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On July 03 2013 13:32 Cyro wrote:
You should answer: What kind of sens you use/will use (dpi, any multipliers, any accel, screen resolution) and also: On a scale of 1-10, with 0 being "impossible to move" and 10 being ice, how glidy do you want the pad to be?
Most mousepad reccomendations (mice too, and hardware in general, maybe even things in general) are "i have this and it's not awful so buy one" (:
There's quite a bit of choice out there
I use 1600 dpi, no acceleration, 1920x1080. As for friction, I've only used the goliathus, so I'm not sure how to rate on a scale of 10, but anything equal or slightly smoother than the goliathus would be okay. Are there any good resources that compare mousepads?
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Not that i know of, sorry. I only know that for example, the puretrak talent is really slidy, and the qck+ is aparantly quite grippy. Some sensors play better with different pads than others too
The mouse you mentioned only had three DPI options, ~450, ~1150 and ~2300 off the top of my head? It also looked really close to a deathadder clone which i found funny.
Dont let that put you off though, unless you're really stuck on 1600 you'd probably see a lot of benefit dropping to 1150
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On July 03 2013 14:13 Cyro wrote:
Not that i know of, sorry. I only know that for example, the puretrak talent is really slidy, and the qck+ is aparantly quite grippy. Some sensors play better with different pads than others too
The mouse you mentioned only had three DPI options, ~450, ~1150 and ~2300 off the top of my head? It also looked really close to a deathadder clone which i found funny
Alright, I've looked up some reviews on the Talent, and I think I'll be trying it out.
The reason why I'm choosing the ES1 is because it's the exact shape and dimensions of the deathadder. The deathadder has the absolute perfect shape for my grip, but after going through three of them, I just figure it's not worth it having to constantly replace them when they break. Gonna give the ES1 a shot and see how I like it.
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hi everyone
I'm not able to find a correct mouse for my hand (right handed, fingertip grip)
intellimouse optical was by far the best mouse shape I ever used, but only 400dpi where I need both 400(fps) and 800 (sc2).
Razer mouse's, as said just above, are way too fragile. I could believe its a razer trademark... I dont want to waste my money.
I currently use a Xai and a Zowie AM GS on a QCK heavy mousepad (black):
Xai has a really nice shape for my grip, it fits perfectly. but is a little too heavy, and sensor is not as good as it should (like the zowie one).
Zowie AM has a great sensor (really) and is lighter than the Xai. but the LOD is too low, making tracker to stop everytime I do fast circular movements. I lift the mouse (not much) to reduce wrist angle in order to go faster. Lots of players are doing like that, even if they never realized it.
plus, zowie AM's shape is not good for my hand. it's unconfortable (I have big hands). I was expecting quite the same shape than the Xai, but it is smaller and more like that /_____\ where Xai is more <_______>.
I really need my next mouse to be light (70g - 80g). I also tried the SS Kana but sensor is so bad... Sold it after 2 days.
Any advices?
Thanks
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The only recommendation for mg post on last page is DA? Is there no other mouse know for low force mouse clicking?
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On July 03 2013 22:56 vaderseven wrote:
The only recommendation for mg post on last page is DA? Is there no other mouse know for low force mouse clicking?
You could research the switches used and look for those in another mouse.
You might find the CM Storm Spawn interesting, though I feel you really can't rest your palm on it. Also look at CM Storm Recon.
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DA is a weird case in terms of clicking cause the buttoms are like more than half of the lengh of the mouse
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On July 03 2013 23:36 Ropid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 22:56 vaderseven wrote:
The only recommendation for mg post on last page is DA? Is there no other mouse know for low force mouse clicking? You could research the switches used and look for those in another mouse. You might find the CM Storm Spawn interesting, though I feel you really can't rest your palm on it. Also look at CM Storm Recon.
I've found switch type is only part of the equation. Travel distance effects the overall feel as well.
I've liked the shape of my g9 even though I tend to like to palm more than the average g9 user would and from my research the shape of the spawn is similar. If you compared the force and travel distance needed to use a button between the g9 and the spawn what conclusions would you draw?
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On July 04 2013 00:23 Cyro wrote:
DA is a weird case in terms of clicking cause the buttoms are like more than half of the lengh of the mouse
This is one of the few mice I could easily go out and try and I must say I have mixed feelings about that exact feature... It almost encourages you to lay your fingers flat in order to make the buttons easy to press. I do not like that.
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I use an Abyssus and tried the Xornet. I can't recommend the Xornet as I feel only the 500 dpi setting is good, 1000 dpi already pretty bad, and 2000 dpi annoying. You can't hit single pixels. The Spawn is available in the US and is supposed to have a better sensor, same shape and buttons.
The buttons being easy to press was one of the first things I noticed compared to the Abyssus. I actually had problems with that. I kept accidentally activating the buttons just from resting my fingers on it. It uses Omron switches like the DA that someone suggested to you. Those Omron switches are also in the G9x, I think.
