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I've been looking to buy a mouse for a while now and most mice I find are built for FPS which would still work fine in Starcraft, but I'm wondering if there are any mouse that are built for RTS
I'm not the biggest fan of Razer but I would still buy one if I were to get enough recommendations. So if anyone could help me out by narrowing my choices it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Villain.343
P.S. I use a claw grip so I don't really want a mouse that is a rock but I could get used to one that is.
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I was gonna make a suggestion, but then I saw you use a claw grip.
I know Day[9] uses a claw grip and LOVED the new Razer SC2 mouse... but idk take it with a grain of salt.
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pick any you feel comfortable with.
Many gamers use an 4-5 old Logitech Mouse, or the Microsoft Intelli. Others use Razer "High"end products etc.
It all comes down to you.
For Reference i use a Razer Salmosa.
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Salmosa and Abyssus have a really good shape for RTS. It's all about vertical movement in RTS so shape is pretty important so when you make a vertical movement, the mouse won't be in the way making it tiresome in the long run. Similar shapes would be the Logitech mx300/g1/g3 and even the g9x, although it's a little heavy
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i've noticed that a lot of starcraft players, myself included, use the razer salmosa. it's out of production now so it's tricky to find, but it's a great mouse, and very durable.
but of course, as long as the mouse is good quality, the rest is all personal preference.
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Any mouse that works.. I thought about getting a really good mouse but then I realized that the mouse doesnt matter much. You controlling the mouse is what matters.. The basic black logitech mouse I think is the best in my opinion.. cheap and lasts long.
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there have been so many of these thread
my god.
use what you like. there is absolutely no benefit between mouses, it only and ONLY depends on what YOU prefer to use.
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Steel series XAI is my mouse of choice, super comfortable. feels great in game, fast reaction time.
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I use a G5 since a long time and I like it but it just depens on yourself. some like a big mouse some like a small one, some prefer a heavy one etc... go into a shop and take them in the hand and then decide which one you want to buy.
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![[image loading]](http://aphnetworks.com/review/logitech_g9/007.JPG)
Very happy with my Logitech G9 configured at full weight with the scroll wheel locked. One thing to consider is that the 1.2 patch will allow us to map a mouse button to Push-To-Talk, so while for the most part any mouse will do, it can be handy to have at least one extra button besides the wheel.
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ohlookitsthisthreadagain.jpg
but seriously no one can tell you what the best mouse is. you just have to try them out for yourself. something someone recommend could be a mouse that you would never want to use.
the best bet is to continue using whatever mouse you've been using, unless you have a problem with it
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I've been meaning to buy a mouse for a while as well, even though I've had little time for SC2 as of late.
I played against a friend of mine recently who uses a cmstorm brand mouse. It felt extremely comfortable, has removable weights inside it, and adjustable sensitivity with buttons on the mouse. Plus, I believe it goes up to ~5600dpi so you're guaranteed to be safe for the next few years of OS'es that come out. Works well with most games including fps.
The only drawback was that the scroll wheel felt really cheap and delicate, as if I pressed too hard it would break. The mouse itself is priced at around $50, and personally I feel its far more comfortable than the Razer ones, and quite a bit cheaper.
Also, here's the pics:
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I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
![[image loading]](http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/razer-deathadder1.jpg?w=300)
Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
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I recently did a lot of research on a mouse and am extremely happy with my recent purchase, the Razer Abyssus.
I use claw grip so this mouse is awesome. Very low profile and has a great weight to it. Doesn't have auto correction and the laser is very accurate, with a good mouse pad (which is needed).
No excess buttons, just left, right, and scroll wheel. Has 3 dpi settings that can go to 3500 which is important for SC2 if you play on a high resolution.
I really can't find any flaws with this mouse, except for the top of it is made of some kind of material that feels really nice, but picks up every single fingerprint ever. This might bother some, but I couldn't care less. It is an excellent mouse for gaming and that is all that matters to me.
If you use claw grip you can't go wrong with the Abyssus.
