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Kaputnik
Profile Joined August 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 00:46:59
October 31 2011 00:43 GMT
#681
On October 30 2011 13:30 divito wrote:
I've been loving my Lycosa, but I've been mulling over jumping to a Das Ultimate. Does anyone happen to know if a mechanical keyboard exists with flat keys like the Lycosa, or does the aspect of flat keys not really work with mechanical switches?


I'll second that the closest you'll get is a good scissor switch board. Scissor switches are "semi mechanical" in a way, some of them have a pretty good tactile feel.

My favorite scissor switch board has to be the Logitech UltraX:

[image loading]
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 31 2011 01:11 GMT
#682
On October 31 2011 06:31 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 18:06 Boblhead wrote:
On October 30 2011 14:24 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On October 30 2011 14:20 Blaec wrote:
On October 30 2011 13:30 divito wrote:
On October 30 2011 11:39 JingleHell wrote:
So I was using a Lycosa because I was dumb enough to believe it when Razer said they'd fixed the issues they had.

What issues were you having?

I've been loving my Lycosa, but I've been mulling over jumping to a Das Ultimate. Does anyone happen to know if a mechanical keyboard exists with flat keys like the Lycosa, or does the aspect of flat keys not really work with mechanical switches?

I don't really have a problem with regular-style keys, but the highlight of picking up the Lycosa when it first came out was the flat laptop-style keys. I find they're more enjoyable to type on and makes it a little faster.


afaik there is no flat keys. Mechanicals only come with fairly tall keys.

If you want something with flat keys maybe try out a scissor switch board.


the apple keyboard, best scissor switch keyboard out there

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this makes my eyes hurt


i hope because its so beautiful

I'm not a fan of scissor switch keyboards and especially not a fan of apple's take on it. With all scissor switch keyboards I tend to make more mistakes than usual cause I touch type and it's easier to find the keys with a raised keyboard cause the sharply defined spaces between each keyboard make it easier to find where one key ends and the other begins. This problem is only intensified by the apple keyboard because in an attempt to make their design look minimalist or something their keys are even lower than most scissor switch keyboards, which not only leads to more errors but also makes my hands more uncomfortable because they are so flat and I have to put my palm/wrists at an awkward position just to type the way i usually do.
GloryOfAiur
Profile Joined October 2011
United States127 Posts
October 31 2011 04:01 GMT
#683
For $80 this is pretty nice! Great reviews as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
October 31 2011 19:43 GMT
#684
I fell in love my friend's IBM Model M the other day. Does anybody which keyboard type would have the most similar feel, or am I better off trying to pick up an ebayed Model M?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 31 2011 19:57 GMT
#685
^ebayed model M, as far as I know no one makes buckling spring keyboards anymore
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 20:05:19
October 31 2011 20:04 GMT
#686
On November 01 2011 04:43 GeneralStan wrote:
I fell in love my friend's IBM Model M the other day. Does anybody which keyboard type would have the most similar feel, or am I better off trying to pick up an ebayed Model M?

You can buy new Model M keyboards. There is a business called "Unicomp" that manufactures USB keyboards with the technology of the IBM Model M: http://www.pckeyboard.com/

About keyboards that use Cherry MX switches, I guess you could try out blue switches. When the blue switches make their click sound, a part inside the switch falls off to reduce the resistance you feel. This could be Cherry trying to simulate the feel of a buckling spring collapsing?

GIF animations I found through Google:
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Cherry MX Blue:
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IBM Model M Buckling Spring:
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 20:14:29
October 31 2011 20:13 GMT
#687
looking at that site some of keyboards are going to be cheaper than Cherry MX switches anyway, and the buckling spring keyboards have a much more pronounced tactile bump than the blue switches do, although ofc that's the closest you're going to get with Cherry switches.

edit- also the fact that your friend has a model M= most boss ass friend ever.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
October 31 2011 20:28 GMT
#688
On October 31 2011 09:43 Kaputnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 13:30 divito wrote:
I've been loving my Lycosa, but I've been mulling over jumping to a Das Ultimate. Does anyone happen to know if a mechanical keyboard exists with flat keys like the Lycosa, or does the aspect of flat keys not really work with mechanical switches?


I'll second that the closest you'll get is a good scissor switch board. Scissor switches are "semi mechanical" in a way, some of them have a pretty good tactile feel.

My favorite scissor switch board has to be the Logitech UltraX:

[image loading]

that looks fucking awesome
are they similar to laptop keyboards? i find them a bit strange to type on at times
i was looking into a mechanical keyboard but was kinda put off spending £80+ on one tbh
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
October 31 2011 20:37 GMT
#689
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Why? Because it feels so good to just hit my keys.

