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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 24 2012 14:05 GMT
#19881
Asrock P67 Pro3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 If you want to do CrossfireX than the Z68 Extreme3 is a good choice.
BlackKiller
Profile Joined December 2011
58 Posts
March 24 2012 14:18 GMT
#19882
On March 24 2012 23:05 skyR wrote:
Asrock P67 Pro3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 If you want to do CrossfireX than the Z68 Extreme3 is a good choice.

I though the radeon hd 7850 require 3.0 x16 while asrock p67 is 2.0 x16 are you sure they are can fit together. I'm not sure I'm right I'm just throwing stuff out there
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 24 2012 14:20 GMT
#19883
PCI-E 3.0 requires Ivybridge. If you are getting Ivybridge, you might as well wait for 7 series chipsets. Sandybridge only supports 2.0. PCI-E has always been backwards and forward compatible with few exceptions with the very first PCI-E.
BlackKiller
Profile Joined December 2011
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 14:28:18
March 24 2012 14:26 GMT
#19884
On March 24 2012 23:20 skyR wrote:
PCI-E 3.0 requires Ivybridge. If you are getting Ivybridge, you might as well wait for 7 series chipsets. Sandybridge only supports 2.0. PCI-E has always been backwards and forward compatible with few exceptions with the very first PCI-E.

Alright then I'm not sure what you said xD but I catch on. Also what verison of hd radeon 7850 is best bang for the buck? Originally I was going to get the sapphire version. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102984. Are there any better version or better price? Also just to make sure an hd 7850 can fit on a asrock p67 motherboard. Sorry I am slow
FYI I'm getting an intel i5 2500k
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 24 2012 14:28 GMT
#19885
Yes, it fits. Sapphire and ASUS are the only ones in stock that I would consider.
BlackKiller
Profile Joined December 2011
58 Posts
March 24 2012 14:29 GMT
#19886
On March 24 2012 23:28 skyR wrote:
Yes, it fits. Sapphire and ASUS are the only ones in stock that I would consider.

K big thanks thank you again
BlazeTSR
Profile Joined November 2011
United States218 Posts
March 24 2012 20:15 GMT
#19887
I'm hoping you guys can give me advice on whether the parts and price I'm looking at is what I should be going for. I'm trying to build a new computer because my gaming laptop is meeting it's end. Do these parts fit a computer that will game, stream (X-split), and media edit at a high level of performance and do it well for a couple years to come (Bigger Summary Below). Budget $800-1,100 Of course, the cheaper the better!

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600 Sandy Bridge 3.4 GHz Quad Core 8000k

CPU Fan: Intel Socket 1156/1155 CPU fan

Mother Board: Intel DP67DEB3, P67, SATA3, USB3.0, GB LAN

RAM: 8GB (4x2GB) PC8500 DDR3 1066 Dual Channel

GPU/Graphics Card: GeForce 210 1GB, PCI Express 16x Dual Head, HDMI

Hard Drive: 1TB Western Digital Green SATA2 UDMA 300 64m cache

DVD/CD Drive: LG 22x DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW

Audio Card: Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)

Network Card: Wireless 802.11 N 300Mbs Network Card PCI Express

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Case, Side Window, Front USB 3.0

Power Supply: Logisys 400W ATX Power Supply

OS: Windows 7 Pro 64bit DVD w/SP1

$1035.00.....Price for all based off www.magicmicro.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=4245 with my additions (OS, Case change, Network Card, and Hard Drive Upgrade) If anyone has a better place to buy this I'd be all ears, but they've served me well in the past and build it for me
____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Some of the things I'll be using this computer for are basic Gaming (Starcraft 2 and Battlefield 3 mainly), streaming, video/photo editing, and office/work stuff.