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Yeah the Death Adder is definitely my favorite mouse of all time. The only two draw backs for an RTS game is that its not as good as Razer's other mice if you prefer claw grip. As well as the fact that it is a Razer, which means it's guaranteed to break in 8-12 months if your a hardcore gamer, but in all honesty I keep buying them when they break (even keep a spare) because no mouse can compare with the ergonomic design as well as the relatively light weight compared to other palm grip mice, as recommended above you really need a good mat the get the best out of a Death Adder because the tactile surface of a high end mat will make your palm movements much more accurate as well as mitigate some of the weight factor.
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On December 05 2010 06:09 lol.Froste wrote: there have been so many of these thread
my god.
use what you like. there is absolutely no benefit between mouses, it only and ONLY depends on what YOU prefer to use.
I wish mods would start auto-banning anyone who makes mouse threads. There have been so many, any information a person would want to know is for sure in one of the threads.
Like, seriously: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=best mouse&t=ct&f=-1&u=&gb=date
OP, please use search next time.
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On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well. ![[image loading]](http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/razer-deathadder1.jpg?w=300) Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion: ![[image loading]](http://images.shopping.indiatimes.com/images/product/102606_SNRAMA-301_pbilimage1.jpg) I use this mouse too but the one gripe I have with it is that dirt and dust stick to it like a motherfucker. I have to wipe off the glossy sides a lot and I also do wash my hands.
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I use claw grip too and have been using Razor Lachesis for over a few years to play sc and it's been really great. It actually took me like 6 months to get used to its grip, but right now it feels like it's a part of my hand. I use the second lowest dpi setting for sc2 and am very happy with my settings.
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Dominican Republic913 Posts
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well. ![[image loading]](http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/razer-deathadder1.jpg?w=300) Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion: ![[image loading]](http://images.shopping.indiatimes.com/images/product/102606_SNRAMA-301_pbilimage1.jpg)
+1 real good combo
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A "good mouse" is primarily personal preference, and what you're used to.
Also, use the search box.
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Basic Optical Mouse 1.0A
![[image loading]](http://www.viking-direct.co.uk/pictures/gb/vkg/sk/lg/p58-00019_sk_lg.jpg)
It's the best, it has never failed me.
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On December 05 2010 07:01 Widar wrote:Basic Optical Mouse 1.0A ![[image loading]](http://www.viking-direct.co.uk/pictures/gb/vkg/sk/lg/p58-00019_sk_lg.jpg) It's the best, it has never failed me.
Agreed. This mouse has served me well for years.
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Razer Abyssus
![[image loading]](http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20091112/abyssus_454x346.jpg)
Along with the Steelseries mousepad thats been posted several times, they work amazing together.
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On December 05 2010 07:14 Enki wrote:Razer Abysuss ![[image loading]](http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20091112/abyssus_454x346.jpg) Along with the Steelseries mousepad thats been posted several times, they work amazing together. I use this, perfect for me when it comes to sc2. I have a kabuto mousepad
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Mx518
![[image loading]](http://www.dodatnaoprema.com/images/2740/misevi_logitech_kompjuter19.jpg)
with Roccat Taito
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I use deathadder as well, amazing mouse.
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What's the benifit of having a mousepad like that? Does it really effect how good your mouse works?
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Something small and light, sensors hardly matter at all for rts; half the bw pros have some random 10$ mice.
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Im not using any Mousepad, is it that important?
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On December 05 2010 07:54 Grebliv wrote: Something small and light, sensors hardly matter at all for rts; half the bw pros have some random 10$ mice.
it does matter. skipping or massive acceleration are a no-go in any competitive real-time game, no matter if its fps or rts or even something like dota or wow arena.
the reason why bw pros use super old mice is that bw is played in a 640x480 resolution where the ordinary 400 dpi of these old mice are sufficient. sc2 on the other hand is usually played in resolutions of at the very least 1280, so that 400 dpi dont cut it anymore.
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For a claw grip as you mentioned, the razer abyssus gets my vote. The deathadder as people mentioned I would say to stay away from, for a claw grip as you mentioned it is waaaayyy too big and favors a palm grip. I own both of them, the abyssus is definitely a good mouse for rts gaming.
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I use a Razer Diamondback with a func mousepad.
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On December 05 2010 06:09 Cha1R wrote: Steel series XAI is my mouse of choice, super comfortable. feels great in game, fast reaction time.
