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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 27 2013 11:11 GMT
#2461
I have no idea what you mean. What levels?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
dthree
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia150 Posts
June 27 2013 12:03 GMT
#2462
On June 24 2013 20:57 Cyro wrote:
What DPI is it set to and what driver settings?


ive tried all 3 dpi (450 seems the best) and i don't have the drivers installed because they suck
eBinTestO
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland104 Posts
June 27 2013 13:06 GMT
#2463
What drivers did you try? The Synapse is shit, but try this;

http://drivers.razersupport.com/index.php?_m=downloads&_a=viewdownload&downloaditemid=450&_m=downloads&_a=viewdownload&downloaditemid=450
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
June 27 2013 14:14 GMT
#2464
On June 27 2013 20:11 Ropid wrote:
I have no idea what you mean. What levels?

G9X have 3 settings (red, blue, green), with each settings 4 default DPI "settings" (which I called "levels")
these 4 or maybe 5 I don't remember well... are how much DPI?
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 16:59:16
June 27 2013 16:58 GMT
#2465
Mouse deal: kinzu v2 pros on sale at woot.com, $15 (normally $45):

http://tech.woot.com/plus/steelseries-kinzu-v2-pro-edition-optical-gaming-mouse

(I realize that some people don't like the sensor on this thing, but it's otherwise a good deal on a fairly solid mouse.)
fujimi
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan32 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 00:37:02
June 29 2013 00:35 GMT
#2466
Has anyone seen the Razer Salmosa for sale online recently? On eBay they're only selling the (smaller) asia version of this mouse.

If all hope is lost, I'd gladly take some hot tips for a mouse that's lightweight and has a shape similar to the salmosa. I have big hands and use claw-grip, so the salmosa is basically a LMO in my hand.
If only those pigs could fly away..
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 29 2013 04:31 GMT
#2467
The Razer Abyssus is very similar, basically a newer version of the Salmosa. It is the exact same size, the buttons are shaped slightly different and have a sharp edge, and there is no angle snapping in the sensor.

Look here (Abyssus on the far right, Salmosa second from right): http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/kinzu.jpg/
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
dZn
Profile Joined April 2012
23 Posts
June 29 2013 05:11 GMT
#2468
On June 27 2013 23:14 tns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 20:11 Ropid wrote:
I have no idea what you mean. What levels?

G9X have 3 settings (red, blue, green), with each settings 4 default DPI "settings" (which I called "levels")
these 4 or maybe 5 I don't remember well... are how much DPI?



you can download logitech driver software and finetune your personal dpi settings in steps of 50.
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 15:59:16
June 29 2013 15:58 GMT
#2469
On June 29 2013 14:11 dZn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 23:14 tns wrote:
On June 27 2013 20:11 Ropid wrote:
I have no idea what you mean. What levels?

G9X have 3 settings (red, blue, green), with each settings 4 default DPI "settings" (which I called "levels")
these 4 or maybe 5 I don't remember well... are how much DPI?



you can download logitech driver software and finetune your personal dpi settings in steps of 50.

I already had a logitech g9x and its software... and still have the software... (and with the software I can't get dpi values without having the mouse) but I don't have it anymore... and I wanted to get the same dpi... that's why I wanted to know the default dpi... to get back to the same dpi with another mouse...

edit : still anyone to answer ?
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 29 2013 16:30 GMT
#2470
On June 30 2013 00:58 tns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 14:11 dZn wrote:
On June 27 2013 23:14 tns wrote:
On June 27 2013 20:11 Ropid wrote:
I have no idea what you mean. What levels?

G9X have 3 settings (red, blue, green), with each settings 4 default DPI "settings" (which I called "levels")
these 4 or maybe 5 I don't remember well... are how much DPI?



you can download logitech driver software and finetune your personal dpi settings in steps of 50.

I already had a logitech g9x and its software... and still have the software... (and with the software I can't get dpi values without having the mouse) but I don't have it anymore... and I wanted to get the same dpi... that's why I wanted to know the default dpi... to get back to the same dpi with another mouse...

edit : still anyone to answer ?

This review mentions stuff about the default profiles and has a table with the exact dpi numbers: http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=547&Itemid=65&limitstart=3
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
June 30 2013 04:48 GMT
#2471
On June 30 2013 01:30 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 00:58 tns wrote:
On June 29 2013 14:11 dZn wrote:
On June 27 2013 23:14 tns wrote:
On June 27 2013 20:11 Ropid wrote:
I have no idea what you mean. What levels?

G9X have 3 settings (red, blue, green), with each settings 4 default DPI "settings" (which I called "levels")
these 4 or maybe 5 I don't remember well... are how much DPI?



you can download logitech driver software and finetune your personal dpi settings in steps of 50.

