On May 31 2015 09:34 micronesia wrote:
If I get the Antec TrueQuiet for the back, and the Nexus Basic for the front, do I still need to worry about fan speed control? I have no idea if that is available on my mobo for the case fans.

Antec came; do I put the lever to the slow or fast setting?

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

June 06 2015 06:03 GMT

#10882

Try out fast. Fast should already be a bit slower than the stock fan.

micronesia

United States24701 Posts

June 06 2015 15:49 GMT

#10883

On June 06 2015 15:03 Myrmidon wrote:
Try out fast. Fast should already be a bit slower than the stock fan.

1) Okay, I put in the rear fan on fast. The small power connector that I was using for the old fan didn't work, but when I used a 'large' power connector (the one with the bigger, more spread out pins) the fan worked fine. Is that ok?

2) I put in the front fan also, although I couldn't get the included rubber 'screws' to work with my case so I just used the metal screws from the previous fan. That is okay, save for generating slightly more noise, right?

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

June 06 2015 19:41 GMT

#10884

1. The smaller 3-pin connection to the motherboard allows you to measure the fan speed and possibly control it, but if you're fine as it is now, the 4-pin connection with the larger pins straight to the power supply works 100% fine.

2. Yes, just slightly more noise maybe. Theoretically the rubber may make for less impact of vibrations on something which technically might be slightly better? It's okay, anyway.

micronesia

United States24701 Posts

June 07 2015 01:14 GMT

#10885

Thanks Myrmidon.

What does it mean if when you go to 'my computer,' often one of your hard drives needs a few seconds to 'load' before you can access it? It happens to both of my big hard drives frequently. Sometimes the "X free of 2.72 TB" statement will be wrong for a little while until it updates. I also notice increased noise from the computer for 20-30 seconds which seems to coincide with the problem.

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

June 07 2015 04:49 GMT

#10886

Hard drives tend to spin down after idling for long enough to save on power (and potentially wear, but frequent cycling on/off is probably worse for it than just spinning all the time). If they ain't spinning, you can't get your data, so the system actually has to wait for the damn thing to spin up and do its thing. I know, it's 2015 and we're still waiting on little motors to get at our data.

The operating system can tell a drive to go spin down (can be controlled somewhat; see power management and hard drive settings), but the firmware on the drive itself can also just decide that it should on its own.

Technically you can force a hard drive to not spin down by running a background process that gives it something to do so it doesn't idle out, say writing a small amount of junk data every once in a while. But the behavior you see is the intended one—unless it's taking a really long time, which is one of many possible indications of a drive starting to die.

micronesia

United States24701 Posts

June 07 2015 14:56 GMT

#10887

Maybe it's unrelated but, now my computer is pretty quiet (save for general fan hum) and then suddenly it gets noisier for 20-30 seconds making a bunch of noises, like it's trying to load software or something. I can't tell where the noise is coming from. It sounds like when you clicked to open software on an older computer and you would get all this processing noise that disappears once the software finishes loading...

Cyro

United Kingdom20300 Posts

June 07 2015 15:03 GMT

#10888

That sounds very HDD-like to me

try this maybe
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xM(Z

Romania5281 Posts

June 07 2015 15:08 GMT

#10889

it's what Myrmidon said.
your HDD enters in stby mode. when you try and access a file from it, it will start again and make that noise you hear. this cycle will repeat every 15 - 20? min depending on your power plan settings.
there are also tasks scheduled in windows that automatically start at certain hours/days. those would also make your hhd work.

micronesia

United States24701 Posts

June 07 2015 15:57 GMT

#10890

Yeah I think you guys are right. Annoyingly my winamp tends to hangup every so often due to this effect.

Cyro

United Kingdom20300 Posts

June 07 2015 16:01 GMT

#10891

On June 08 2015 00:57 micronesia wrote:
Yeah I think you guys are right. Annoyingly my winamp tends to hangup every so often due to this effect.

Put your music on SSD (or find some way to load it into RAM)

micronesia

United States24701 Posts

June 07 2015 16:03 GMT

#10892

I can't fit my music on an SSD lol

BTW also noticed a few times over the past few days a stutter! When listening to music or watching a movie it's like it skips for a fraction of a second :<

edit: Okay if I only use mp3s I can fit my music :p

Cyro

United Kingdom20300 Posts

June 07 2015 16:08 GMT

#10893

I don't have much issue TBH, the hard drive spin up occasionally happens and hangs my program for 5-10 seconds but after that, i don't have noticeable stuttering/delays. I set it in that power setting to not spin down for an hour, though.

micronesia

United States24701 Posts

June 07 2015 16:17 GMT

#10894

I previously had it set (by default apparently) to never turn off the hard disk, actually.

Cyro

United Kingdom20300 Posts

June 07 2015 16:28 GMT

#10895

It might be that way in the high performance power plan, but it's better to use the balanced power plan for idle power consumption and cpu/etc lifespan

felisconcolori

United States6168 Posts

June 07 2015 18:21 GMT

#10896

So, I've got the "Get Windows 10!" icon now on my Surface Pro 3. I'm guessing when I get back to my desktop, it'll show up there as well.

Anyone planning to be the guinnea pig and go with the first roll out, or is it better to wait for a few months and see how messed up the process is?

I'm thinking of transitioning over pretty quickly with the Surface (it's a Microsoft product, so hardware should have no problems at least) and then waiting a bit for my Win 7 desktop.

So the simple question is... When should I look at getting on the Win10 hype train?

Cyro

United Kingdom20300 Posts

June 07 2015 19:26 GMT

#10897

So, I've got the "Get Windows 10!" icon now on my Surface Pro 3. I'm guessing when I get back to my desktop, it'll show up there as well.

Not neccesarily, they only give it to X amount of people at a time. I didn't get it yet, though other system in my house did and several friends

Anyone planning to be the guinnea pig and go with the first roll out, or is it better to wait for a few months and see how messed up the process is?

So the simple question is... When should I look at getting on the Win10 hype train?

I think it's worth reserving copy - if that doesn't force you to instant-upgrade. I don't think it does. After that, you could wait about 2 weeks to 3 months - but it's probably worth upgrading very fast though.

dx12 games will be coming soon. There should be some hitting holiday this year at the latest - Ashes of the Singularity is apparently going into alpha around next week using vulkan/dx12

It's unlikely to be a hard requirement on popular games - but it might be on some games, and it should be a significant benefit quite quickly.

Craton

United States17251 Posts

June 07 2015 19:59 GMT

#10898

I might consider dual booting W10 if that's an option with the upgrade.

Deleuze

United Kingdom2102 Posts

June 07 2015 20:51 GMT

#10899

Hello - I've just run MemTest86 on a Sony laptop that's a few years old.

How many errors are bad - test has picked up 126?

Gonna get some new ram I guess.

Cyro

United Kingdom20300 Posts

June 07 2015 20:52 GMT

#10900

On June 08 2015 05:51 Deleuze wrote:
Hello - I've just run MemTest86 on a Sony laptop that's a few years old.

How many errors are bad - test has picked up 126?

Gonna get some new ram I guess.

Any at all are bad