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Villain7
Profile Joined November 2010
16 Posts
December 04 2010 21:02 GMT
#1
I've been looking to buy a mouse for a while now and most mice I find are built for FPS which would still work fine in Starcraft, but I'm wondering if there are any mouse that are built for RTS

I'm not the biggest fan of Razer but I would still buy one if I were to get enough recommendations. So if anyone could help me out by narrowing my choices it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Villain.343


P.S. I use a claw grip so I don't really want a mouse that is a rock but I could get used to one that is.
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
December 04 2010 21:05 GMT
#2
I was gonna make a suggestion, but then I saw you use a claw grip.

I know Day[9] uses a claw grip and LOVED the new Razer SC2 mouse... but idk take it with a grain of salt.
Gym, Video Games, Laundry.
TekKpriest
Profile Joined March 2010
308 Posts
December 04 2010 21:05 GMT
#3
pick any you feel comfortable with.

Many gamers use an 4-5 old Logitech Mouse, or the Microsoft Intelli. Others use Razer "High"end products etc.

It all comes down to you.

For Reference i use a Razer Salmosa.
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eMbAh
Profile Joined September 2009
Denmark40 Posts
December 04 2010 21:07 GMT
#4
Salmosa and Abyssus have a really good shape for RTS. It's all about vertical movement in RTS so shape is pretty important so when you make a vertical movement, the mouse won't be in the way making it tiresome in the long run. Similar shapes would be the Logitech mx300/g1/g3 and even the g9x, although it's a little heavy
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
December 04 2010 21:07 GMT
#5
i've noticed that a lot of starcraft players, myself included, use the razer salmosa. it's out of production now so it's tricky to find, but it's a great mouse, and very durable.

but of course, as long as the mouse is good quality, the rest is all personal preference.
Powster
Profile Joined April 2010
United States650 Posts
December 04 2010 21:08 GMT
#6
Any mouse that works.. I thought about getting a really good mouse but then I realized that the mouse doesnt matter much. You controlling the mouse is what matters.. The basic black logitech mouse I think is the best in my opinion.. cheap and lasts long.
lol.Froste
Profile Joined January 2010
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 21:09:56
December 04 2010 21:09 GMT
#7
there have been so many of these thread

my god.

use what you like. there is absolutely no benefit between mouses, it only and ONLY depends on what YOU prefer to use.
Cha1R
Profile Joined November 2010
United States221 Posts
December 04 2010 21:09 GMT
#8
Steel series XAI is my mouse of choice, super comfortable. feels great in game, fast reaction time.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
December 04 2010 21:16 GMT
#9
I use a G5 since a long time and I like it but it just depens on yourself. some like a big mouse some like a small one, some prefer a heavy one etc... go into a shop and take them in the hand and then decide which one you want to buy.
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sicajung
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom297 Posts
December 04 2010 21:17 GMT
#10
deathadder.
MLG_logankoester
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 21:26:49
December 04 2010 21:22 GMT
#11
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Very happy with my Logitech G9 configured at full weight with the scroll wheel locked. One thing to consider is that the 1.2 patch will allow us to map a mouse button to Push-To-Talk, so while for the most part any mouse will do, it can be handy to have at least one extra button besides the wheel.
Qweasdzxc
Profile Joined July 2010
215 Posts
December 04 2010 21:25 GMT
#12
ohlookitsthisthreadagain.jpg

but seriously no one can tell you what the best mouse is. you just have to try them out for yourself. something someone recommend could be a mouse that you would never want to use.

the best bet is to continue using whatever mouse you've been using, unless you have a problem with it
ShangMing
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada106 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 21:30:28
December 04 2010 21:29 GMT
#13
I've been meaning to buy a mouse for a while as well, even though I've had little time for SC2 as of late.

I played against a friend of mine recently who uses a cmstorm brand mouse. It felt extremely comfortable, has removable weights inside it, and adjustable sensitivity with buttons on the mouse. Plus, I believe it goes up to ~5600dpi so you're guaranteed to be safe for the next few years of OS'es that come out. Works well with most games including fps.

The only drawback was that the scroll wheel felt really cheap and delicate, as if I pressed too hard it would break. The mouse itself is priced at around $50, and personally I feel its far more comfortable than the Razer ones, and quite a bit cheaper.

Also, here's the pics:
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Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
December 04 2010 21:34 GMT
#14
I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
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Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
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headies
Profile Joined October 2010
United States63 Posts
December 04 2010 21:42 GMT
#15
I recently did a lot of research on a mouse and am extremely happy with my recent purchase, the Razer Abyssus.

I use claw grip so this mouse is awesome. Very low profile and has a great weight to it. Doesn't have auto correction and the laser is very accurate, with a good mouse pad (which is needed).

No excess buttons, just left, right, and scroll wheel. Has 3 dpi settings that can go to 3500 which is important for SC2 if you play on a high resolution.

I really can't find any flaws with this mouse, except for the top of it is made of some kind of material that feels really nice, but picks up every single fingerprint ever. This might bother some, but I couldn't care less. It is an excellent mouse for gaming and that is all that matters to me.