Definitely seconded. I love my Xai
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Dominican Republic913 Posts
On December 05 2010 07:57 Stoles wrote: Im not using any Mousepad, is it that important?
mouse pointer is more smooth and precise. It is also quieter with a mouse pad. No running the mouse over a hard surface.
I don't know why people don't use them. I always see people using their mouse only on the desk and the pointer jots everywhere and it's real noisy.
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![[image loading]](http://savasplace.com/content/files/Image/blog_posts/2009/01/razer-mamba-gaming-mouse.jpg)
Razer mamba. :D
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Having used ALOT of mice, almost all so far recommended, I definately feel that Xai is the best one for me. It works with both a claw grip and a regular rested hand on it and I've yet to experience any problems that a cotton Q-tip to the laser couldn't solve.
I do recommend you going to a local store and gripping a few different ones there though as I do not know what you feel comfortable with.
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On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote: I use a Razer Deathadder, [/img]
Same here never had any problems with my Deathadder except for the fact it's a dirt magnet.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
On December 05 2010 06:22 logankoester wrote:![[image loading]](http://aphnetworks.com/review/logitech_g9/007.JPG) Very happy with my Logitech G9 configured at full weight with the scroll wheel locked. One thing to consider is that the 1.2 patch will allow us to map a mouse button to Push-To-Talk, so while for the most part any mouse will do, it can be handy to have at least one extra button besides the wheel.
I've been using the G9x for around 4 months and it is brilliant. There really is nothing bad to say about it except the price. However, if you're willing to shell out some cash on a quality product, i definitely recommend this.
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Currently using a razer diamondback 3g myself. Would love to give the new Spectre SC2 mouse a try with it's super high dpi and similar shape/size to the diamondback.
If you really dislike razer maybe the logitech MX518 would be a good choice.
Edit: forgot to mention I play with claw grip as well.
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I use a Kensignton mouse.. Didn't really have any other mouse to use so I found this one in my house it's GREAT! I love it and it's great! I may not have any top of the line mouses that most people do. But if you love to play starcraft 2. This mouse is amazing ! In my honest opinion haven't tried any other mouse though...
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On December 05 2010 07:57 Stoles wrote: Im not using any Mousepad, is it that important? Yes, it's as important as the mouse, a good mousepad such as the Steelseries QcK changes the way you percieve movement. I've bought a Cyborg R.A.T. 7, and used it 2 days without a mousepad, it was horrible, but after I paired it with the QcK it just floates, it really improves the precision, the movement, everything basically.
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Using a Razer Destructor Mousepad, with a Steelseries Ikari Laser. I have brought my setup to the lan center I frequent, very often, and all of the other customers love my setup. It's super accurate, it feels light, ergonomic, and efficient. Have a Steelseries 7g for the keyboard as well since I love the wristguard for it.
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you need all the razor APM technology in order to become good
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There are hundreds of these threads already.
That's actually getting pretty close to a literal statement.
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![[image loading]](http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/6646/img0083z.jpg)
Raze DeathAdder. It's perfect, but then again it's the first gaming mouse I bought. But I'm so glad I did, it really improved my ability to use the mouse effectively and comfortably. I'll also attach my personal "mouseholding-preference", as that differs. I'm not a "claw" type of guy.
Mouse holding position
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On December 05 2010 08:20 cartofu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 07:57 Stoles wrote: Im not using any Mousepad, is it that important? Yes, it's as important as the mouse, a good mousepad such as the Steelseries QcK changes the way you percieve movement. I've bought a Cyborg R.A.T. 7, and used it 2 days without a mousepad, it was horrible, but after I paired it with the QcK it just floates, it really improves the precision, the movement, everything basically. ![[image loading]](http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4558/rat7right.png)
What the fuck îs that ABOMINATION?
P.S. More than meets the eye..
I also have a question. I use a wireless MX1000 laser mouse and i really like that 500 pounds rock.. But a lot of people say that wireless îs bad. Why îs that? Do you REALLY percive the couple nanoseconds of delay because the signal travels with less than 300km/s for a distance of 20 cm? I don't..
