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Idmaif
Profile Joined September 2010
United States42 Posts
December 26 2010 02:56 GMT
#261
just a question! and dont bite my head off if it has already been answered in this 13 page thread... but what is the difference between the blackwidow and the blackwidow ultimate? they look pretty much the same and are both mechanical so whats the difference besides cost?
AAHHH PLAGUUU!!! PLAGUU AAAHH!! PLAGUU!! YA PLAGUGUU!!
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
December 26 2010 06:38 GMT
#262
On December 26 2010 11:56 Idmaif wrote:
just a question! and dont bite my head off if it has already been answered in this 13 page thread... but what is the difference between the blackwidow and the blackwidow ultimate? they look pretty much the same and are both mechanical so whats the difference besides cost?


wanna pay $50 more for individual backlighting? THEN GET THE BLACK WIDOW ULTIMATE!!! IT WILL DRAIN YOUR MONEY LIKE WATER DOWN DA DRAIN!

might as well get a filco or a das keyboard
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
December 26 2010 07:05 GMT
#263
got one for christmas and i like it a lot so far :D
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
KneeDeeP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States256 Posts
December 26 2010 19:52 GMT
#264
Can anyone link me a great place to purchase a filco keyboard?
"the virtuous man is content to dream what a wicked man really does"
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
December 26 2010 19:59 GMT
#265
As far as I know you have to buy them from Asian websites and pay massive fees atm. Elitekeyboards will get replacements from the company Leopold soon:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=13258
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
KneeDeeP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States256 Posts
December 26 2010 20:07 GMT
#266
ahh ok thank you
"the virtuous man is content to dream what a wicked man really does"
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
December 26 2010 20:33 GMT
#267
On December 26 2010 15:38 LanTAs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2010 11:56 Idmaif wrote:
just a question! and dont bite my head off if it has already been answered in this 13 page thread... but what is the difference between the blackwidow and the blackwidow ultimate? they look pretty much the same and are both mechanical so whats the difference besides cost?


wanna pay $50 more for individual backlighting? THEN GET THE BLACK WIDOW ULTIMATE!!! IT WILL DRAIN YOUR MONEY LIKE WATER DOWN DA DRAIN!

might as well get a filco or a das keyboard


How about you try being more helpful?

The BW Ultimate has individual backlit keys, the keys are made out of a nicer material, USB and Audio in/out on the side.
SunTzuEU
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden221 Posts
December 26 2010 21:05 GMT
#268
The macro keys just totally ruin this keyboard, can't keyboard manufacturers just realize that we don't want keyboards that look all fancy, we just want a standard keyboard with the good stuff on the inside...

(zowie and steelseries actually seems to have realized this, but yeah, apparently razer didnt.)
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
December 26 2010 21:11 GMT
#269
On December 27 2010 06:05 SunTzuEU wrote:
The macro keys just totally ruin this keyboard, can't keyboard manufacturers just realize that we don't want keyboards that look all fancy, we just want a standard keyboard with the good stuff on the inside...

(zowie and steelseries actually seems to have realized this, but yeah, apparently razer didnt.)


Why exactly do the macro keys ruin the keyboard? I would say more people seem to like the keyboard with the macro keys than don't.
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
December 26 2010 23:03 GMT
#270
On December 27 2010 06:11 holynorth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 06:05 SunTzuEU wrote:
The macro keys just totally ruin this keyboard, can't keyboard manufacturers just realize that we don't want keyboards that look all fancy, we just want a standard keyboard with the good stuff on the inside...

(zowie and steelseries actually seems to have realized this, but yeah, apparently razer didnt.)


Why exactly do the macro keys ruin the keyboard? I would say more people seem to like the keyboard with the macro keys than don't.


I'm assuming because they get in the way for some people and are unnecessary. Also, I will never understand why Razer used a non standard keyboard layout in their highest end product...
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
December 27 2010 01:44 GMT
#271
On December 27 2010 08:03 vek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 06:11 holynorth wrote:
On December 27 2010 06:05 SunTzuEU wrote:
The macro keys just totally ruin this keyboard, can't keyboard manufacturers just realize that we don't want keyboards that look all fancy, we just want a standard keyboard with the good stuff on the inside...

