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Kwon
Profile Joined March 2011
Brunei Darussalam41 Posts
April 23 2011 09:57 GMT
#41
Kaspersky! MSE is bad imo. I used it before, and I had to format my PC because of the hundredths of virus's that it didn't detect :l
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
April 23 2011 10:31 GMT
#42
^ How did you get hundreds of viruses? Just because you have an AV doesn't mean you should be proning it up and getting loads of sketchy torrents. And what's to say Kaspersky would have caught them? Did you actually go back and download the sketchy stuff again to test? that's also not to mention that maybe another program was involved (ie the reason you don't have viruses now, besides different behavior or the 'one' that got away and led to a 'hundredths' of newer viruses to stream in, is maybe because of a Windows update, or you MalwareBytes, or your firewall got updated, etc).

It's kind of hard to judge what's a good AV or not. It kind of irks me when people say an AV is bad 'because I had a bunch of viruses'. The best AV won't stop every virus, and you need to update the definitions daily, if not hourly, as well as have peerblock, a firewall, and browser safety. There's a million reasons why you could've gotten a virus - you could've simply downloaded a file or installed a CD with something bad, so that your AV isn't scanning for it (ie you let it walk in), you could've not updated your definitions, and to say your system is good now could be because of a million reasons (your firewall is what's being good, windows updates, etc). When new viruses come out, no AV will stop it, so you just need to have an AV that updates regularly (which most do) and not be unlucky to catch it before you have the definitions for it.

First, make sure the AV doesn't take up too much resources, some AV is worse than actually having a virus (norton, mcafee cough cough). You also should have multiple safety suites -firewall, peerblock, AV, malware scanner, windows updates, and smart computer use. You also shouldn't disable any features despite wanting to save PC resources, and put yourself at risk when you do so. Obviously everyone is going to disable parts of it, so you need to scan often and scan everything you download, and be smart about it and how you browse and use.

It just really irks me that you'd post "it's bad I had to format my PC'. That could be million reasons, most probably your fault - be more descriptive please. Now I have no idea which AV to really use, I just know MSE and Avast are both really good and free, and that Windows Firewall and Malwarebytes are good too. You should have a peerblock if you download torrents, and be smart how you use your PC. You also can't realyl predict which one is the best, as it only takes a single virus to screw everything up,w hich just means they didn't update fast enough before your dumbass caught something. Just have *a* antivirus, a firewall, and scanner, and be judicious in your usage. I would recommend MSE or Avast since they are what most people use, but Kaspersky is great too. There are a lot of good ones. Just have one, and then be smart.

I'd love it if someone could actually explain which is best, but how you use your PC should be first, not your AV.
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cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
April 23 2011 14:17 GMT
#43
No doubt Microsoft Security Essentials, it is free and doesn't clog up the computer.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kwon
Profile Joined March 2011
Brunei Darussalam41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 15:28:54
April 23 2011 14:55 GMT
#44
@Belial88 When I scanned with MSE, it didn't detect any viruses.
Also, the virus prevents me from turning on the windows security and preventing me from doing a system restore. So I had no choice but to format.
But the virus is kinda the shop's fault maybe now that I think of it, when I purchase my desktop, pirated stuff are already installed on it. Don't ask why, its common in my country :l
And I take back what I said about MSE, wasn't really thinking earlier. and I'm hurt that you called me a dumbass, I know how to take care of my PC, I was just not lucky at that time :<
JetGillLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia43 Posts
April 23 2011 15:03 GMT
#45
Nod32 is good apparently.. Just be careful.
henbobble
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
England51 Posts
April 23 2011 15:16 GMT
#46
I use Kaspersky and havent got a virus for the 3 or so years i have used it, i would recommend it greatly
celious
Profile Joined September 2009
United States195 Posts
April 23 2011 15:19 GMT
#47
NOD32 is the best no doubt its light and has one of the best detection rates, this is not true for avast and Microsoft Security Essentials.
eight.BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States240 Posts
April 23 2011 15:21 GMT
#48
On April 24 2011 00:03 JetGillLee wrote:
Nod32 is good apparently.. Just be careful.

