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DG.Zeya
Profile Joined January 2012
United States39 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 22:50:23
June 03 2012 22:49 GMT
#1301
Thanks Demicore, the Abyssus isn't Mac compatible, so that won't work, but I'll check out those other two. I've never heard to the Zowie Mico, but you never know.

Also, one more question-- has anyone used a Razer Salmosa? I stumbled upon it today, and it looks kinda nice. Razer doesn't sell them anymore, but I could probably find one on Ebay or Amazon. I'm not sure if it will work with a mac though....
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
June 04 2012 02:56 GMT
#1302
On June 04 2012 05:24 Demicore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 05:20 DG.Zeya wrote:
Hello TL, ...


Razer Abyssus, Steelseries Kinzu V2 Pro, Zowie Mico.



how is kinzu v2 pro?
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
June 04 2012 07:14 GMT
#1303
Does anyone have experience modifying a mouse to make it heavier? I have a mouse of 6~ years that I really love, but it's quite light and I'm interested in trying out something with more weight to it. Specifically I want to uniformly add weight so as to keep the current balance as well as keep all modifications internal.
i wear a kitten scarf
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 04 2012 07:28 GMT
#1304
I'm more of a claw/fingertip holder myself, but the DA feels absolutely amazing in the hand (even though mine is a bit too small for it). Shame that it's supposed to be a palm mouse and I generally can't get as much accuracy palming it personally, but it still feels amazing and moves quite well, just wanted to share love the DeathAdder :3

Are there any mice like it (i.e. shaped for righties instead of ambidextrous, ambidextrous mice now feel really weird lol) but smaller I guess? Thanks in advance. Definitely won't be looking to switch for a while, though, got it only half a year ago.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
June 04 2012 07:38 GMT
#1305
On June 04 2012 16:14 Imbajoe wrote:
Does anyone have experience modifying a mouse to make it heavier? I have a mouse of 6~ years that I really love, but it's quite light and I'm interested in trying out something with more weight to it. Specifically I want to uniformly add weight so as to keep the current balance as well as keep all modifications internal.


It depends entirely on the mouse, which one is it?
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
June 04 2012 08:26 GMT
#1306
On June 04 2012 16:38 DYEAlabaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 16:14 Imbajoe wrote:
Does anyone have experience modifying a mouse to make it heavier? I have a mouse of 6~ years that I really love, but it's quite light and I'm interested in trying out something with more weight to it. Specifically I want to uniformly add weight so as to keep the current balance as well as keep all modifications internal.


It depends entirely on the mouse, which one is it?


This is what I use
Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000
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xRaptor12
Profile Joined June 2012
1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 04:00:20
June 05 2012 01:42 GMT
#1307
Hey guys, i play sc2 although IM not too great (gold) and i need a mouse. ive been using a trashy, old, came with an old pc mouse but i WanT to upgrade, but am pretty confused with everything.



1. What'S your grip style?
palm/fingertip
2. What'S your sensitivity?
Always very high although i have Bad dpi on my current mouse. ive played with a few higher dpi ones and loved them.
3. What'S your maximum budget?
Max 120$
4. Do you WanT additional buttons?
do PrO rts/sc2 players use them? if so id Love to give them a shot
5. What games do you play?
Only sc2.
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
dont want it
7. Other relevant information:
seems like wired is the Way to go, oh and has to be mac compatible, i think i want a bigger mouse
thans guys
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 05 2012 02:04 GMT
#1308
In case you don't know what angle snapping is (i.e. "not too sure" meaning you're unsure about what it is, versus not too sure meaning you're not sure whether you care), it's also known as "mouse prediction", I think. Basically it's when, for example, you open up a paint file, and you try to draw vertical and horizontal lines, and they come out looking strangely straight at certain parts--that's the mouse snapping your movements to a straight line. Usually this is undesirable for gaming (but especially FPS games iirc) because the movement of the mouse won't be true to your actual hand movement. You can just google it, gives you a lot of info. ^^ good luck with your search
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
exousia_7
Profile Joined December 2011
Taiwan215 Posts
June 05 2012 11:33 GMT
#1309
Tt eSports recently upgraded the Black Element into Black Element Cyclone Edition. What do you guys think of it? Personally, my instant reaction was "WTF is this sh*t?" when I saw it. I wouldn't be surprised if they attached fans on their headsets next.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
June 05 2012 12:20 GMT
#1310
I'm looking to upgrade my mouse (Diamondback 3G) and am a bit overwhelmed by the options. I'm currently interested in the Steelseries Sensei (or Xai), as the shape and size looks like it will be ideal; just a little bit wider and higher than my Diamondback.

