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TwilightRain
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 19:56:29
June 16 2013 19:47 GMT
#2441
So, according to http://www.roccat.org/ they are going to release an optical version of the Roccat Kone Pure. I tried the usual Kone Pure in a store some time ago and in terms of shape/design it was probably the most comfortable mouse I tried, more so than the Deathadder, even though i generally like light mice. If the sensor performance is up to par, I might consider trying it out despite the weight and my general dislike towards Roccat.

Edit(info from Computex 2013):
Omron switches, 4000 dpi optical sensor, available in 4-8 weeks time (in EU I assume), price : 59 €

NerdUpgrades
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada41 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-16 20:02:50
June 16 2013 20:02 GMT
#2442
I am a person who used a mx518 for about 8 years. I recently decided to try the steelseries sensei.

Not a fan of the ambidextrous mouse mold, the shape is pretty bad compared to the mx518. But I decided to keep trying the mouse. The lights are cool and it is a decently solid mouse.

The real problem came with the mouse clicking. I thought maybe I broke the right mouse button after a week or so of using this mouse. It did not always give a tactile "click" feedback and can be hard to press at times. So I RMA'd the mouse and waited 2 1/2 weeks for one to come back.. So either they sent me the same mouse back with new packaging, or the mouse is a dud.

Could anyone that used the mx518 in the past recommend an upgrade?
TwilightRain
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany351 Posts
June 16 2013 20:33 GMT
#2443
On June 17 2013 05:02 NerdUpgrades wrote:
I am a person who used a mx518 for about 8 years. I recently decided to try the steelseries sensei.

Not a fan of the ambidextrous mouse mold, the shape is pretty bad compared to the mx518. But I decided to keep trying the mouse. The lights are cool and it is a decently solid mouse.

The real problem came with the mouse clicking. I thought maybe I broke the right mouse button after a week or so of using this mouse. It did not always give a tactile "click" feedback and can be hard to press at times. So I RMA'd the mouse and waited 2 1/2 weeks for one to come back.. So either they sent me the same mouse back with new packaging, or the mouse is a dud.

Could anyone that used the mx518 in the past recommend an upgrade?


The Logitech G400s / G400 is the direct successor to the Logitech MX518. Identical shape, better optical sensor. Why give up on something that works.
JDI1
Profile Joined December 2010
United States69 Posts
June 17 2013 03:44 GMT
#2444
On June 17 2013 05:02 NerdUpgrades wrote:
I am a person who used a mx518 for about 8 years. I recently decided to try the steelseries sensei.

Not a fan of the ambidextrous mouse mold, the shape is pretty bad compared to the mx518. But I decided to keep trying the mouse. The lights are cool and it is a decently solid mouse.

The real problem came with the mouse clicking. I thought maybe I broke the right mouse button after a week or so of using this mouse. It did not always give a tactile "click" feedback and can be hard to press at times. So I RMA'd the mouse and waited 2 1/2 weeks for one to come back.. So either they sent me the same mouse back with new packaging, or the mouse is a dud.

Could anyone that used the mx518 in the past recommend an upgrade?


Steelseries mice are garbage all around. Had a couple from Xai to Sensei to Raw, awful buttons, squeaky and loud scroll wheel, awkward shape to adjust to. The Sensei was the first mouse to straight up die on me (dead sensor).

Go with G400s or something, just be careful with the cord, I heard most problems are with the cables, even though my old G400 was fine until I sold it. Don't know what those raging nerds did to break a mouse cord like that.
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
June 17 2013 07:56 GMT
#2445
Does anyone know where I could order Logitech mini optical or Logitech g1? If I can't get these then I'm looking towards the Abyssus or the g100. I'm basically looking for a smaller mouse and those 2 seem ok for me if anyone could give me some input I'd greatly appreciate it!
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 17 2013 09:15 GMT
#2446
I think the Logitech G100s isn't any worse than the G1 it replaces. The Logitech Mini Optical isn't good. It's neat for sentimental reasons as it was used for so long in BW, but the sensor has real problems.

Just go to amazon.com. They have all current products like G100s and Abyssus.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cubbieblue66
Profile Joined June 2011
95 Posts
June 18 2013 02:02 GMT
#2447
1. What's your grip style?
- Palm when browsing the internet, claw when gaming.

2. What's your sensitivity?
- Mid?

3. What's your maximum budget?
- I don't have an exact number for that, but I'm on a pretty small budget. Definitely below $100. Would like to be closer to $50 if there's anything worthwhile in that range.

4. Do you want additional buttons?
- I do like to have a couple extra buttons on the thumb. What kind of monster scrolls all the way up to hit the back button on their browser?

5. What games do you play?
- Starcraft 2 is the only one which I'll need quick movements for (unless the new Civ 5 expansion REALLY changes things.)

6. Do you mind angle snapping?
- I didn't know it was a thing until just now, so probably not.

7. Other relevant information:
- I don't particularly care one way or the other on the wired or wireless debate. I'm currently running with an old MS Intellimouse, but it's always been a felt a bit too large to be truly comfortable. The reason I'm upgrading is that the left click on this damn mouse is adding tons of extra clicks for no apparent reason and I think that's probably a hardware thing rather than a software one.

Thanks!
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
June 18 2013 04:37 GMT
#2448
On June 17 2013 18:15 Ropid wrote:
I think the Logitech G100s isn't any worse than the G1 it replaces. The Logitech Mini Optical isn't good. It's neat for sentimental reasons as it was used for so long in BW, but the sensor has real problems.

Just go to amazon.com. They have all current products like G100s and Abyssus.