I already had a logitech g9x and its software... and still have the software... (and with the software I can't get dpi values without having the mouse) but I don't have it anymore... and I wanted to get the same dpi... that's why I wanted to know the default dpi... to get back to the same dpi with another mouse...

edit : still anyone to answer ?

This review mentions stuff about the default profiles and has a table with the exact dpi numbers: http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=547&Itemid=65&limitstart=3

Love you
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
Wendig0
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9 Posts
July 01 2013 06:54 GMT
#2472
Well I've been toying around with the thought of getting a new mouse solely for the purpose of playing SC2. It's been a long journey of research and disappointment in not finding the "perfect" mouse. I've been a long fan of Logitech's products for years... I've used one of their basic optical mice, mx510, mx518 and I've been using a g5. While I was doing my research I realized that I am a "fingertip" user. So then I felt that I should deviate from the "ergonomic" designs and use a smaller mouse with a lighter feel. It finally came down between the Logitech g100s and the Razer Abyssus. I found it for about $30 from Amazon and bit the bullet and bought myself the Abyssus. I hope I made the right choice.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
July 02 2013 06:11 GMT
#2473
1. What's your grip style?
Claw that is very palm like
2. What's your sensitivity?
1200 DPI on 1920x1080 with no accel and standard windows sensativity
3. What's your maximum budget?
Whatever
4. Do you want additional buttons?
I like one side button for my thumb to easy use.
5. What games do you play?
Sc2 only.
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
No angle snapping. Though read #7. I would sac this to get what's in #7.
7. Other relevant information:
I have fairly aggressive tendonitis. I have tried several mice. The abyssus, Xai, Ikairu, and g9. The g9 was the best by far (used no weight and either no casing or the rough casing). The thing I have discovered that helps me the most is easy to press mouse buttons. One that require little force and very little travel distance. I used a cheap no name mouse for awhile at a non sc setting and noticed zero pain even after hours. I expriemented and made boxes during my free time constant... Basically made sc2 mouse movements. No pain no nothing.

Any nice claw gaming mice with extremely easy to press mouse buttons?

Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 02 2013 06:22 GMT
#2474
On July 02 2013 15:11 vaderseven wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. What's your grip style?
Claw that is very palm like
2. What's your sensitivity?
1200 DPI on 1920x1080 with no accel and standard windows sensativity
3. What's your maximum budget?
Whatever
4. Do you want additional buttons?
I like one side button for my thumb to easy use.
5. What games do you play?
Sc2 only.
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
No angle snapping. Though read #7. I would sac this to get what's in #7.
7. Other relevant information:
I have fairly aggressive tendonitis. I have tried several mice. The abyssus, Xai, Ikairu, and g9. The g9 was the best by far (used no weight and either no casing or the rough casing). The thing I have discovered that helps me the most is easy to press mouse buttons. One that require little force and very little travel distance. I used a cheap no name mouse for awhile at a non sc setting and noticed zero pain even after hours. I expriemented and made boxes during my free time constant... Basically made sc2 mouse movements. No pain no nothing.

Any nice claw gaming mice with extremely easy to press mouse buttons?



Deathadder has extremely easy to press buttons.

On another note, does anyone know of a mouse with a similiar shape to the sensei with a good sensor that isn't 50+$
doomcore
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany16 Posts
July 02 2013 07:53 GMT
#2475
On July 02 2013 15:22 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 15:11 vaderseven wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. What's your grip style?
Claw that is very palm like
2. What's your sensitivity?
1200 DPI on 1920x1080 with no accel and standard windows sensativity
3. What's your maximum budget?
Whatever
4. Do you want additional buttons?
I like one side button for my thumb to easy use.
5. What games do you play?
Sc2 only.
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
No angle snapping. Though read #7. I would sac this to get what's in #7.
7. Other relevant information:
I have fairly aggressive tendonitis. I have tried several mice. The abyssus, Xai, Ikairu, and g9. The g9 was the best by far (used no weight and either no casing or the rough casing). The thing I have discovered that helps me the most is easy to press mouse buttons. One that require little force and very little travel distance. I used a cheap no name mouse for awhile at a non sc setting and noticed zero pain even after hours. I expriemented and made boxes during my free time constant... Basically made sc2 mouse movements. No pain no nothing.

Any nice claw gaming mice with extremely easy to press mouse buttons?



Deathadder has extremely easy to press buttons.

