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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-17 12:39:55
July 17 2015 12:39 GMT
#4321
On May 30 2015 06:13 Cyro wrote:
I know I don't dislike it, it's just different.

after a few mins, it feels good. For a claw grip, the thumb reaches just far enough to get past the ridge comfortably. For fingertip, you can get leverage on or underneath the center of mass, which is nice.

I'm just noticing the LOD hours later, it's a touch low for my liking. I accidentally partially stopped tracking a few times when re-adjusting mouse

+ Show Spoiler +



too low sens? ;p


feels lighter than it is because of the shape of the mouse and where grip can be. The weight difference between g303 and g402 isn't that huge but the feel is completely different, with g402 grip a lot more of my force was going downwards into the desk (enough to shake it when making sharp fast movements) while with g303 i'm almost lifting it off the desk because i have good leverage under the center of mass (which is in a great place due to way the front of the mouse is thin and not tall)

--------------------

just got perfect video (60fps handcam) to show why i prefer moderately high LOD, and not the super low LOD that some companies seem to be going for.



First few seconds there^ my movement jerked the mouse off the ground a tiny bit. Tracking stopped and cursor fell short of where it was supposed to go


edit: day 2-3~ i really like this mouse, it would be a completely different mouse if they removed the ridge on the sides. I don't think it would be a straight improvement at all, that bump gives you a surprising amount of control with both fingertip and claw. This is not a palm grip mouse, which isn't a bad thing.


I don't really like it. The shape is so weird.

YOU ARE A GOD AT OSU!

What dpi are you using atm?
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
July 20 2015 22:03 GMT
#4322
My current mouse (gigabyte m6800) shows problem with the sensor, so when I move to fast it just stays put on the same place.

1. What's your grip style?
palm

2. What's your sensitivity?
800dpi

3. What's your maximum budget?
~30-40 euro

4. Do you want additional buttons?
no

5. What games do you play?
reflex (quake like)
csgo

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Yes

7. Other relevant information:
aslong as the sensor is good, thats all I care about.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 05:26:40
July 21 2015 05:20 GMT
#4323
I don't really like it. The shape is so weird.

YOU ARE A GOD AT OSU!

What dpi are you using atm?


For non-FPS, it doesn't work for me at all without thumb on or further up the mouse than where the ridge is. I see some people trying to fingertip grip with thumb on the glassy part of the butt and that seems terrible, i have good experiences with thumb further up the mouse though.

I use ~500-1000dpi for 1920x1080 1:1. + Show Spoiler +
Not playing much at the moment though because i seem to have done some somewhat significant damage to my right hand from using a PC for 50 hours a week every week for like years as well as bad grip and squeezing pen when playing w/ graphics tablet~ that was definitely the trigger, but the constant mouse usage (sometimes with bad posture) probably didn't help at all
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
July 21 2015 06:19 GMT
#4324
On July 21 2015 14:20 Cyro wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Not playing much at the moment though because i seem to have done some somewhat significant damage to my right hand from using a PC for 50 hours a week every week for like years as well as bad grip and squeezing pen when playing w/ graphics tablet~ that was definitely the trigger, but the constant mouse usage (sometimes with bad posture) probably didn't help at all

+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the club, Cyro!

"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Bastinian
Profile Joined October 2014
Serbia177 Posts
July 21 2015 21:33 GMT
#4325
I bought Razer Taipan 5 months ago for Starcraft, and its freaking good! Its ambidextrous so it fits both left and right handed people. Also its design is kinda made for RTS games, because its for claw grip. And I saw pro gamers use it. I think Jaedong uses it...
Tryhard, road to pro-gamer! :) | twitter.com/bastiniansc2 | twitch.tv/bastinian |
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 22:21:50
July 21 2015 22:21 GMT
#4326
Sensor is not top level though. That's surprisingly hit and miss with expensive mice because most of the market does not know any better or care about it. Doesn't mean that you can't play well with it - but it's a relative handicap
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Daedie
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium160 Posts
July 22 2015 16:12 GMT
#4327
Hi. I'm thinking about getting a replacement for my Razer Lachesis of 6 years old because one of the buttons has started to respond poorly and I kinda rely on it. In the process I'm hoping to improve the sensor and the button layout as well.

1. What's your grip style?
Fingertip

2. What's your sensitivity?
1000 dpi

3. What's your maximum budget?
range: 50 - 150 euro

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Yes. My current mouse has 7 (9 actually, but 2 for lefties so unused). I'd like to keep that. right, mid, left. 2 extra on top. 2 thumb buttons. The buttons are probably a higher priority than the sensor quality for me, but I'm hoping to get both.

5. What games do you play?
Heroes of the Storm
Final Fantasy XIV
Starcraft 2 sometime in the future

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
Probably yes

7. Other relevant information:
To me the perfect mouse would probably be the imperator with a top level sensor. Due to adjustable thumb buttons and good form factor for me personally.
I like turtles
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 22 2015 18:58 GMT
#4328
I warmly recommend the Logitech G502 Proteus Core. Probably the best value for a high end gaming mouse. I didn't need any adaptation time at all from my G9x.
I don't know about the extra buttons though, they're there, but it's not in my habits to use those :D (I use a lot of different mice at the same time, so I have to restrain myself to the 3 common buttons). They seem well placed to me.
Daedie
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium160 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-22 19:04:12
July 22 2015 19:03 GMT
#4329
On July 23 2015 03:58 ZenithM wrote:
I warmly recommend the Logitech G502 Proteus Core. Probably the best value for a high end gaming mouse. I didn't need any adaptation time at all from my G9x.
I don't know about the extra buttons though, they're there, but it's not in my habits to use those :D (I use a lot of different mice at the same time, so I have to restrain myself to the 3 common buttons). They seem well placed to me.