I think I might try the Abyssus. Yeah right now my mini optical is having some weird problems where the cursor just flies off like crazy at random times I've been using it for about 4 years or so; it's perfect for my hand.
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
eBinTestO
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland104 Posts
June 18 2013 13:20 GMT
#2449
If the shape is perfect then take a look at the Zowie MiCO. It's identical, and the sensor is decent. Abyssus has a better sensor but it's a different shape.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
June 18 2013 16:05 GMT
#2450
On June 18 2013 22:20 eBinTestO wrote:
If the shape is perfect then take a look at the Zowie MiCO. It's identical, and the sensor is decent. Abyssus has a better sensor but it's a different shape.


It's a killer mouse. My GF just received her's... it's an awesome mouse. Mico doesn't have side buttons though.
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 18 2013 16:08 GMT
#2451
Well, the Mini Optical, the G100s and the Abyssus also don't have side buttons, so no problem there.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 16:35:29
June 18 2013 16:33 GMT
#2452
On June 17 2013 16:56 Sephy90 wrote:
Does anyone know where I could order Logitech mini optical or Logitech g1? If I can't get these then I'm looking towards the Abyssus or the g100. I'm basically looking for a smaller mouse and those 2 seem ok for me if anyone could give me some input I'd greatly appreciate it!
Ebay is your best bet for the G1. I've ordered a few on there and have had no issues. The Mini Optical is waaaay harder (and more expensive) to find new, like G3 levels of tough to find. But the G1 is still readily available if you want one, just order from Korean stores that sell them bulk like K1Shop2010, SnowPrincess2011 or BuykingKorea_Seoul (I used K1Shop three times and was quite satisfied with service) and you should be able to get a legit one for about $30 shipped (also, the shipping is insanely fast from any of these stores. Korean postal service is knows how to move stuff quickly). They've gone up in price a bit because they are out of production now but are still well worth it. The glossy version is easy to find but the matte version is getting more difficult to find and expensive (they're like $45-50 now or so). I'm glad I got my matte G1s a couple years back when they were still just as cheap as glossy. They're amazing mice. I bought extras so I wouldn't be in your situation anytime soon. After using the G1 for nearly 2 years I can't use anything else, they just don't feel right.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Aiobhill
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany283 Posts
June 18 2013 20:57 GMT
#2453
On June 17 2013 05:02 NerdUpgrades wrote:
I am a person who used a mx518 for about 8 years. I recently decided to try the steelseries sensei.

Not a fan of the ambidextrous mouse mold, the shape is pretty bad compared to the mx518. But I decided to keep trying the mouse. The lights are cool and it is a decently solid mouse.

The real problem came with the mouse clicking. I thought maybe I broke the right mouse button after a week or so of using this mouse. It did not always give a tactile "click" feedback and can be hard to press at times. So I RMA'd the mouse and waited 2 1/2 weeks for one to come back.. So either they sent me the same mouse back with new packaging, or the mouse is a dud.

Could anyone that used the mx518 in the past recommend an upgrade?


G400 has been mentioned. Another option is the Imperator 2012. I use it, would reluctantly buy it again, but can't recommend it 100%, so a short list of pros and cons.

I have big hands, use fingertip grip and use high (3200 dpi most of the time) sensitivity. That was the reason to switch from my 518, whose 1600 dpi (I had one from the first batch) was enough on a 1440x900 resolution laptop, but too low on my desktop.

Precision is great, ergonomics are perfect for me. The wheel button is so good that it is the first mouse where I actually use it, the two thumb buttons can be moved and placed perfectly, weight is low similar to the 518.

However the plastic material in the thumb area feels low quality and is way too slick, and now after ~20 months of use the left button acts up and produces the dreaded doubleclicks when pressed only once.

Most likely I will replace it with another Imperator but also consider the G400s and the Kone pure.
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Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 15:34:43
June 19 2013 15:34 GMT
#2454
Logitech just gave me a G100s actually if there's anything about it you want to know/test.
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dthree
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia150 Posts
June 22 2013 13:46 GMT
#2455
Im getting this really weird problem with my newly purchased abyssus where if i swipe my mouse too quickly it will stop moving completely.

I've upgraded from my beloved WMO which never behaved like this. I'm using a puretrak talent as a pad (also have a QCK heavy which causes same problems).
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 22 2013 15:02 GMT
#2456
Are you using very large sweeping motions playing an fps or something, or is this just moving a mouse pointer around on the screen like in SC2? There were a bunch of people getting into the top 3 or winning various QuakeLive tournaments with the mouse, so I think it really shouldn't happen in any case. I can only imagine the mouse not wanting to work with the mouse pad, but your mouse pads aren't anything unusual, so that idea is weird, too.

You should make sure the mouse runs on 1000 Hz. That could be important for highest speed it will track. I bet no one ever tested the mouse with 125 Hz.

Perhaps your particular mouse is broken.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
dthree
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia150 Posts
June 22 2013 23:23 GMT
#2457
I wouldn't say its very large sweeping motions at all since its fine on my WMO, mouse is at 1000Hz
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
June 24 2013 11:57 GMT
#2458
What DPI is it set to and what driver settings?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
eburnsdaniel
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom69 Posts
June 26 2013 22:55 GMT
#2459
Can anyone tell me how to bind additional mouse buttons without software? I have a mouse that has no software for binding the side buttons. I can install X-Mouse or some other keybinding software but will this interfere with the 1:1 ratio achieved through 6/11 and 51-54%?
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
June 27 2013 08:36 GMT
#2460
i'll ask it again in that thread, forgive me i'm not spamming!!

Q : can anyone remind me of default sensitivity values per levels
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