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Deathadder > Salmosa IMO, but I have pretty big hands so that may be why.
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So many deathadders! I too have one and prefer it over the Logitech MX518
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TBH, just get a razer. they are comfortable, very accurate and work great.
I have a diamond back and a razer destructor gaming surface (aka a large mouse mat )
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what ever mouse feels best to you, your question is relative it would be like saying "what is the best food in the world?" well that is completely relative to the person, i strongly advise re-wording your question to something like "what mouse do you use and why do u like it etc, and ask for polling rates etc".
ontopic: i use a logitech g500, feels pretty nice, 3 buttons on side if you wana use em as control grps (if you wana do this gotta edit their function in logitech setpoint) for no point rly. scroll locked ofc, also there you can change sensitivity of mouse on the go (5settings). the feet on the mouse are better than most other logitech mouses.
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On December 05 2010 08:25 vnlegend wrote: you need all the razor APM technology in order to become good you mean like the keyboard that blinks dif color lights based on your apm?
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On December 05 2010 08:31 Dagon wrote: I also have a question. I use a wireless MX1000 laser mouse and i really like that 500 pounds rock.. But a lot of people say that wireless îs bad. Why îs that? Do you REALLY percive the couple nanoseconds of delay because the signal travels with less than 300km/s for a distance of 20 cm? I don't..
I switched from a mx1000 to a Razer Abyssus and the difference is huge imo. I guess the precision is fine but once you get a very light mouse like the Abyssus and get used to it, it feels so much better. It's the same with all these discussions, having a better mouse won't magicly make you better but it can give you a small edge and most importantly make it more enjoyable to play.
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I love my Razer Salmosa
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I've used to have a Logitech MX300, but 400 wasn't enough for SC2 so I switched to an A4Tech X7, cheap high DPI mouse, the tracker is horrible and has very bad movement prediction, used it for two months and had to stop playing Quake Live with it because it was unbearable, for SC2 it was decent but in the end I got a Razer Death Adder and while I'm not a fan of the shape the mouse is really good, I claw grip and stabilize the mouse with a single point of my palm on the back of the mouse, the DA is decent to use with claw grip but it's too heavy to play for long periods.
I've heard the Salmosa was very good but after researching about the mouse I've found that it has movement prediction and I literally hate that, maybe I'll aim for an Abyssus or a Logitech G9x if I can afford one, the Xai seems like a good mouse but I can't find anyplace in my country that has one on display to test, does anyone know if it works with claw grip?
I wish Logitech would still make a mouse shaped as the MX300/G1/G3, I can't understand why they discontinued that model, it was really good.
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I love my G5. Too bad it's been discontinued...
G500 and MX518 seem similar enough, though. I'll probably move on to one when my G5 dies, if that ever happens. I've had it for an absurdly long time now (4+ years) with zero complaints.
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Love my MX518, and it costs like half the price of the competition. Can't go wrong really, unless money is not an issue for you
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On December 05 2010 08:20 cartofu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 07:57 Stoles wrote: Im not using any Mousepad, is it that important? Yes, it's as important as the mouse, a good mousepad such as the Steelseries QcK changes the way you percieve movement. I've bought a Cyborg R.A.T. 7, and used it 2 days without a mousepad, it was horrible, but after I paired it with the QcK it just floates, it really improves the precision, the movement, everything basically. ![[image loading]](http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4558/rat7right.png)
wtf is that? a transformer? lol
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Whatever mouse that feels comfortable is the preferred mouse for SC2. I use the G9x because it rests my hand in a very natural position which prevents carpel tunnel. Gaming mice arent really worth the money when it comes to RTS because you can't use macros legally in tourneys and such. FPS and RPGs on the other hand are where they shine.
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On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well. ![[image loading]](http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/razer-deathadder1.jpg?w=300) Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion: ![[image loading]](http://images.shopping.indiatimes.com/images/product/102606_SNRAMA-301_pbilimage1.jpg)
Totally Agree. I have the Dethadder, as well as a Steelseries Qck+ and both work amazing for SC2.