eset nod32 is insane, i tried it for a while and it was good. trying to uninstall it was sure a fight though.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
April 23 2011 15:52 GMT
#49
I personally use AVG, but the best protection is seriously to just be careful (+ noscript if need be) on the internet.
:)
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
April 23 2011 23:07 GMT
#50
@Belial88 When I scanned with MSE, it didn't detect any viruses.
Also, the virus prevents me from turning on the windows security and preventing me from doing a system restore. So I had no choice but to format.
But the virus is kinda the shop's fault maybe now that I think of it, when I purchase my desktop, pirated stuff are already installed on it. Don't ask why, its common in my country :l
And I take back what I said about MSE, wasn't really thinking earlier. and I'm hurt that you called me a dumbass, I know how to take care of my PC, I was just not lucky at that time :<


Sorry, just got a little heated. I don't think that at all, I was moreso saying that about anyone who caught a virus like that

I heard AVG was pretty bad. As long as you have one I think you're pretty good though, all they do is lower the chance of getting a virus in the rare chance you get one because you're doing something sketchy.
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UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
April 23 2011 23:17 GMT
#51
doesn't matter what anti virus you get, all of them are pretty much the same. just make sure u have malwarebytes.
i be that pretty motherfucker
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 23:48:09
April 23 2011 23:44 GMT
#52
Doesn't MSE collect and send a lot of information of your computer activities, what you surf on the internet and what you download to better help Microsoft improve the efficiency of the program? It is required it you want to keep using MSE. I remember the ToS saying something like that. Shouldn't pirates be concerned?
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
April 24 2011 13:08 GMT
#53

doesn't matter what anti virus you get, all of them are pretty much the same. just make sure u have malwarebytes.


I don't like how malwarebytes doesn't do autoscans.

So I have a quick question since I used Avast and willing to try something different (had PC issues 'around' the time I used it, I don't think it was the problem but now that I reinstalled windows I'm willing to try something else). I have pirated/activated w7, how do I use MSE? Or is there no issue with using MSE with pirated?
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Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
April 24 2011 14:17 GMT
#54
On April 24 2011 22:08 Belial88 wrote:
Show nested quote +

doesn't matter what anti virus you get, all of them are pretty much the same. just make sure u have malwarebytes.


I don't like how malwarebytes doesn't do autoscans.

So I have a quick question since I used Avast and willing to try something different (had PC issues 'around' the time I used it, I don't think it was the problem but now that I reinstalled windows I'm willing to try something else). I have pirated/activated w7, how do I use MSE? Or is there no issue with using MSE with pirated?


ahem, my *friend* has a pirated/activated windows 7, and he just downloaded it straight from the microsoft website. works/updates fine i guess it might depend on the loader youve got though
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Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
April 24 2011 14:27 GMT
#55
i think it had a snowboarder on it, i dont recall.
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Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
April 24 2011 14:34 GMT
#56
it works with daz's loader
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schreddertt
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 14:35:31
April 24 2011 14:34 GMT
#57
Kaspersky is certainly the way to go if you want to be totally safe. I used it before I switched to MSE because it takes a lot of resources and I sometimes experienced lag while updating but it detected more stuff than MSE does. For example MSE never detects anything in MSN/ICQ messages, even though I know that there is something fishy about links from russian users that want to add me while Kaspersky instantly blocked that shit and warned me about it. But I guess if you are careful MSE is the way to go.

Oh, I also used G-Data once, super safe but resource hungry like hell.
arctia
Profile Joined December 2010
61 Posts
April 24 2011 16:22 GMT
#58
MSE - overall decent. Low resource, completely easy to use. But not the best detection rate.
Avast and Avira - both amazing, better detection rate than MSE, but overall more resource used
NOD32 - the paid version is really really good, not sure about the free/trial
Kaspersky - detects everything, more likely to run into false positives. Way too much resource usage though, and somewhat intrusive
Norton - the newest version is really good in terms of protection. But it installs itself in so many parts of your system, it's an absolute pain to uninstall
Comodo - it will block EVERYTHING. Takes a lot of customization to get it the way you want

If you ask me, MSE + Common sense is the way to go. After three years, I finally managed to install common sense for my parents. No more problems.
OddBone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States25 Posts
April 24 2011 17:08 GMT
#59
Do not use AVG, its flat out terrible. If the virus puts the malaware in a rootkit/locked file, it will not scan or quarintine it.

Use Microsoft Secuirety Essentials, has a 98% detection rate.

AVAST! is very good too.

Both free.
Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
April 24 2011 17:21 GMT
#60
Kaspersky is hands down the second best, the best is using your brain and not downloading sketchy shit.
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