I'm new to the streaming thing, but I'd really like to get into it if i had the machine to do it well. I want the games to run to the best of their ability and the parts be able to handle themselves for at least a couple years without having to replace them. I compete in paintball tournaments regularly and when I'm not I record and photograph my team and others, so i could use a machine that can handle that exceptionally well.
Fan of ........... Protoss: Hero, iNcontroL, Nony Zerg: CatZ and Sheth Terran: Demuslim
STYDawn
Profile Joined December 2011
137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 20:30:28
March 24 2012 20:23 GMT
#19888
On March 25 2012 05:15 BlazeTSR wrote:
I'm hoping you guys can give me advice on whether the parts and price I'm looking at is what I should be going for. I'm trying to build a new computer because my gaming laptop is meeting it's end. Do these parts fit a computer that will game, stream (X-split), and media edit at a high level of performance and do it well for a couple years to come (Bigger Summary Below). Budget $800-1,100 Of course, the cheaper the better!

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600 Sandy Bridge 3.4 GHz Quad Core 8000k

CPU Fan: Intel Socket 1156/1155 CPU fan

Mother Board: Intel DP67DEB3, P67, SATA3, USB3.0, GB LAN

RAM: 8GB (4x2GB) PC8500 DDR3 1066 Dual Channel

GPU/Graphics Card: GeForce 210 1GB, PCI Express 16x Dual Head, HDMI

Hard Drive: 1TB Western Digital Green SATA2 UDMA 300 64m cache

DVD/CD Drive: LG 22x DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW

Audio Card: Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)

Network Card: Wireless 802.11 N 300Mbs Network Card PCI Express

Case: Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Case, Side Window, Front USB 3.0

Power Supply: Logisys 400W ATX Power Supply

OS: Windows 7 Pro 64bit DVD w/SP1

$1035.00.....Price for all based off www.magicmicro.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=4245 with my additions (OS, Case change, Network Card, and Hard Drive Upgrade) If anyone has a better place to buy this I'd be all ears, but they've served me well in the past and build it for me
____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Some of the things I'll be using this computer for are basic Gaming (Starcraft 2 and Battlefield 3 mainly), streaming, video/photo editing, and office/work stuff.

I'm new to the streaming thing, but I'd really like to get into it if i had the machine to do it well. I want the games to run to the best of their ability and the parts be able to handle themselves for at least a couple years without having to replace them. I compete in paintball tournaments regularly and when I'm not I record and photograph my team and others, so i could use a machine that can handle that exceptionally well.


the 210? thats a waste. The 210 isnt even gonna run bf3 at any acceptable settings. Either get a 6750 or 6850 or just use the onboard intel graphics(thats even better than the 210)

Also, youre skimping too much on the power supply, get something better.

Edit: that site doesnt have any good options. they are over charging you too much Imo.
I recommend you just buy a factory built noncustom comptuer

try this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220137 OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229283

both of them aren't the best buys, but they are waaaaaaaaaaaaay better buys than yours. i would go with the cyberpower one.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 24 2012 20:43 GMT
#19889
That magicmicro price and components are so bad it's not worth even talking about.

By the way, if you want wireless, pick up one of these too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166056

The Cyberpower linked above is okay.
BlazeTSR
Profile Joined November 2011
United States218 Posts
March 24 2012 21:15 GMT
#19890
Thanks guys for the comments. The Cyberpower STYDawn posted looks awesome stat wise and price is way better then what I was look at paying for a worse computer too. The reviews for the Cyberpower machine say people have been receiving ones with faulty parts, but otherwise only real thing is the suggestion of buying a better then 600W power supply. It also looks like the AMD Radeon HD 6850 in it won't run bf3 on the highest settings but will be able to go the next best anyway.

I will be planning on going wireless so thanks Myrmidon; I'll be planning on buying that no matter what machine I buy.
Fan of ........... Protoss: Hero, iNcontroL, Nony Zerg: CatZ and Sheth Terran: Demuslim
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 24 2012 21:22 GMT
#19891
If you're getting a replacement power supply, that's about half as much work as just assembling the thing yourself (which is much significantly less than the work it takes to set up all your software anyway).