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I use a claw grip and I am pretty comfortable with my Razer DiamondBack 3g. Reasonably priced at 49.95 + Shipping. Had it for a little over 2 years. Unfortunately it's starting to wear down, and the 2 year warranty is void now. Sensitivity is great on a soft pad. Might take some time to get use to, but definitely worth its price. It's fairly light, if you don't like heavy mouses and has a 6 foot cord I think. So use to the DPI now I am looking to upgrade to a more sensitive mouse. Overall it's really good for its money, and works great for me!
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Currently using a Razer Copperhead, also been looking to get a new mouse. Use a palm/claw type grip not sure what it's called, and I like larger mouses since I have large hands. Copperhead is a great size for me, and DPI doesn't matter since I think I use the 2nd lowest setting which is like 800, although I've been wanting to increase it but it's too hard to get used to how sensitive it is.
Also, why do you guys need such huge mousepads? I bought a small razer goliathus and it's fine, do you guys really need more than a foot of width to move the mouse around? I barely move the mouse at all, maybe 3 inches left and right max. Why do people get gigantic mousepads?
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Ive been using a G9X for a couple days now and it feels so much better then any razer/steelseries i have dumped money into. However it comes down to personal preference really, alot of people love the deathadder and i hated it along with my brother who owned one.
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Currently using the logitech g500 + steelseries qck. I prefer logitech for mice, but again this is all preference. I was skeptical of "gaming" mouse pads versus the old one I had, but after I got the qck it made a noticeable difference. Much smoother and more precise to use.
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Does anyone know where I can find the Diamondback. I couldn't find it on newegg and the razer site doesn't produce them anymore I think.
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If they still produce the Copperhead it is essentially identical in shape and all the performance issues should be ironed out by now.
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nah they don't produce the copperhead anymore either.
anyone know where i can get the copperhead or diamondback. those look perfect in shape for me...
or any other mouse that are similar?
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In my experience, it's not the mouse that matters, it's the person using the mouse. Find a mouse you like, it doesn't have to be some super awesome mouse that cost you loads of cash. Just find a mouse that works and use it.
Here are some things to consider when making your purchase: -Weight (A lot of people prefer heavy mice, just preference) -DPI switching (More useful in FPS and general web browsing than RTS, IMO) -Laser vs optical (http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10166_7-6419059-1.html) -Buttons (You don't need more than 5, if you're using this for RTS and basic web browsing and such) -Shape (Just depends on how you hold the mouse) -Price -Corded (Wireless = batteries, slight delay in reaction time)
Go look around Newegg or Tigerdirect, sort by price. I highly doubt there's anything designed specifically for FPS or RTS. The most specialized mouse on the market, IMO is the Razer mouse than has 15 thumb buttons o whatever. It's great for WoW but totally obnoxious for anything else.
I tend to play FPS, RTS and MMORPGS, and the Microsoft Sidewinder X5 has been pretty good for me (Sidewinder's been great to me, still can play FPS on a competitive level). After using different mousepads, I haven't felt enough of a difference to justify the purchase of a "gaming" mousepad. The only thing I really look for at this point is the texture. Can't stand the ones that feel all plastic-y. You don't need a giant freakin' mousepad either. That's what DPI switching is for.
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I personally use a CM Storm Inferno
![[image loading]](http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2010/08/cm-storm-inferno-review/cm-storm-inferno-2l.jpg)
I love it, all the buttons are customisable, pretty standard however you have DPI control and also profile switching (up to 4 different mouse profiles i think) I have one for each race and one for FPS, very nice
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On December 05 2010 06:22 logankoester wrote:![[image loading]](http://aphnetworks.com/review/logitech_g9/007.JPG) Very happy with my Logitech G9 configured at full weight with the scroll wheel locked. One thing to consider is that the 1.2 patch will allow us to map a mouse button to Push-To-Talk, so while for the most part any mouse will do, it can be handy to have at least one extra button besides the wheel.
I use this and its pretty amazing, compared to my 6 year old $5 HP Ball mouse that I used. The custom grip and removable weights makes it worth ur while.
Its kinda expensive but I bought it a $50 from a guy who just used it for 2 months. Pretty good deal I suppose!