If you use claw grip you can't go wrong with the Abyssus.
Neltar
Profile Joined December 2010
12 Posts
December 04 2010 21:43 GMT
#16
Yeah the Death Adder is definitely my favorite mouse of all time. The only two draw backs for an RTS game is that its not as good as Razer's other mice if you prefer claw grip. As well as the fact that it is a Razer, which means it's guaranteed to break in 8-12 months if your a hardcore gamer, but in all honesty I keep buying them when they break (even keep a spare) because no mouse can compare with the ergonomic design as well as the relatively light weight compared to other palm grip mice, as recommended above you really need a good mat the get the best out of a Death Adder because the tactile surface of a high end mat will make your palm movements much more accurate as well as mitigate some of the weight factor.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
December 04 2010 21:49 GMT
#17
On December 05 2010 06:09 lol.Froste wrote:
there have been so many of these thread

my god.

use what you like. there is absolutely no benefit between mouses, it only and ONLY depends on what YOU prefer to use.


I wish mods would start auto-banning anyone who makes mouse threads. There have been so many, any information a person would want to know is for sure in one of the threads.

Like, seriously: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=best mouse&t=ct&f=-1&u=&gb=date

OP, please use search next time.
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k20
Profile Joined September 2010
United States342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 21:56:36
December 04 2010 21:55 GMT
#18
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:
I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
[image loading]

Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
[image loading]

I use this mouse too but the one gripe I have with it is that dirt and dust stick to it like a motherfucker. I have to wipe off the glossy sides a lot and I also do wash my hands.
attacknme
Profile Joined July 2009
79 Posts
December 04 2010 21:56 GMT
#19
I use claw grip too and have been using Razor Lachesis for over a few years to play sc and it's been really great. It actually took me like 6 months to get used to its grip, but right now it feels like it's a part of my hand. I use the second lowest dpi setting for sc2 and am very happy with my settings.
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
December 04 2010 21:58 GMT
#20
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:
I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
[image loading]

Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
[image loading]


+1 real good combo
if play random i can't call any race imba?
449
Profile Joined October 2010
United States53 Posts
December 04 2010 21:58 GMT
#21
A "good mouse" is primarily personal preference, and what you're used to.

Also, use the search box.
Widar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 22:02:04
December 04 2010 22:01 GMT
#22
Basic Optical Mouse 1.0A

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It's the best, it has never failed me.
Fake it till you make it
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
December 04 2010 22:05 GMT
#23
On December 05 2010 07:01 Widar wrote:
Basic Optical Mouse 1.0A

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It's the best, it has never failed me.


Agreed. This mouse has served me well for years.
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 22:17:01
December 04 2010 22:14 GMT
#24
Razer Abyssus

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Along with the Steelseries mousepad thats been posted several times, they work amazing together.
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SnowSC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States678 Posts
December 04 2010 22:16 GMT
#25
On December 05 2010 07:14 Enki wrote:
Razer Abysuss

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Along with the Steelseries mousepad thats been posted several times, they work amazing together.

I use this, perfect for me when it comes to sc2. I have a kabuto mousepad
Krasso
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark74 Posts
December 04 2010 22:21 GMT
#26
Mx518
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with
Roccat Taito
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I could aim, but with this thing, i dont have to
SC2Mist
Profile Joined June 2010
United States12 Posts
December 04 2010 22:23 GMT
#27
I use deathadder as well, amazing mouse.
Ashera
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada202 Posts
December 04 2010 22:37 GMT
#28
What's the benifit of having a mousepad like that? Does it really effect how good your mouse works?
Viva la Vida
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 22:54:51
December 04 2010 22:54 GMT
#29
Something small and light, sensors hardly matter at all for rts; half the bw pros have some random 10$ mice.
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Stoles
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey53 Posts
December 04 2010 22:57 GMT
#30
Im not using any Mousepad, is it that important?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 22:59:08
December 04 2010 22:58 GMT
#31
On December 05 2010 07:54 Grebliv wrote:
Something small and light, sensors hardly matter at all for rts; half the bw pros have some random 10$ mice.


it does matter. skipping or massive acceleration are a no-go in any competitive real-time game, no matter if its fps or rts or even something like dota or wow arena.

the reason why bw pros use super old mice is that bw is played in a 640x480 resolution where the ordinary 400 dpi of these old mice are sufficient. sc2 on the other hand is usually played in resolutions of at the very least 1280, so that 400 dpi dont cut it anymore.
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TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
December 04 2010 23:00 GMT
#32
For a claw grip as you mentioned, the razer abyssus gets my vote. The deathadder as people mentioned I would say to stay away from, for a claw grip as you mentioned it is waaaayyy too big and favors a palm grip. I own both of them, the abyssus is definitely a good mouse for rts gaming.
mind1337
Profile Joined April 2010
France107 Posts
December 04 2010 23:00 GMT
#33
I use a Razer Diamondback with a func mousepad.
Kelsin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States253 Posts
December 04 2010 23:01 GMT
#34
On December 05 2010 06:09 Cha1R wrote:
Steel series XAI is my mouse of choice, super comfortable. feels great in game, fast reaction time.