The rubberized Razer coating on this mouse has worn off in patches and makes the mouse look (and feel) permanently dirty. My other issue is that the mouse is a bit too narrow for my hand.

One thing I'd like to get some feedback on is the finish of the Sensei. I've seen reviewers commenting that the silver paint looks like it will wear off and end up looking nasty, which is one of my main issues with my current mouse. If this is the case, then I'd probably avoid it. What about the Sensei RAW? The glossy one looks like it would be a bit tricky to keep smudge free (that kind of thing does bother me as I try to keep my setup as clean as possible at all times) and I'm worried that the rubberized one may end up like my Razer mouse?

So I guess my question is more open to feedback from people who have any mouse with a rubberized finish, not necessarily just the SS Sensei, although any opinions on that specific mouse would be welcome. (I'm also wondering if Steelseries have improved their drivers/software to make it a bit easier to use, but this isn't my main concern)

As I haven't totally settled on a mouse yet, I'll fill out the questionnaire here too:

+ Show Spoiler [The Questionnaire] +
1. What's your grip style?
fingertip/claw hybrid
2. What's your sensitivity?
I'd say medium-high. However, I've been bringing it down steadily in FPS games just to get a bit more used to that.
3. What's your maximum budget?
Max £80 (flexible)
4. Do you want additional buttons?
I would prefer to have the four side buttons (two on each side) that I'm now used to on the Diamondback 3G. Any more would be a bonus. At minimum, I would settle for just 2 on the left side, if everything else on the mouse was perfect for me.
5. What games do you play?
A bit of everything, with most emphasis on RTS and FPS.
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
I'd rather avoid it, if possible.
7. Other relevant information:
I have quite large hands, but I prefer a fingertip/claw grip, so there's some wiggle-room on mouse size. As an example, however, I find the Diamondback 3g, that I currently use, to be a tiny bit too narrow.

I'm basically looking for a simple, reliable mouse that will allow me to play most genres of game comfortably, with no conflicts in setting up extra buttons on occasion. I don't really care about lights or flashy colours.
TwilightRain
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany351 Posts
June 06 2012 06:51 GMT
#1311
I'm going to try modding my used Deathadder to make it as light as possible: deleting side-buttons, unsoldering side-switches, drilling holes into the casing where I can. Will probably post some pictures soon.
aklambda
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria48 Posts
June 06 2012 08:27 GMT
#1312
My mouse just broke (Razer Naga which was an old used mouse from a friend) and I have to decide between the Deathadder and the G400. My problem is that I really like the grip I had on the Naga (even though it has so much side buttons) because I use my thumb and ring finger to hold the mouse on each side while simultaniously touching the mouse bad with them. I'd still call this palm girp since my palm rests on the mouse and my index and middle finger are in no way claw shaped.

The problem I see with the G400, even though it is cheaper, seems to be more robust and not suffer from the sudden death of razer products, is that the thumb has its own place to rest. Doing this however, I cannot touch the mouse pad with it and it kind of screws up my grip. It might be nothing though and I actually like it more.

Unfortunately, I have no way to test either mouse (have to order them online) since there is no store in my area that offers either. Should I order the G400 and give it a try or rather use the Razer Deathadder which I suppose is very similar to the Razer Naga? Thanks!!
exousia_7
Profile Joined December 2011
Taiwan215 Posts
June 07 2012 03:55 GMT
#1313
I've used DA before and I think it's good. Too bad I'm not a palm gripper so I sold it for a CM Storm Spawn. The DA is a good quality palm grip mouse from Razer. I have never ise Logitech gaming mice before so I can't say anything regarding the G400. As for DA I'd recommend it if you are a palm gripper.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 07 2012 06:23 GMT
#1314
The DA is an awesome palm grip mouse and if your hands are big enough you can even fingertip grip it. It has a pretty awesome sensor too.

I'd still be using mine if I didn't like the Imperator's grip better. (I believe the Imperator has the same grip as the G400)
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-08 08:34:17
June 08 2012 08:31 GMT
#1315
I really want to get the Zowie Mico, because it is similar in size to my current mouse, a Lexma M540 Laser. But, everywhere is sold out.
My current mouse (link to site): Lexma M540 Laser mouse (manufacturers site)

I don't like Razer mice for only opne reason, in fact I don't like a lot of mice that say they are OK for fingertip grip, as I find nearly all of them are fairly long in size, as they try to design the mouse to also work for claw and palm, and as such I find the mouse in my palm when I don't want to palm grip it. the Mico seems to me to be the only one I can find that actually is small, light, and designed specifically and only for fingertip grip.