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I love the design of the Deathadder but it's just so damn big that I had to skip out on it. I use to use an MX518 during the CS days but I've stopped palming and went into using fingertip grip (which is impossible on the Deathadder for my hands). I've been using tiny Logitech mice until I had gotten and Abyssus which is perfect.
And I'd also up the QcK, so good. Had the + a long time ago and it was huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.
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[QUOTE]On December 05 2010 07:21 Krasso wrote: Mx518 [img]http://www.dodatnaoprema.com/images/2740/misevi_logitech_kompjuter19.jpg[/img]
This is the mouse I use also, and it works great for me. Got it for 10 bucks new on ksl.
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I personally use a Razer Mamba. Anything Razer works well for Claw Grip. My friend has a Razer Naga, the one with 17 total buttons, apparently it works well for his Micro and Macro since everything is on the thumb for him now, which gives him more manageability. I personally love my Mamba because I enjoy the weight and the fact that it's wireless, which is a big plus for me. It is shaped like the DeathAdder. The Naga is thinner, but a bit taller, still works well for claw gripping, which me and my friend both do.
Also, for a mousepad, I have a Razer Goliathus Control edition. I also have a speed edition, depends on how I feel that day really.
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I also recommend the salmosa with a qck mouse-pad and Qsenn dt-35 keyboard :p
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On December 05 2010 15:06 twotimes wrote: I also recommend the salmosa with a qck mouse-pad and Qsenn dt-35 keyboard :p
That is a good mouse, as far as a keyboard is concerned, I suggest something mechanical like the Steelseries 6G or Razer Black Widow. Mechanical is better because of tactile feedback and the potential to register every single key at once theoretically.
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Currently using a Razer Imperator with a destructor mousepad. Pretty nice combo, the imperator is very comfortable. I must say though, I always have liked my old copperhead.
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There is plenty of good mice to choose from. Razer/Logitech and etc are all good. As having been someone who has used around 15 different mice over the last 10 years I would consider myself decently knowledgeable. Razer mice are a bit over prices but more importantly have alot of useless stats that are gloated about by Razer. Trust me you don't need 1600+ DPI. The main reason I will never get another Razer mouse is because of or rather lack there of durability. My razer mouse broken in about 4 months of Iccup usage.
As far as mouse suggestion: MX 518. This mouse lasts longer than the rest I've tried. Spend your money on a good keyboard/mouse pad. Mouse pads last years and as just as important as the mouse.
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On December 05 2010 12:30 SirDuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well. ![[image loading]](http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/razer-deathadder1.jpg?w=300) Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion: ![[image loading]](http://images.shopping.indiatimes.com/images/product/102606_SNRAMA-301_pbilimage1.jpg) Totally Agree. I have the Dethadder, as well as a Steelseries Qck+ and both work amazing for SC2.
I've been using this mouse (Razer Deathadder 3.5) since phase 2 of the beta and have had no issues whatsoever with it, I think its a little large but you get used to that fairly quickly. I honestly dont think the mouse ever matters because even InflowMini aka Minigun has said that he uses a 10 dollar mouse even though he has an expensive logitech gaming mouse, I think just make sure its not some old rolling ball mouse and you'll be fine Hope this helps.
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Recently my razermouse broke. Now I have a Roccat Kone+ and I'm amazed by it's precision. Just feels great and glides over the surface very smoothly.
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Was using a Logitech MX610... but it died to the point where I couldn't click and drag and sometimes it'd randomly double click instead of single click. Just bought a Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 v2.0. Bit chunky but feels good. Missing my volume controls on my mouse tho Before the logitech I used an Intellimouse explorer but that was mostly for FPS.
Mousepad... well, the one I got free with my WoW:BC SE lol. I don't fancy shelling out money for a mouse pad atm.
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Deathadder, but most equal size or smaller Razer mice will be just fine too as long as it's not laser and not a copperhead.
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On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well. ![[image loading]](http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/razer-deathadder1.jpg?w=300) Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion: ![[image loading]](http://images.shopping.indiatimes.com/images/product/102606_SNRAMA-301_pbilimage1.jpg)
I have this same setup
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![[image loading]](http://www.logitech.com/assets/15994/15994.png)
I used to use the Optical Microsoft mouse seen in an earlier post.