Definitely seconded. I love my Xai
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
December 04 2010 23:03 GMT
#35
On December 05 2010 07:57 Stoles wrote:
Im not using any Mousepad, is it that important?


mouse pointer is more smooth and precise. It is also quieter with a mouse pad. No running the mouse over a hard surface.

I don't know why people don't use them. I always see people using their mouse only on the desk and the pointer jots everywhere and it's real noisy.

if play random i can't call any race imba?
Draknishar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 01:25:09
December 04 2010 23:04 GMT
#36
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Razer mamba. :D
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MrNuby
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden40 Posts
December 04 2010 23:05 GMT
#37
Having used ALOT of mice, almost all so far recommended, I definately feel that Xai is the best one for me. It works with both a claw grip and a regular rested hand on it and I've yet to experience any problems that a cotton Q-tip to the laser couldn't solve.

I do recommend you going to a local store and gripping a few different ones there though as I do not know what you feel comfortable with.
Valestrum
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States246 Posts
December 04 2010 23:08 GMT
#38
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:
I use a Razer Deathadder,
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Same here never had any problems with my Deathadder except for the fact it's a dirt magnet.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
December 04 2010 23:09 GMT
#39
On December 05 2010 06:22 logankoester wrote:
[image loading]

Very happy with my Logitech G9 configured at full weight with the scroll wheel locked. One thing to consider is that the 1.2 patch will allow us to map a mouse button to Push-To-Talk, so while for the most part any mouse will do, it can be handy to have at least one extra button besides the wheel.


I've been using the G9x for around 4 months and it is brilliant. There really is nothing bad to say about it except the price. However, if you're willing to shell out some cash on a quality product, i definitely recommend this.
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Ryka
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-04 23:12:34
December 04 2010 23:12 GMT
#40
Currently using a razer diamondback 3g myself. Would love to give the new Spectre SC2 mouse a try with it's super high dpi and similar shape/size to the diamondback.

If you really dislike razer maybe the logitech MX518 would be a good choice.

Edit: forgot to mention I play with claw grip as well.
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
December 04 2010 23:12 GMT
#41
I use a Kensignton mouse.. Didn't really have any other mouse to use so I found this one in my house it's GREAT! I love it and it's great! I may not have any top of the line mouses that most people do. But if you love to play starcraft 2. This mouse is amazing ! In my honest opinion haven't tried any other mouse though...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Day[9} <3
cartofu
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania16 Posts
December 04 2010 23:20 GMT
#42
On December 05 2010 07:57 Stoles wrote:
Im not using any Mousepad, is it that important?

Yes, it's as important as the mouse, a good mousepad such as the Steelseries QcK changes the way you percieve movement.
I've bought a Cyborg R.A.T. 7, and used it 2 days without a mousepad, it was horrible, but after I paired it with the QcK it just floates, it really improves the precision, the movement, everything basically.

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Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
December 04 2010 23:21 GMT
#43
Using a Razer Destructor Mousepad, with a Steelseries Ikari Laser. I have brought my setup to the lan center I frequent, very often, and all of the other customers love my setup. It's super accurate, it feels light, ergonomic, and efficient. Have a Steelseries 7g for the keyboard as well since I love the wristguard for it.
srsly
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
December 04 2010 23:25 GMT
#44
you need all the razor APM technology in order to become good
Marines > everything
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
December 04 2010 23:27 GMT
#45
There are hundreds of these threads already.

That's actually getting pretty close to a literal statement.
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Arn
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden118 Posts
December 04 2010 23:31 GMT
#46
[image loading]

Raze DeathAdder. It's perfect, but then again it's the first gaming mouse I bought. But I'm so glad I did, it really improved my ability to use the mouse effectively and comfortably. I'll also attach my personal "mouseholding-preference", as that differs. I'm not a "claw" type of guy.

Mouse holding position
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Dagon
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania264 Posts
December 04 2010 23:31 GMT
#47
On December 05 2010 08:20 cartofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 07:57 Stoles wrote:
Im not using any Mousepad, is it that important?

Yes, it's as important as the mouse, a good mousepad such as the Steelseries QcK changes the way you percieve movement.
I've bought a Cyborg R.A.T. 7, and used it 2 days without a mousepad, it was horrible, but after I paired it with the QcK it just floates, it really improves the precision, the movement, everything basically.

[image loading]



What the fuck îs that ABOMINATION?

P.S. More than meets the eye..