Anyway ,

I like my scissor switches as well for typing when I had an apple but I prefer these Cherries because of the double tapping.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
RastaMonsta
Profile Joined October 2011
304 Posts
October 31 2011 20:37 GMT
#690
Razer blackwidows doing great for me so far. My first mechanical keyboard
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 31 2011 20:47 GMT
#691
On November 01 2011 04:43 GeneralStan wrote:
I fell in love my friend's IBM Model M the other day. Does anybody which keyboard type would have the most similar feel, or am I better off trying to pick up an ebayed Model M?


das keyboards are reviewed as having an incredibly similar feel to the model M
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
October 31 2011 20:51 GMT
#692
On October 31 2011 13:01 GloryOfAiur wrote:
For $80 this is pretty nice! Great reviews as well.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201040
Yeah I have one, it's great.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
tUUTZ
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland122 Posts
October 31 2011 20:53 GMT
#693
How can anyone like scissor switches, I don't know anything as horrible. D:
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
October 31 2011 21:14 GMT
#694
On November 01 2011 05:53 tUUTZ wrote:
How can anyone like scissor switches, I don't know anything as horrible. D:


I used to use my apple keyboard all the time before I got my blackwidow ultimate

it's a rather pleasant typing experience
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 31 2011 21:15 GMT
#695
On November 01 2011 05:53 tUUTZ wrote:
How can anyone like scissor switches, I don't know anything as horrible. D:

They're a step up from rubber domes though
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
October 31 2011 21:19 GMT
#696
On November 01 2011 05:28 ThatGuy89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 09:43 Kaputnik wrote:
On October 30 2011 13:30 divito wrote:
I've been loving my Lycosa, but I've been mulling over jumping to a Das Ultimate. Does anyone happen to know if a mechanical keyboard exists with flat keys like the Lycosa, or does the aspect of flat keys not really work with mechanical switches?


I'll second that the closest you'll get is a good scissor switch board. Scissor switches are "semi mechanical" in a way, some of them have a pretty good tactile feel.

My favorite scissor switch board has to be the Logitech UltraX:

[image loading]

that looks fucking awesome
are they similar to laptop keyboards? i find them a bit strange to type on at times
i was looking into a mechanical keyboard but was kinda put off spending £80+ on one tbh


Laptop keys are scissor switches, because they need to be so flat in profile for the lid to close.
Scissor switches are only good in that they are flat profile, they don't really provide anything else (and technically had less give than a rubber dome).
Yargh
Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
November 01 2011 04:00 GMT
#697
On November 01 2011 05:47 renaissanceMAN wrote:
das keyboards are reviewed as having an incredibly similar feel to the model M

lol at that. MX switches feel very different from buckling spring switches.

I just got a vintage Model M in the mail today and I'm loving it. Seems like my Unicomp (which is a newly manufactured Model M) is a bit louder and stiffer, I guess because it has newer springs. Could be my imagination though, I haven't been able to test them side by side yet.

I am going to be selling the Unicomp if anyone is interested.
ESPORTS prevails
DjRetro
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Chile309 Posts
November 01 2011 06:29 GMT
#698
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/ Have you guys ever used those kind of keyboards? they look amazing... i'm seriously considering to get one. You can choose you favourite kind of MX switch as well!!

I'm looking for reviews on youtube atm, their price should be enough to think that these keyboards are great.
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Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
November 01 2011 06:33 GMT
#699
On November 01 2011 15:29 DjRetro wrote:
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/ Have you guys ever used those kind of keyboards? they look amazing... i'm seriously considering to get one. You can choose you favourite kind of MX switch as well!!

I'm looking for reviews on youtube atm, their price should be enough to think that these keyboards are great.

I've never used one myself, but by all accounts they are fantastic.
ESPORTS prevails
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 01 2011 06:46 GMT
#700
On November 01 2011 15:29 DjRetro wrote:
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/ Have you guys ever used those kind of keyboards? they look amazing... i'm seriously considering to get one. You can choose you favourite kind of MX switch as well!!

I'm looking for reviews on youtube atm, their price should be enough to think that these keyboards are great.


Yeh they are great. Only differences between my WASD and Filco:
WASD has a slightly larger case
WASD doesnt have rubber on the extended feet (I don't use them anyway)
WASD has nicer LEDs (I have tape over my filco's because they are so bright and annoying)

Imo get laser etched rather than engraved. You can only see the engraved in certain lighting.
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