I have come across that one and it did indeed catch my interest. My biggest concern is the potentially inconvenient middle mouse button all Logitech mice seem to have. I've also found the Roccat Kone Pure Military which I feel (can only tell from pictures) might suit my needs as well. I hope I can find an opportunity to try them out. Any other suggestions along these lines are very welcome.

Another question I have about this. How is adapting from a twin eye laser sensor to an optical one? I have heard that some people have a lot of trouble doing it due to being used to the shortcomings. I don't think my muscle memory is on that level though.
I like turtles
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
July 22 2015 23:32 GMT
#4330
My biggest concern is the potentially inconvenient middle mouse button all Logitech mice seem to have


Not sure what you mean exactly, the DPI switch button? It should be in a good place, it doesn't have to do anything (configurable) and i don't think you'd press it accidentally.

How is adapting from a twin eye laser sensor to an optical one? I have heard that some people have a lot of trouble doing it due to being used to the shortcomings


It should only be better. I mean, it shouldn't be hard to adjust - your skill ceiling and rate of improvement when practicing mouse control would just increase.

I do prefer the g303 over the 402/502 shell just because the g303 is already kinda medium sized, the 502 is a heavy mouse.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Daedie
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium160 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 05:50:16
July 23 2015 05:48 GMT
#4331
On July 23 2015 08:32 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
My biggest concern is the potentially inconvenient middle mouse button all Logitech mice seem to have


Not sure what you mean exactly, the DPI switch button? It should be in a good place, it doesn't have to do anything (configurable) and i don't think you'd press it accidentally.


I mean the scroll wheel, which is also pressable. I tend to scroll it while pressing it on most logitech gaming mice I've tried and it seems to be a common problem. I have a g400 lying around and the biggest reason not to use it was the scroll wheel button as well as the DPI switch buttons being too small (I remap them for use in games). I read in a review that the g502 has this too.

I've decided to give the Roccat a try first. Have been reading into it and it seems to fit my needs perfectly regarding features, shape (it's geared towards fingertipping) and sensor. If I don't like it I will probably look into the logitechs further, cause they seem pretty close as well.
I like turtles
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 10:40:56
July 23 2015 10:38 GMT
#4332
Can anyone tell me if there are any new mouses worth considering? My Deathadder 2013 just died so I'm getting a refund, thank god it's almost 2 years. So I'm looking to buy a new one, I've had Razer Deathadder 2011 and Razer Diamondback before. I prefer the mouse to have at least 5 buttons.
1. What's your grip style?
Palm

2. What's your sensitivity?
3500dpi, 800 when cs:go

3. What's your maximum budget?
range: 30 - 100 euro

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Yes. At least 5

5. What games do you play?
Dota 2
CS:GO
other random games

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
yes absolutely. Accuracy > all
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 21:57:12
July 23 2015 16:52 GMT
#4333
I mean the scroll wheel, which is also pressable


I thought most mice did that, the g303 one did not strike me as loose spin. g402 scroll wheel click is awful but g502 one is completely different, have not tried it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ajtg123
Profile Joined July 2015
4 Posts
July 23 2015 19:38 GMT
#4334
i want to buy a new gaming mouse and these are the three mice that i have for the same price-g9x , g402 and CM Mizar for 40$.please suggest me the better one according to you and please tell why too.does g402 have a sensor as good as g502.please suggest any mouse if you consider some other mouse better for the same price.thanks
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
July 23 2015 21:56 GMT
#4335
g9x and mizar sensor is not good, 402 is quite good.

502 sensor is better than 402 but the 402 is pretty much flawless already, it's not stuff that most people would care about.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
ajtg123
Profile Joined July 2015
4 Posts
July 23 2015 23:38 GMT
#4336
is the logitech g303 good??? it has same sensor as g502 and has better ergonomics i think.please tell your opinions.many say that the sensor of g402 is poor.please reply quickly smile.gif
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
July 24 2015 01:58 GMT
#4337
502 sensor is better than 402 but the 402 is pretty much flawless already


303/502 are best sensor out there. 402 is not quite as good technically, but it's still a very high tier sensor and shouldn't be worse in any noticable way
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 24 2015 02:02 GMT
#4338
I like it. The sensor is pretty sick. I've gotten used to the G303.

Not going to lie though, it took a while as the shape is very strange.
ajtg123
Profile Joined July 2015
4 Posts
July 24 2015 19:35 GMT
#4339
On July 24 2015 11:02 c0ldfusion wrote:
I like it. The sensor is pretty sick. I've gotten used to the G303.

Not going to lie though, it took a while as the shape is very strange.

i read that it has sensor problems where rattling sound is caused because its not aligned properly and that it affects the perfomance.it seems many who bought this had this and that those who didnt have it developed it later

someone please advice me on this
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20321 Posts
July 24 2015 19:52 GMT
#4340
first i've heard of it, but i have not been following forums since like 2-3 months after its release
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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