GMT
#1095
On December 08 2011 15:22 DjRetro wrote:
[image loading]

I'm gonna buy this keyboard (red switch) when it'll be available in U.S... looks so fucking sexy lol. Definitively i felt in love lol

Either way, you guys can buy it here. :'D

Here you have more about it: http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfirerapidred/



That looks very sweet, i havnt heard much good stuff about red switches but if they are just a lighter version of blacks they should be ok, lack of numpad is a bit weird though
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 19:11:55
December 12 2011 18:43 GMT
#1096
just got my new keyboard, all i can say is..
[image loading]

Sex.

(its the small one - noppoo choc mini w/ black switchs)

edit: and the box was pretty cute, looked like something sen would write lol (i think they have abs caps aswell but im not sure, they def have pbt caps tho)

[image loading]
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
December 12 2011 18:46 GMT
#1097
On December 13 2011 03:43 TT1 wrote:
just got my new keyboard, all i can say is..
[image loading]

Sex.

(its the small one - noppoo choc mini w/ black switchs)


Very nice.

Why did you go for a compact keyboard if I may ask?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 19:12:20
December 12 2011 19:05 GMT
#1098
On December 13 2011 03:46 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 03:43 TT1 wrote:
just got my new keyboard, all i can say is..
[image loading]

Sex.

(its the small one - noppoo choc mini w/ black switchs)


Very nice.

Why did you go for a compact keyboard if I may ask?


just wanted to try something new but the main reason i got this keyboard was for the f keys
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
.Mystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada486 Posts
December 12 2011 20:15 GMT
#1099
I never noticed the f keys on the choc mini is right above the numbers. Would be a perfect keyboard for my hotkeys, using f keys as well. hmmm damn for now ill stick to my das.
Shortynut
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia78 Posts
December 13 2011 02:05 GMT
#1100
On December 09 2011 13:02 babylon wrote:
It's better ergonomically if you don't have the tenkeys. Otherwise you end up putting strain on your shoulder because your mouse has to be shifted more to the right.



It's also better for gaming because those numbers are so far out of reach for your left hand you are basically forced to waste time moving or use your right hand, not not only that ON THE FLY the dimensions of the keyboard pretty much tell you where everything is.

e.g if I need to use the arrow keys on my Leopold brown tenkeyless (for whatever reason) i know they are so close to the edge that my touch sense can figure it out without much though going into it. I don't think i could ever go back to full-size unless i become an accountant, which will never happen.
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