(zowie and steelseries actually seems to have realized this, but yeah, apparently razer didnt.)


Why exactly do the macro keys ruin the keyboard? I would say more people seem to like the keyboard with the macro keys than don't.


I'm assuming because they get in the way for some people and are unnecessary. Also, I will never understand why Razer used a non standard keyboard layout in their highest end product...


Human error is no reason to disregard a product or to say that it "totally ruin(s) this product". And Razer explains their keyboard layout on their page. They backed it up with pretty hefty ergonomic testing, or so they claim.
Absolutionn
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
December 27 2010 01:54 GMT
#272
On December 27 2010 10:44 holynorth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 08:03 vek wrote:
On December 27 2010 06:11 holynorth wrote:
On December 27 2010 06:05 SunTzuEU wrote:
The macro keys just totally ruin this keyboard, can't keyboard manufacturers just realize that we don't want keyboards that look all fancy, we just want a standard keyboard with the good stuff on the inside...

(zowie and steelseries actually seems to have realized this, but yeah, apparently razer didnt.)


Why exactly do the macro keys ruin the keyboard? I would say more people seem to like the keyboard with the macro keys than don't.


I'm assuming because they get in the way for some people and are unnecessary. Also, I will never understand why Razer used a non standard keyboard layout in their highest end product...


Human error is no reason to disregard a product or to say that it "totally ruin(s) this product". And Razer explains their keyboard layout on their page. They backed it up with pretty hefty ergonomic testing, or so they claim.

Not saying that It actually ruins it, but I just got this keyboard and the way they are placed is a little annoying at first considering It makes your hand think you are one key further over. I got used to it now but when i first started playing sc2 with it i kept hitting caps lock instead of attack move lol.
Jinro | Idra | Qxc | Select
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
December 27 2010 03:18 GMT
#273
I'm completely used to having the macro buttons on the side now. They're more helpful than annoying.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
December 27 2010 03:23 GMT
#274
On December 27 2010 06:05 SunTzuEU wrote:
The macro keys just totally ruin this keyboard, can't keyboard manufacturers just realize that we don't want keyboards that look all fancy, we just want a standard keyboard with the good stuff on the inside...

(zowie and steelseries actually seems to have realized this, but yeah, apparently razer didnt.)


You don't want macro keys.

Some people do. And quite honestly, macro keys should be essential in a keyboard targeted towards gamers.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
December 27 2010 03:27 GMT
#275
On December 27 2010 10:44 holynorth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 08:03 vek wrote:
On December 27 2010 06:11 holynorth wrote:
On December 27 2010 06:05 SunTzuEU wrote:
The macro keys just totally ruin this keyboard, can't keyboard manufacturers just realize that we don't want keyboards that look all fancy, we just want a standard keyboard with the good stuff on the inside...

(zowie and steelseries actually seems to have realized this, but yeah, apparently razer didnt.)


Why exactly do the macro keys ruin the keyboard? I would say more people seem to like the keyboard with the macro keys than don't.


I'm assuming because they get in the way for some people and are unnecessary. Also, I will never understand why Razer used a non standard keyboard layout in their highest end product...


Human error is no reason to disregard a product or to say that it "totally ruin(s) this product". And Razer explains their keyboard layout on their page. They backed it up with pretty hefty ergonomic testing, or so they claim.


Well for me it totally ruins it. Besides, IBM threw a lot more money behind researching the best layout 30 years ago. The fact it is still around means something to me. I can't stand non standard keyboards.

Okay.. the gloss and childish font ruins it too.

I just really don't like any aspect of the Black Widow except the fact it is mechanical but even then I don't like MX Blues because I prefer Brown.

Simplicity and standards > Glossy marketing and (imo) dumb layout.
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
December 27 2010 04:00 GMT
#276
On December 27 2010 12:27 vek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 10:44 holynorth wrote:
On December 27 2010 08:03 vek wrote:
On December 27 2010 06:11 holynorth wrote:
On December 27 2010 06:05 SunTzuEU wrote:
The macro keys just totally ruin this keyboard, can't keyboard manufacturers just realize that we don't want keyboards that look all fancy, we just want a standard keyboard with the good stuff on the inside...