On another note, does anyone know of a mouse with a similiar shape to the sensei with a good sensor that isn't 50+$


With a good Sensor?? Roccat Savu or Zowie AM (costs more but best mouse ever!!!)
dum spiro spero
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
July 02 2013 08:51 GMT
#2476
On July 02 2013 16:53 doomcore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 15:22 Esoterikk wrote:
On July 02 2013 15:11 vaderseven wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
1. What's your grip style?
Claw that is very palm like
2. What's your sensitivity?
1200 DPI on 1920x1080 with no accel and standard windows sensativity
3. What's your maximum budget?
Whatever
4. Do you want additional buttons?
I like one side button for my thumb to easy use.
5. What games do you play?
Sc2 only.
6. Do you mind angle snapping?
No angle snapping. Though read #7. I would sac this to get what's in #7.
7. Other relevant information:
I have fairly aggressive tendonitis. I have tried several mice. The abyssus, Xai, Ikairu, and g9. The g9 was the best by far (used no weight and either no casing or the rough casing). The thing I have discovered that helps me the most is easy to press mouse buttons. One that require little force and very little travel distance. I used a cheap no name mouse for awhile at a non sc setting and noticed zero pain even after hours. I expriemented and made boxes during my free time constant... Basically made sc2 mouse movements. No pain no nothing.

Any nice claw gaming mice with extremely easy to press mouse buttons?



Deathadder has extremely easy to press buttons.

On another note, does anyone know of a mouse with a similiar shape to the sensei with a good sensor that isn't 50+$


With a good Sensor?? Roccat Savu or Zowie AM (costs more but best mouse ever!!!)


They will feel close to a sensei? I have heard iffy things about the savu though.
Xs1nX
Profile Joined July 2013
United Kingdom5 Posts
July 02 2013 13:31 GMT
#2477
I have been using Claw/Finger grip on a Steelseries Xai for the last 2 years, prior to that I was using a Logitech G5 with a more palm style grip.

I wish to have a go at going back to that style and mixing it up a bit in general as it where and have been looking at the Deathadder 2013 to do this. I do have a concern about its size however.

In terms of hand size id be 6.5in approximately from tip of middle finger to where the blue line (ligament) is on this diagram http://www.thehelpinghand.com/images/cts-1a.gif as a guide. Given this would the DA be worth a try ?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 03 2013 04:19 GMT
#2478
I'm going to be purchasing a Zowie EC1 eVo mouse soon. I will also need to replace my mousepad. I have a Goliathus, and it's served me well for a few years, but the top is peeling now. Does anyone recommend a good cloth mousepad? I would like one that's maybe slightly softer on the wrist.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
July 03 2013 04:32 GMT
#2479
You should answer: What kind of sens you use/will use (dpi, any multipliers, any accel, screen resolution) and also: On a scale of 1-10, with 0 being "impossible to move" and 10 being ice, how glidy do you want the pad to be?

Most mousepad reccomendations (mice too, and hardware in general, maybe even things in general) are "i have this and it's not awful so buy one" (:

There's quite a bit of choice out there
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 05:05:02
July 03 2013 04:38 GMT
#2480
On July 02 2013 22:31 Xs1nX wrote:
I have been using Claw/Finger grip on a Steelseries Xai for the last 2 years, prior to that I was using a Logitech G5 with a more palm style grip.

I wish to have a go at going back to that style and mixing it up a bit in general as it where and have been looking at the Deathadder 2013 to do this. I do have a concern about its size however.

In terms of hand size id be 6.5in approximately from tip of middle finger to where the blue line (ligament) is on this diagram http://www.thehelpinghand.com/images/cts-1a.gif as a guide. Given this would the DA be worth a try ?


I think it's a great mouse, it served me well for many years, i don't have any way to measure right now but i think my hands are bigger, and for claw/fingertip i think it holds me back a bit on osu, being too long, big/heavy in general, perhaps combined with the slippery slides on the 3.5g (2013 adds grips to the sides.. but far too small ones)

It's a really great mouse but it just seems designed around palm grip (which i dont understand, at a high level of mouse control it seems to me like palm is simply inferior to other grip types?) It's flaws would be though build quality, i hear a lot of people have broken deathadders, and i think the 2013 still has bad setup on the underside of the mouse with the feet not being tall/big enough etc. You'd have to look into it though.

In terms of easy to control, light claw/fingertip, i'm still looking into the coolermaster storm spawn and xornet, probably holding out til spawn v2 (no idea when it releases, but spawn v1 is discontinued in europe and xornet is cheap cheap cheap, great value but worse sensor)

primarily for this reason: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Very hard to resist that grip. You might be interested in it, but it's a small mouse shell with a rather unique shape. No major issues on spawn AFAIK since the lag issue got fixed (one of the best sensors available)

I promise also, Coolermaster is not paying me I just like their product in this case.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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