I also have a question. I use a wireless MX1000 laser mouse and i really like that 500 pounds rock.. But a lot of people say that wireless îs bad. Why îs that? Do you REALLY percive the couple nanoseconds of delay because the signal travels with less than 300km/s for a distance of 20 cm? I don't..
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
December 04 2010 23:35 GMT
#48
Deathadder > Salmosa IMO, but I have pretty big hands so that may be why.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
December 04 2010 23:47 GMT
#49
This threads been opened an uncountable number of times...

a quick search leads to many threads for your perusal..: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=mouse
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Regstata
Profile Joined October 2010
United States207 Posts
December 05 2010 00:11 GMT
#50
So many deathadders! I too have one and prefer it over the Logitech MX518
mineraahhhllllllsss
shinogi
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom45 Posts
December 05 2010 00:24 GMT
#51
TBH, just get a razer. they are comfortable, very accurate and work great.

I have a diamond back and a razer destructor gaming surface (aka a large mouse mat )
majestouch
Profile Joined December 2010
United States395 Posts
December 05 2010 00:37 GMT
#52
what ever mouse feels best to you, your question is relative it would be like saying "what is the best food in the world?" well that is completely relative to the person, i strongly advise re-wording your question to something like "what mouse do you use and why do u like it etc, and ask for polling rates etc".

ontopic: i use a logitech g500, feels pretty nice, 3 buttons on side if you wana use em as control grps (if you wana do this gotta edit their function in logitech setpoint) for no point rly. scroll locked ofc, also there you can change sensitivity of mouse on the go (5settings). the feet on the mouse are better than most other logitech mouses.
majestouch
Profile Joined December 2010
United States395 Posts
December 05 2010 00:38 GMT
#53
On December 05 2010 08:25 vnlegend wrote:
you need all the razor APM technology in order to become good

you mean like the keyboard that blinks dif color lights based on your apm?
Lacunaa
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium12 Posts
December 05 2010 01:02 GMT
#54
On December 05 2010 08:31 Dagon wrote:
I also have a question. I use a wireless MX1000 laser mouse and i really like that 500 pounds rock.. But a lot of people say that wireless îs bad. Why îs that? Do you REALLY percive the couple nanoseconds of delay because the signal travels with less than 300km/s for a distance of 20 cm? I don't..


I switched from a mx1000 to a Razer Abyssus and the difference is huge imo. I guess the precision is fine but once you get a very light mouse like the Abyssus and get used to it, it feels so much better. It's the same with all these discussions, having a better mouse won't magicly make you better but it can give you a small edge and most importantly make it more enjoyable to play.
Hatsu
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom474 Posts
December 05 2010 01:38 GMT
#55
I love my Razer Salmosa
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RiGun
Profile Joined February 2010
Argentina155 Posts
December 05 2010 01:44 GMT
#56
I've used to have a Logitech MX300, but 400 wasn't enough for SC2 so I switched to an A4Tech X7, cheap high DPI mouse, the tracker is horrible and has very bad movement prediction, used it for two months and had to stop playing Quake Live with it because it was unbearable, for SC2 it was decent but in the end I got a Razer Death Adder and while I'm not a fan of the shape the mouse is really good, I claw grip and stabilize the mouse with a single point of my palm on the back of the mouse, the DA is decent to use with claw grip but it's too heavy to play for long periods.

I've heard the Salmosa was very good but after researching about the mouse I've found that it has movement prediction and I literally hate that, maybe I'll aim for an Abyssus or a Logitech G9x if I can afford one, the Xai seems like a good mouse but I can't find anyplace in my country that has one on display to test, does anyone know if it works with claw grip?

I wish Logitech would still make a mouse shaped as the MX300/G1/G3, I can't understand why they discontinued that model, it was really good.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
December 05 2010 01:52 GMT
#57
I love my G5. Too bad it's been discontinued...

G500 and MX518 seem similar enough, though. I'll probably move on to one when my G5 dies, if that ever happens. I've had it for an absurdly long time now (4+ years) with zero complaints.
Baz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom289 Posts
December 05 2010 02:50 GMT
#58
Love my MX518, and it costs like half the price of the competition. Can't go wrong really, unless money is not an issue for you
phamou
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada193 Posts
December 05 2010 03:14 GMT
#59
On December 05 2010 08:20 cartofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 07:57 Stoles wrote:
Im not using any Mousepad, is it that important?

Yes, it's as important as the mouse, a good mousepad such as the Steelseries QcK changes the way you percieve movement.
I've bought a Cyborg R.A.T. 7, and used it 2 days without a mousepad, it was horrible, but after I paired it with the QcK it just floates, it really improves the precision, the movement, everything basically.