(zowie and steelseries actually seems to have realized this, but yeah, apparently razer didnt.)


Why exactly do the macro keys ruin the keyboard? I would say more people seem to like the keyboard with the macro keys than don't.


I'm assuming because they get in the way for some people and are unnecessary. Also, I will never understand why Razer used a non standard keyboard layout in their highest end product...


Human error is no reason to disregard a product or to say that it "totally ruin(s) this product". And Razer explains their keyboard layout on their page. They backed it up with pretty hefty ergonomic testing, or so they claim.


Well for me it totally ruins it. Besides, IBM threw a lot more money behind researching the best layout 30 years ago. The fact it is still around means something to me. I can't stand non standard keyboards.

Okay.. the gloss and childish font ruins it too.

I just really don't like any aspect of the Black Widow except the fact it is mechanical but even then I don't like MX Blues because I prefer Brown.

Simplicity and standards > Glossy marketing and (imo) dumb layout.



Opinion. Opinion. Opinion. It sounds like you want a keyboard designed especially for you, not for the masses. The fact is, Razer can't produce enough of these to stay in stock. I like the gloss, I like the font, and I love the macro keys. Your only argument is the layout. Even then, I have become accustomed to the layout and am loving it, as will the thousands of other buyers.
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 04:32:16
December 27 2010 04:28 GMT
#277
The lay out is awful imo. I can no longer ctrl f5 with my left hand without lifting my elbow up or using 2 hands in SC2. That makes me slower in sc2. I don't even bother trying to use f6 anymore and I have really big hands. The font is very ugly imo (reminds me of alienware stuff), and what I noticed is the number keys are a little more slippery because of the big number and symbol font covers the whole number keycabs. Also Razer seriously needs to stop putting gloss on hands-on input devices. It's awful on the deathdder mouse sides because it gets slippery to grip when hands get sweaty, and it's awful on the keyboard. All it does is attract more grime and dust faster for you to waste time and clean. It just doesn't make any sense unless you look at it from "hey look at me I'm shiny and cool" marketing point of view.


Overall I feel the keyboard design is clumsy for SC2 and unless you are cheating with macros, they are useless and just get in the way. I feel like I should have went with the more traditional mechanical keyboard for SC. Oh well this keyboard was dirt cheap for 56 dollars and it's mechanical with a decent build construction and do enjoy it with other games! I probably won't return to trade it in since all the better Rosewills RK9000 sold out like hotcakes
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
December 27 2010 05:16 GMT
#278
I just got mine in the mail on the 23rd and so far I'm loving it :D I've never owned a mechanical keyboard before so my only experience is with these blues. I like the clicky tactile feel... I've used various other $1-$100 gaming keyboards before... I used a Razer Tarantula for about 2 years before it stopped working roughly six months ago, so the macro keys feel right at home for me. They're kinda useless for SC1/2 imo but they're nice for MMOs/Counter Strike, ect.
Overall I'd have to recommend this keyboard for anyone that is looking to get a mechanical keyboard but doesn't wanna spend more than ~80. The keys feel wonderful albiet a bit noisey. 5/5 imo
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
December 27 2010 06:27 GMT
#279
i just went to frys today and tried out the black widow ultimate, the steelseries 7g, and the siig mechanical keyboard

the steelseries 7g was non clicky as advertised, and in my opinion it wasnt that good

the siig mechanical keyboard used Fukka switches (similar to APLS) which had a sexy click sound and good actuation force, you didnt press a key once you rested upon it, but you didnt need too much to have the key to actuate

the blackwidow ultimate in my opinion was inferior to the siig mechanical, as it had more mushy keys than i thought it would have, but still it's on the top of my list
de7dv
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden8 Posts
December 30 2010 20:30 GMT
#280
Good:
- blue Cherry keys
- macro keys, eg useful as numpad keys in dota
Bad:
- the foldable stands on the bakside (for angling the keyboard) feels like it can break any moment
- No support for wrists

Excellent replacement for my old microsoft keyboard<3
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