The Spawn's shape might be bad for you. It's pretty flat and short and you said you want to maybe palm it. That won't work. That's why you should also look at the Recon, also from CM-Storm. It should be long and high enough so that you can press a part of your palm into it while doing some kind of finger tip or claw grip. Prices are pretty good for all those mice (Xornet, Spawn and Recon).
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Thank you. Now let's see if I can find a store that has the recon and the spawn and will let me try it...
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Has anyone tried the zowie FK yet / heard good reviews?
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On July 03 2013 14:13 Cyro wrote:
Not that i know of, sorry. I only know that for example, the puretrak talent is really slidy, and the qck+ is aparantly quite grippy. Some sensors play better with different pads than others too
The mouse you mentioned only had three DPI options, ~450, ~1150 and ~2300 off the top of my head? It also looked really close to a deathadder clone which i found funny.
Dont let that put you off though, unless you're really stuck on 1600 you'd probably see a lot of benefit dropping to 1150
And DeathAdder is a "clone" of Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0.
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On July 05 2013 22:49 zetik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 14:13 Cyro wrote:
Not that i know of, sorry. I only know that for example, the puretrak talent is really slidy, and the qck+ is aparantly quite grippy. Some sensors play better with different pads than others too
The mouse you mentioned only had three DPI options, ~450, ~1150 and ~2300 off the top of my head? It also looked really close to a deathadder clone which i found funny.
Dont let that put you off though, unless you're really stuck on 1600 you'd probably see a lot of benefit dropping to 1150 And DeathAdder is a "clone" of Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0.
They're a similar shape, deathadder and that other mouse are much closer to identical
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On July 05 2013 22:53 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2013 22:49 zetik wrote:On July 03 2013 14:13 Cyro wrote:
Not that i know of, sorry. I only know that for example, the puretrak talent is really slidy, and the qck+ is aparantly quite grippy. Some sensors play better with different pads than others too
The mouse you mentioned only had three DPI options, ~450, ~1150 and ~2300 off the top of my head? It also looked really close to a deathadder clone which i found funny.
Dont let that put you off though, unless you're really stuck on 1600 you'd probably see a lot of benefit dropping to 1150 And DeathAdder is a "clone" of Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0. They're a similar shape, deathadder and that other mouse are much closer to identical
I don't understand exactly what you mean. EC1 is almost identical to the old Intellimouse 3.0. DeathAdder is a bit higher and shorter.
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Ok then, maybe i'm wrong, that's just the impression i got. I dont remember intelli 3.0 having the same weird shape on the right side, or the exact same button placements etc
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Anyone have any idea where to find a good quality cloth/hybrid light coloured(White/Grey,Red,Blue) "gaming" mat for use with the CM Xornet ? as I believe it works best with such surfaces.
Really struggling to find anything out there that is not black and doesn't have a complicated graphic design on it via UK based online retailers.
About the only thing I can find with any reliability is Qpad CT White (http://www.qpad.com/products/mousepads/CT-WHITE/) but its not plain white and I don't know if the design on it would be an issue.
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The Xornet seemed to work fine for me on a black QCK. The sensor just couldn't really do 1000 dpi or 2000 dpi, only the lowest 500 dpi. Would this have been better with a colored pad?
It couldn't really navigate to single pixels on 1000 dpi and higher, but the things it did, it did consistently, so I thought that's just what the sensor is like, the 500 dpi being the actual resolution, and the 1000 and 2000 dpi being somewhat fake and interpolated. I didn't think to try a different surface like for example a sheet of white paper.
I got rid of the Xornet so can't test again.
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I heard it worked a lot better on the puretrak talent
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On July 03 2013 21:32 jouzeroff wrote:
hi everyone
I'm not able to find a correct mouse for my hand (right handed, fingertip grip)
intellimouse optical was by far the best mouse shape I ever used, but only 400dpi where I need both 400(fps) and 800 (sc2).
Razer mouse's, as said just above, are way too fragile. I could believe its a razer trademark... I dont want to waste my money.
I currently use a Xai and a Zowie AM GS on a QCK heavy mousepad (black):
Xai has a really nice shape for my grip, it fits perfectly. but is a little too heavy, and sensor is not as good as it should (like the zowie one).
Zowie AM has a great sensor (really) and is lighter than the Xai. but the LOD is too low, making tracker to stop everytime I do fast circular movements. I lift the mouse (not much) to reduce wrist angle in order to go faster. Lots of players are doing like that, even if they never realized it.
plus, zowie AM's shape is not good for my hand. it's unconfortable (I have big hands). I was expecting quite the same shape than the Xai, but it is smaller and more like that /_____\ where Xai is more <_______>.
I really need my next mouse to be light (70g - 80g). I also tried the SS Kana but sensor is so bad... Sold it after 2 days.
Any advices?
Thanks
The Kana is a great mouse, it just needs updating. There's a update tool on SteelSeries' website.
Zowie FK has a improved shape over AM. You can get used to the low LOD quite quickly.
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