[image loading]


wtf is that? a transformer? lol
Gigazing
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia15 Posts
December 05 2010 03:23 GMT
#60
Whatever mouse that feels comfortable is the preferred mouse for SC2. I use the G9x because it rests my hand in a very natural position which prevents carpel tunnel. Gaming mice arent really worth the money when it comes to RTS because you can't use macros legally in tourneys and such. FPS and RPGs on the other hand are where they shine.
SirDuke
Profile Joined October 2010
United States239 Posts
December 05 2010 03:30 GMT
#61
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:
I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
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Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
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Totally Agree. I have the Dethadder, as well as a Steelseries Qck+ and both work amazing for SC2.
Wanna turn up the heat?
ieatpasta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States49 Posts
December 05 2010 03:40 GMT
#62
I use a claw grip and I am pretty comfortable with my Razer DiamondBack 3g. Reasonably priced at 49.95 + Shipping. Had it for a little over 2 years. Unfortunately it's starting to wear down, and the 2 year warranty is void now. Sensitivity is great on a soft pad. Might take some time to get use to, but definitely worth its price. It's fairly light, if you don't like heavy mouses and has a 6 foot cord I think. So use to the DPI now I am looking to upgrade to a more sensitive mouse. Overall it's really good for its money, and works great for me!
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 05 2010 03:46 GMT
#63
Currently using a Razer Copperhead, also been looking to get a new mouse. Use a palm/claw type grip not sure what it's called, and I like larger mouses since I have large hands. Copperhead is a great size for me, and DPI doesn't matter since I think I use the 2nd lowest setting which is like 800, although I've been wanting to increase it but it's too hard to get used to how sensitive it is.

Also, why do you guys need such huge mousepads? I bought a small razer goliathus and it's fine, do you guys really need more than a foot of width to move the mouse around? I barely move the mouse at all, maybe 3 inches left and right max. Why do people get gigantic mousepads?
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
December 05 2010 03:51 GMT
#64
Ive been using a G9X for a couple days now and it feels so much better then any razer/steelseries i have dumped money into. However it comes down to personal preference really, alot of people love the deathadder and i hated it along with my brother who owned one.
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Combine
Profile Joined July 2010
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 03:55:36
December 05 2010 03:55 GMT
#65
Currently using the logitech g500 + steelseries qck. I prefer logitech for mice, but again this is all preference. I was skeptical of "gaming" mouse pads versus the old one I had, but after I got the qck it made a noticeable difference. Much smoother and more precise to use.
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Villain7
Profile Joined November 2010
16 Posts
December 05 2010 04:34 GMT
#66
Does anyone know where I can find the Diamondback. I couldn't find it on newegg and the razer site doesn't produce them anymore I think.
kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
December 05 2010 04:47 GMT
#67
If they still produce the Copperhead it is essentially identical in shape and all the performance issues should be ironed out by now.
Like a G6
Villain7
Profile Joined November 2010
16 Posts
December 05 2010 04:52 GMT
#68
nah they don't produce the copperhead anymore either.

anyone know where i can get the copperhead or diamondback. those look perfect in shape for me...

or any other mouse that are similar?
Kitani
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States44 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 04:55:58
December 05 2010 04:55 GMT
#69
In my experience, it's not the mouse that matters, it's the person using the mouse. Find a mouse you like, it doesn't have to be some super awesome mouse that cost you loads of cash. Just find a mouse that works and use it.

Here are some things to consider when making your purchase:
-Weight (A lot of people prefer heavy mice, just preference)
-DPI switching (More useful in FPS and general web browsing than RTS, IMO)
-Laser vs optical (http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10166_7-6419059-1.html)
-Buttons (You don't need more than 5, if you're using this for RTS and basic web browsing and such)
-Shape (Just depends on how you hold the mouse)
-Price
-Corded (Wireless = batteries, slight delay in reaction time)

Go look around Newegg or Tigerdirect, sort by price. I highly doubt there's anything designed specifically for FPS or RTS. The most specialized mouse on the market, IMO is the Razer mouse than has 15 thumb buttons o whatever. It's great for WoW but totally obnoxious for anything else.

I tend to play FPS, RTS and MMORPGS, and the Microsoft Sidewinder X5 has been pretty good for me (Sidewinder's been great to me, still can play FPS on a competitive level). After using different mousepads, I haven't felt enough of a difference to justify the purchase of a "gaming" mousepad. The only thing I really look for at this point is the texture. Can't stand the ones that feel all plastic-y. You don't need a giant freakin' mousepad either. That's what DPI switching is for.
Happy Ultralisk
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
December 05 2010 04:59 GMT
#70
I personally use a CM Storm Inferno

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I love it, all the buttons are customisable, pretty standard however you have DPI control and also profile switching (up to 4 different mouse profiles i think) I have one for each race and one for FPS, very nice
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
December 05 2010 05:05 GMT
#71
On December 05 2010 06:22 logankoester wrote:
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Very happy with my Logitech G9 configured at full weight with the scroll wheel locked. One thing to consider is that the 1.2 patch will allow us to map a mouse button to Push-To-Talk, so while for the most part any mouse will do, it can be handy to have at least one extra button besides the wheel.


I use this and its pretty amazing, compared to my 6 year old $5 HP Ball mouse that I used. The custom grip and removable weights makes it worth ur while.

Its kinda expensive but I bought it a $50 from a guy who just used it for 2 months. Pretty good deal I suppose!
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
reprise
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada316 Posts
December 05 2010 05:48 GMT
#72
I love the design of the Deathadder but it's just so damn big that I had to skip out on it. I use to use an MX518 during the CS days but I've stopped palming and went into using fingertip grip (which is impossible on the Deathadder for my hands). I've been using tiny Logitech mice until I had gotten and Abyssus which is perfect.