G500 is the one I recently got. One thing to note from this change is that the G500 is much heavier and this is without the weights they give you. This created fatigue for sure until I got used to it. I actually have my optical mouse next to me and everytime I touch the optical after using the G500, I always notice a huge difference in weight.
Besides that, the more ergonomic-ness of the G500 is nicer and bigger for my hand. I enjoy using the fast scroll wheel for fun. I don't use any of the side buttons except when going back and forth through webpages. This is pretty big for me because I usually did backspace to go back but I don't believe they have a keyboard key for forward.
The grip is awesome. The black you see on the sides is a rough surface to help you keep your grip. The top is smooth but you don't grip the top anyway. And every button is easy to click.
Gameplay-wise, nothing has changed honestly. If anything, I have become a better player but that is debatable.
Btw, anyone know if increasing the weight of your mouse is bad for your hand? I would assume it just makes your hand/wrist stronger but I couldn't find any info on this.
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Setup for me but I'm switching to R.A.T. 7 soon.
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Hahaha, that 'mouse' looks like some abomination out of some old horror movie, but worse. I mean, no doubt it's one of the best mouses around but the eye wants something as well. Not that you constantly have to look at your mouse but damn...
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Logitech MX518 all the way :D
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using the roccat kone ....
for rts and shooter games .... just make sure the mouse fits to your hand and practice with it. no need to buy this and this mouse to get better.... u can use every mouse which is out there...
![[image loading]](http://www.kd-gaming.eu/gws/upload/media/kone.jpg)
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my old razer krait works like charm ^^
![[image loading]](http://freemarket.kiev.ua/images_goods/Razer/Razer-Krait-USB.jpg)
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I might be dirty and mix and match brands ( to me thats dirty ).
Thinking of the logitech keyboard with the LCD display, and the Razer SCII mouse.
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I used to use the Razer Naga which i bought about a year and a half ago until it broke around 5 months ago to no apparent reason, therefore i stopped using Razer mice and switched to Logitech!.
Right now I'm using the Logitech G5 with a Razer Destructor mouse pad, i recommend the G5 it's such a good mouse!.
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I have an original mouse ball boomslang that still works ( razer ). That's at least 8+ years old .
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On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well. ![[image loading]](http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/razer-deathadder1.jpg?w=300) Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion: ![[image loading]](http://images.shopping.indiatimes.com/images/product/102606_SNRAMA-301_pbilimage1.jpg)
I'm planning to buy this mouse and pad. Can someone confirm that palm grip works well with this mouse? Ty.
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On December 10 2010 15:58 Liha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well. ![[image loading]](http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/razer-deathadder1.jpg?w=300) Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion: ![[image loading]](http://images.shopping.indiatimes.com/images/product/102606_SNRAMA-301_pbilimage1.jpg) I'm planning to buy this mouse and pad. Can someone confirm that palm grip works well with this mouse? Ty.
I recently just upgraded to the Razer DeathAdder and Steelseries QCK combo as well. Amazing feel, the mouse just glides on the pad.
I'm not a palm grip user myself (I prefer to claw), but after trying to work with it to get a feel I think that you might like it. It's very comfy and is built with ergonomics in mind.
If you've got a Best Buy or other sort of electronic store nearby, your best bet would be to go there and see if you like the fit of the mouse on your hand. The best mice are usually the ones that you feel most comfortable with.
For me, the DeathAdder and the QCK make an awesome combination.
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been going strong with my Logitech MX518 since 2006
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On December 10 2010 15:58 Liha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well. ![[image loading]](http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/razer-deathadder1.jpg?w=300) Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion: ![[image loading]](http://images.shopping.indiatimes.com/images/product/102606_SNRAMA-301_pbilimage1.jpg) I'm planning to buy this mouse and pad. Can someone confirm that palm grip works well with this mouse? Ty.
Oh god does palm grip work well with this mouse. I have uber palm grip and needed something to fit that style. This mouse is great for it.
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Thinking about buying an Abyssus, but Im worried about it breaking after 3 4 months. I wish I had another new G3...