I've tried Razer (can't recall model) and TT esports black. The ttesports was enormous (palm/claw grip) and heavy. I hated it and I gave it to a friend after using it for a day. I've purchased and tossed at least 5 mice. Its getting expensive experimenting.

Problem, everywher for the Mico in Canada is sold out of anything but pink in colour,. and I am seriously considering buying it and painting it if I have to.

So, I am looking for a valid alternative to the Mico - a nice small mouse for fingertip grip.

1. What'S your grip style?
Fingertip
2. What's your sensitivity?
on the higher side of average, don't know exact number because I don't know what dps my Lexma M540 Laser is at.
3. What's your maximum budget?
unlimited for a quality product.
4. Do you Want additional buttons?
no. Left, Right, and 3rd on scroll wheel.
5. What games do you play?
RTS - SC2 primarily. other games for recreation. No FPS.
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
unknown.
7. Other relevant information:
Must be wired, prefer smaller lighter mouse for fingertip grip

PLEASE! OPTIONS! Save my mouse hand!

Thanks!
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
June 08 2012 11:03 GMT
#1316
Why don't you just order the mico online from the zowie website? I have a mico pink with celeritas pink for LAN events, they look much cooler if you have them together rather than having only a pink mico with a black keyboard.
JPP
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland104 Posts
June 08 2012 13:37 GMT
#1317
@Grimmyman123
You could also try the G9x without either of the grips.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
June 08 2012 13:49 GMT
#1318
I just got the Zowie mico, and wow, it's really damned good! Probably the best mouse i've used in a long time. Easily beats any of the razer/steelseries stuff i've tried. It's surprisingly comfortable despite being so small, and doesn't have any extra (useless, imo, that clutter up the beauty of the mouse) buttons or anything.

Actually, it reminds me a lot of the logitech mini optical, or whatever the name was.

For the record, the Razer/SteelSeries mice i've tried are as follows:

Razer:

Naga
Abyssus
Deathadder
Spectre

SteelSeries:

Xai
Kana
Kinzu

So outside of those, maybe the Sensei/Lachesis/Imperator all blow the Mico out of the water for all I know, but yeah, Mico is amazing.

Maybe my hands are on the smaller side so it's easier for me to handle, I'm not sure, it's obviously not for everyone but to me it's perfect. Oh, and it also came in the mail with two sticks of Danish Jenka gum. Thank you, zowie!
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
June 08 2012 15:33 GMT
#1319
On June 08 2012 22:49 marttorn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I just got the Zowie mico, and wow, it's really damned good! Probably the best mouse i've used in a long time. Easily beats any of the razer/steelseries stuff i've tried. It's surprisingly comfortable despite being so small, and doesn't have any extra (useless, imo, that clutter up the beauty of the mouse) buttons or anything.

Actually, it reminds me a lot of the logitech mini optical, or whatever the name was.

For the record, the Razer/SteelSeries mice i've tried are as follows:

Razer:

Naga
Abyssus
Deathadder
Spectre

SteelSeries:

Xai
Kana
Kinzu

So outside of those, maybe the Sensei/Lachesis/Imperator all blow the Mico out of the water for all I know, but yeah, Mico is amazing.

Maybe my hands are on the smaller side so it's easier for me to handle, I'm not sure, it's obviously not for everyone but to me it's perfect. Oh, and it also came in the mail with two sticks of Danish Jenka gum. Thank you, zowie!

That's because it is almost an exact copy of the mini optical. Can you confirm for us that you do or don't have the pixel jump bug that was present in some of the MiCO's when they first came out? This link should help if you've unfamiliar with what I'm talking about.

Also I should just note to anyone who's looking for a new mouse that BST's mouse (MX300 shape) and the new Razer Taipan (Kana sized, or sooorta Krait sized? probably PTE but specs are weird) should be released in the next few months (Ouroboros idk when, photos were leaked, RAT copy basically) so keep your eyes peeled for these. I'll be getting BST's mouse when it is released, though there should be plenty of benchmarks and reviews up before I get mine from the Beta Testers.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
June 08 2012 19:58 GMT
#1320
On June 09 2012 00:33 wo1fwood wrote:
Also I should just note to anyone who's looking for a new mouse that BST's mouse (MX300 shape) and the new Razer Taipan (Kana sized, or sooorta Krait sized? probably PTE but specs are weird) should be released in the next few months (Ouroboros idk when, photos were leaked, RAT copy basically) so keep your eyes peeled for these. I'll be getting BST's mouse when it is released, though there should be plenty of benchmarks and reviews up before I get mine from the Beta Testers.

Also the Sensei RAW is coming out this month, isn't that worth considering? I for one am anxious to pick up a used one from a disillusioned user later this year
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