And I'd also up the QcK, so good. Had the + a long time ago and it was huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.
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Mute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
December 05 2010 05:56 GMT
#73
[QUOTE]On December 05 2010 07:21 Krasso wrote:
Mx518
[img]http://www.dodatnaoprema.com/images/2740/misevi_logitech_kompjuter19.jpg[/img]

This is the mouse I use also, and it works great for me. Got it for 10 bucks new on ksl.
Creegz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada354 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 06:01:26
December 05 2010 05:59 GMT
#74
I personally use a Razer Mamba. Anything Razer works well for Claw Grip. My friend has a Razer Naga, the one with 17 total buttons, apparently it works well for his Micro and Macro since everything is on the thumb for him now, which gives him more manageability. I personally love my Mamba because I enjoy the weight and the fact that it's wireless, which is a big plus for me. It is shaped like the DeathAdder. The Naga is thinner, but a bit taller, still works well for claw gripping, which me and my friend both do.

Also, for a mousepad, I have a Razer Goliathus Control edition. I also have a speed edition, depends on how I feel that day really.
Who is this guy? ^
twotimes
Profile Joined September 2010
United States22 Posts
December 05 2010 06:06 GMT
#75
I also recommend the salmosa with a qck mouse-pad and Qsenn dt-35 keyboard :p
Creegz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada354 Posts
December 05 2010 06:29 GMT
#76
On December 05 2010 15:06 twotimes wrote:
I also recommend the salmosa with a qck mouse-pad and Qsenn dt-35 keyboard :p


That is a good mouse, as far as a keyboard is concerned, I suggest something mechanical like the Steelseries 6G or Razer Black Widow. Mechanical is better because of tactile feedback and the potential to register every single key at once theoretically.
Who is this guy? ^
MaxwelsDemoN
Profile Joined September 2010
57 Posts
December 05 2010 06:30 GMT
#77
Currently using a Razer Imperator with a destructor mousepad. Pretty nice combo, the imperator is very comfortable. I must say though, I always have liked my old copperhead.
Sanasante
Profile Joined March 2010
United States321 Posts
December 05 2010 08:08 GMT
#78
There is plenty of good mice to choose from. Razer/Logitech and etc are all good. As having been someone who has used around 15 different mice over the last 10 years I would consider myself decently knowledgeable. Razer mice are a bit over prices but more importantly have alot of useless stats that are gloated about by Razer. Trust me you don't need 1600+ DPI. The main reason I will never get another Razer mouse is because of or rather lack there of durability. My razer mouse broken in about 4 months of Iccup usage.

As far as mouse suggestion: MX 518. This mouse lasts longer than the rest I've tried. Spend your money on a good keyboard/mouse pad. Mouse pads last years and as just as important as the mouse.
It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 08:15:54
December 05 2010 08:14 GMT
#79
On December 05 2010 12:30 SirDuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:
I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
[image loading]

Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
[image loading]


Totally Agree. I have the Dethadder, as well as a Steelseries Qck+ and both work amazing for SC2.


I've been using this mouse (Razer Deathadder 3.5) since phase 2 of the beta and have had no issues whatsoever with it, I think its a little large but you get used to that fairly quickly. I honestly dont think the mouse ever matters because even InflowMini aka Minigun has said that he uses a 10 dollar mouse even though he has an expensive logitech gaming mouse, I think just make sure its not some old rolling ball mouse and you'll be fine Hope this helps.
TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
December 05 2010 09:35 GMT
#80
Recently my razermouse broke. Now I have a Roccat Kone+ and I'm amazed by it's precision. Just feels great and glides over the surface very smoothly.
Gingerninja
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1339 Posts
December 05 2010 10:03 GMT
#81
Was using a Logitech MX610... but it died to the point where I couldn't click and drag and sometimes it'd randomly double click instead of single click.
Just bought a Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 v2.0. Bit chunky but feels good. Missing my volume controls on my mouse tho
Before the logitech I used an Intellimouse explorer but that was mostly for FPS.

Mousepad... well, the one I got free with my WoW:BC SE lol. I don't fancy shelling out money for a mouse pad atm.
戦いの中に答えはある
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
December 05 2010 10:10 GMT
#82
Deathadder, but most equal size or smaller Razer mice will be just fine too as long as it's not laser and not a copperhead.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Legat0
Profile Joined October 2010
United States318 Posts
December 05 2010 10:11 GMT
#83
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:
I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
[image loading]

Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
[image loading]


I have this same setup
uNtrue_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 10:24:37
December 05 2010 10:18 GMT
#84
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I used to use the Optical Microsoft mouse seen in an earlier post.

G500 is the one I recently got. One thing to note from this change is that the G500 is much heavier and this is without the weights they give you. This created fatigue for sure until I got used to it. I actually have my optical mouse next to me and everytime I touch the optical after using the G500, I always notice a huge difference in weight.