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I got my logitech g9x yesterday and i love using it with the fingertip grip. But i'm easily impress because i used an old logitech mini optical that i took when my school throw it away. Some people say that its heavy but the friction still feels very low and i would defintly recommend the mice.
But it all really comes down the personal preferance so just go to a store were they let you test mice and see what you like. I think that its more important that the grip fits you rather than having an extra good sensor.
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On December 10 2010 17:03 CaiSter wrote:been going strong with my Logitech MX518 since 2006 ![[image loading]](http://static.scan.co.uk/Images/Products/191488-a.jpg)
This mouse is a pain in the ass to get used to, but pretty good once you do get used to it. I guess me using a notebook mouse for 2 years made it difficult getting used to a full sized mouse.
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krait/abyssus/salmosa is where its at for sc II imo...
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All the way. i would put my trustfunds on that one. btw another good mouse:
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On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well. ![[image loading]](http://www.komplettblog.ie/wp-content/uploads/razer-deathadder1.jpg?w=300) Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion: ![[image loading]](http://images.shopping.indiatimes.com/images/product/102606_SNRAMA-301_pbilimage1.jpg)
I also use this same setup.
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I've tried about half a dozen 60$+ mouse and my favorite is really the salmosa.
It's small and light, allow you to move it faster on your pad
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i wonder why so many ppl use the salmosa when the Abyssus is the improved version of it. Also the shape of the buttons is really awful and they squeak like a rusty door.
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I'm on my second mx518 (dropped the first). I've tried many different mice over the past 4 years and always come back to it.
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Lol, nice I've got the exact same setup. Both are really good imo
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Lots of people like to rag on razer, but the DeathAdder is honestly one of the best mice I've ever used (I've tried other Razer mice like the Abyssus, Lachesis and Imperator). I prefer it to my old Logitech MX518, hands down. It just has the right mix of ergonomic feel (that isn't too constricting or forces a grip) and an excellent sensor. It stays clean easy unless you're a grimy dude.
However, to try out another high end mouse I just bought a Xai
![[image loading]](http://cache-03.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2009/07/steelseriesxai.jpg)
Haven't used it enough to determine preference, but I like it upon first impressions. If after a while I feel it doesn't surpass the DeathAdder (which sets a high bar), I'll sell the Xai and buy the new generation DA.
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Using the Mx510 by Logitech since 2003. It's a heavier mouse I feel compared to others but that's how I like it . It's also really durable. Still going strong after dropping it and spilling it with drinks. But I'm probably going to get a replacement this holiday (for change's sake). Anyone got recommendations for a medium heavy mouse that's cheap?
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On December 11 2010 05:51 c_dragon3 wrote:![[image loading]](http://img.clubic.com/photo/000000E100075469.jpg) Using the Mx510 by Logitech since 2003. It's a heavier mouse I feel compared to others but that's how I like it  . It's also really durable. Still going strong after dropping it and spilling it with drinks. But I'm probably going to get a replacement this holiday (for change's sake). Anyone got recommendations for a medium heavy mouse that's cheap?
Been using this for many years as well.
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I use a DeathAdder and a Razer Mantis mousepad 
I can just recommend it to you, but the deathadder is quite heavy like mx518 - so if you want a light-weight mouse you should try RazerAbyssus or logitech intelli =)
kind regards
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All you will ever need
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On December 11 2010 07:14 insta wrote: RazerAbyssus or logitech intelli =)
this is so wrong 
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i like the g9x... if you play claw grip its really good in my opinion. if you play palm grip take the deathadder.
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Diamondback 3g for me, and I've been recently thinking about trying something else. Deathadder, MX538(or how was it :p), xai, roccat kone and maybe abyssus come to mind. Any thoughts?
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Does anyone have any feed back on the Razer Lachesis?
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On December 13 2010 00:46 Dcamp0308 wrote: Does anyone have any feed back on the Razer Lachesis?
well if ur looking for the mouse with the wierdest shape out there, the lachesis is ur mouse.
srsly... its all about the shape if you like it the sensor of the mouse is fine.
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I use a ball mouse (yah i'm old school) i feel very comfortable with it so i guess so go with what your hands are comfortable with. Logitech make good ball mouse if ur looking for one of these relics
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