Besides that, the more ergonomic-ness of the G500 is nicer and bigger for my hand. I enjoy using the fast scroll wheel for fun. I don't use any of the side buttons except when going back and forth through webpages. This is pretty big for me because I usually did backspace to go back but I don't believe they have a keyboard key for forward.

The grip is awesome. The black you see on the sides is a rough surface to help you keep your grip. The top is smooth but you don't grip the top anyway. And every button is easy to click.

Gameplay-wise, nothing has changed honestly. If anything, I have become a better player but that is debatable.

Btw, anyone know if increasing the weight of your mouse is bad for your hand? I would assume it just makes your hand/wrist stronger but I couldn't find any info on this.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
December 05 2010 10:33 GMT
#85
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Setup for me but I'm switching to R.A.T. 7 soon.

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There's no S in KT. :P
gonkulator
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
10 Posts
December 05 2010 10:40 GMT
#86
Hahaha, that 'mouse' looks like some abomination out of some old horror movie, but worse. I mean, no doubt it's one of the best mouses around but the eye wants something as well. Not that you constantly have to look at your mouse but damn...
Tristy
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway172 Posts
December 05 2010 10:59 GMT
#87
Logitech MX518 all the way :D
"Choose life!"
Utopianer
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany19 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 11:12:54
December 05 2010 11:11 GMT
#88
using the roccat kone ....

for rts and shooter games .... just make sure the mouse fits to your hand and practice with it.
no need to buy this and this mouse to get better.... u can use every mouse which is out there...

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edit: added the picture
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 11:16:07
December 05 2010 11:13 GMT
#89
my old razer krait works like charm ^^

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edit: added the picture
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
December 05 2010 11:24 GMT
#90
I might be dirty and mix and match brands ( to me thats dirty ).

Thinking of the logitech keyboard with the LCD display, and the Razer SCII mouse.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
PaPoolee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands660 Posts
December 05 2010 11:29 GMT
#91
I used to use the Razer Naga which i bought about a year and a half ago until it broke around 5 months ago to no apparent reason, therefore i stopped using Razer mice and switched to Logitech!.

Right now I'm using the Logitech G5 with a Razer Destructor mouse pad, i recommend the G5 it's such a good mouse!.
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
December 05 2010 11:35 GMT
#92
I have an original mouse ball boomslang that still works ( razer ). That's at least 8+ years old .
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Liha
Profile Joined October 2010
26 Posts
December 10 2010 06:58 GMT
#93
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:
I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
[image loading]

Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
[image loading]


I'm planning to buy this mouse and pad. Can someone confirm that palm grip works well with this mouse? Ty.
sawedust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
December 10 2010 07:15 GMT
#94
On December 10 2010 15:58 Liha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:
I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
[image loading]

Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
[image loading]


I'm planning to buy this mouse and pad. Can someone confirm that palm grip works well with this mouse? Ty.


I recently just upgraded to the Razer DeathAdder and Steelseries QCK combo as well. Amazing feel, the mouse just glides on the pad.

I'm not a palm grip user myself (I prefer to claw), but after trying to work with it to get a feel I think that you might like it. It's very comfy and is built with ergonomics in mind.

If you've got a Best Buy or other sort of electronic store nearby, your best bet would be to go there and see if you like the fit of the mouse on your hand. The best mice are usually the ones that you feel most comfortable with.

For me, the DeathAdder and the QCK make an awesome combination.
CaiSter
Profile Joined April 2010
United States29 Posts
December 10 2010 08:03 GMT
#95
been going strong with my Logitech MX518 since 2006

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Encrypto
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
December 10 2010 08:13 GMT
#96
On December 10 2010 15:58 Liha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:
I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
[image loading]

Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
[image loading]


I'm planning to buy this mouse and pad. Can someone confirm that palm grip works well with this mouse? Ty.




Oh god does palm grip work well with this mouse. I have uber palm grip and needed something to fit that style. This mouse is great for it.
Faraday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States553 Posts
December 10 2010 08:14 GMT
#97
Thinking about buying an Abyssus, but Im worried about it breaking after 3 4 months.
I wish I had another new G3...
what happened, happened...
Zynxz
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden13 Posts
December 10 2010 08:21 GMT
#98
I got my logitech g9x yesterday and i love using it with the fingertip grip. But i'm easily impress because i used an old logitech mini optical that i took when my school throw it away. Some people say that its heavy but the friction still feels very low and i would defintly recommend the mice.

But it all really comes down the personal preferance so just go to a store were they let you test mice and see what you like. I think that its more important that the grip fits you rather than having an extra good sensor.
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 13:26:09
December 10 2010 13:16 GMT
#99
On December 10 2010 17:03 CaiSter wrote:
been going strong with my Logitech MX518 since 2006

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This mouse is a pain in the ass to get used to, but pretty good once you do get used to it. I guess me using a notebook mouse for 2 years made it difficult getting used to a full sized mouse.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 13:35:25
December 10 2010 13:35 GMT
#100
krait/abyssus/salmosa is where its at for sc II imo...
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
Falcon_NL
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands236 Posts
December 10 2010 14:20 GMT
#101
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All the way.
i would put my trustfunds on that one.
btw another good mouse:
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and its a BLACK HOLE !! OH MY GOD BLACK HOOOOLEEE - Tobi Wan
Cadgers
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States514 Posts
December 10 2010 15:29 GMT
#102
On December 05 2010 06:34 Fission wrote:
I use a Razer Deathadder, it's very comfortable on the hand, durable, and tracks well.
[image loading]

Don't forget a good mousepad! The Steelseries qck mousepads go well with the Razer in my opinion:
[image loading]


I also use this same setup.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
December 10 2010 15:57 GMT
#103
I've tried about half a dozen 60$+ mouse and my favorite is really the salmosa.

It's small and light, allow you to move it faster on your pad
Brood War is forever
AT_Tack
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany435 Posts
December 10 2010 16:04 GMT
#104
i wonder why so many ppl use the salmosa when the Abyssus is the improved version of it. Also the shape of the buttons is really awful and they squeak like a rusty door.
mikesaysno
Profile Joined July 2010
United States85 Posts
December 10 2010 18:56 GMT
#105
I'm on my second mx518 (dropped the first). I've tried many different mice over the past 4 years and always come back to it.
ReaVU
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden69 Posts
December 10 2010 19:43 GMT
#106
On December 05 2010 07:21 Krasso wrote:
Mx518
+ Show Spoiler +
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with
Roccat Taito
+ Show Spoiler +
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Lol, nice I've got the exact same setup. Both are really good imo
Wat.
Bitters
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada303 Posts
December 10 2010 20:02 GMT
#107
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Lots of people like to rag on razer, but the DeathAdder is honestly one of the best mice I've ever used (I've tried other Razer mice like the Abyssus, Lachesis and Imperator). I prefer it to my old Logitech MX518, hands down. It just has the right mix of ergonomic feel (that isn't too constricting or forces a grip) and an excellent sensor. It stays clean easy unless you're a grimy dude.

However, to try out another high end mouse I just bought a Xai

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Haven't used it enough to determine preference, but I like it upon first impressions. If after a while I feel it doesn't surpass the DeathAdder (which sets a high bar), I'll sell the Xai and buy the new generation DA.
c_dragon3
Profile Joined September 2010
22 Posts
December 10 2010 20:51 GMT
#108
[image loading]

Using the Mx510 by Logitech since 2003. It's a heavier mouse I feel compared to others but that's how I like it . It's also really durable. Still going strong after dropping it and spilling it with drinks. But I'm probably going to get a replacement this holiday (for change's sake). Anyone got recommendations for a medium heavy mouse that's cheap?
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
December 10 2010 21:55 GMT
#109
On December 11 2010 05:51 c_dragon3 wrote:
[image loading]

Using the Mx510 by Logitech since 2003. It's a heavier mouse I feel compared to others but that's how I like it . It's also really durable. Still going strong after dropping it and spilling it with drinks. But I'm probably going to get a replacement this holiday (for change's sake). Anyone got recommendations for a medium heavy mouse that's cheap?


Been using this for many years as well.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
insta
Profile Joined May 2010
216 Posts
December 10 2010 22:14 GMT
#110
I use a DeathAdder and a Razer Mantis mousepad

I can just recommend it to you, but the deathadder is quite heavy like mx518 - so if you want a light-weight mouse you should try RazerAbyssus or logitech intelli =)

kind regards
pls dont judge before research, pls dont research before thinking
dthree
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia150 Posts
December 10 2010 22:18 GMT
#111
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All you will ever need
AT_Tack
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany435 Posts
December 10 2010 22:38 GMT
#112
On December 11 2010 07:14 insta wrote:
RazerAbyssus or logitech intelli =)


this is so wrong
eXellenty
Profile Joined September 2010
24 Posts
December 11 2010 09:23 GMT
#113
i like the g9x... if you play claw grip its really good in my opinion. if you play palm grip take the deathadder.
Noppoo Choc Mini
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 11 2010 09:37 GMT
#114
Diamondback 3g for me, and I've been recently thinking about trying something else. Deathadder, MX538(or how was it :p), xai, roccat kone and maybe abyssus come to mind. Any thoughts?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Dcamp0308
Profile Joined August 2010
United States87 Posts
December 12 2010 15:46 GMT
#115
Does anyone have any feed back on the Razer Lachesis?
AT_Tack
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany435 Posts
December 12 2010 16:01 GMT
#116
On December 13 2010 00:46 Dcamp0308 wrote:
Does anyone have any feed back on the Razer Lachesis?


well if ur looking for the mouse with the wierdest shape out there, the lachesis is ur mouse.

srsly... its all about the shape if you like it the sensor of the mouse is fine.
lolbolt
Profile Joined November 2010
206 Posts
December 12 2010 16:22 GMT
#117
I use a ball mouse (yah i'm old school) i feel very comfortable with it so i guess so go with what your hands are comfortable with. Logitech make good ball mouse if ur looking for one of these relics
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