The Cyberpower system uses less than 250W when fully maxed out, so it's more a matter of getting an honestly-rated, reliable power supply rather than some sketchy POS masquerading as a power supply. That said, most dishonest 600W power supplies they would include could probably handle that kind of system okay.
STYDawn
Profile Joined December 2011
137 Posts
March 24 2012 23:06 GMT
#19892
On March 25 2012 06:15 BlazeTSR wrote:
Thanks guys for the comments. The Cyberpower STYDawn posted looks awesome stat wise and price is way better then what I was look at paying for a worse computer too. The reviews for the Cyberpower machine say people have been receiving ones with faulty parts, but otherwise only real thing is the suggestion of buying a better then 600W power supply. It also looks like the AMD Radeon HD 6850 in it won't run bf3 on the highest settings but will be able to go the next best anyway.

I will be planning on going wireless so thanks Myrmidon; I'll be planning on buying that no matter what machine I buy.


People who receive a faulty part tends to write a review more frequently than people who get a working machine.
That being said, i really recommend you build the computer yourself as no factory/custom built computer will have the same bang for you buck as a "home-made" one.

Finally, the ability to run bf3 on ultra really depends on your resolution.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 02:22:00
March 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#19893
Fan questions:

In a push and pull cpu cooler do you want the pull fan to have higher cfm? or the otherway around?

Case fan's:

I don't know what size of fan to get (doesn't say/didn't buy the case/case has no fans). I've measured the distance between the top two screw holes (from middle of the hole to middle of the other one) and I've come up with 2 7/8 inches (comes out at 73mm) so does that mean I need 70mm fans or 80mm?
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
jamesuh
Profile Joined January 2011
United States82 Posts
March 25 2012 02:43 GMT
#19894
So right now, I have a gateway lx6810-01 model and when I stream, I have major FPS lag. My upload/download speed is great, but people were telling me that it was my graphics card. I was just wondering what kind of build would be ideal for streaming SC2 and if just switching out parts could solve my problem.

On March 24 2012 17:56 jamesuh wrote:
What is your budget?
+ Show Spoiler +
$300, if only parts need to be switched out that. $600, if I need to upgrade my whole computer.


What is your resolution?
+ Show Spoiler +
1280x800


What are you using it for?
+ Show Spoiler +

SC2 and Streaming (with little to no FPS lag)


What is your upgrade cycle?
+ Show Spoiler +
Every 2 years.


When do you plan on building it?
+ Show Spoiler +

As soon as I feel confident with the parts that I am buying.


Do you plan on overclocking?
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes, if needed.


Do you need an Operating System?
+ Show Spoiler +

Nope.


Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
+ Show Spoiler +

No.


Where are you buying your parts from?
+ Show Spoiler +

Newegg and or Fry's.


iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
March 25 2012 03:20 GMT
#19895
On March 25 2012 11:43 jamesuh wrote:
So right now, I have a gateway lx6810-01 model and when I stream, I have major FPS lag. My upload/download speed is great, but people were telling me that it was my graphics card. I was just wondering what kind of build would be ideal for streaming SC2 and if just switching out parts could solve my problem.



you will probably need a brand new build.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Poe
Profile Joined January 2003
United States32 Posts
March 25 2012 03:22 GMT
#19896
As advised earlier in this thread I will be getting my i5 2500k and this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

I currently have a 4 year old mid-size tower and am thinking about ordering a full sized tower when I order (Something I will hopefully never have to replace and can just build onto over the next years. I am looking at something designed to be a really good air cooling system. I will have my http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 sitting on the chip so I need something that can still close easily. Also I heard that if the back bracket for the cooler touches the case it will blow the mobo? I have never used coolers that didn't come with the chips :X.

Anywho, is there a nice but relatively budget friendly case that fits this bill, compatible with the mobo etc. I of course would love it to look nice too, but functionality is far more important.

Thanks again for the help as always guys, eventually I may be the one answering these questions.. but for now I a am a novice at it
Currently Streaming: Diablo 3 - twitch.tv/rtspoe
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 03:31:25
March 25 2012 03:28 GMT
#19897
On March 25 2012 12:22 Poe wrote:
As advised earlier in this thread I will be getting my i5 2500k and this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

I currently have a 4 year old mid-size tower and am thinking about ordering a full sized tower when I order (Something I will hopefully never have to replace and can just build onto over the next years. I am looking at something designed to be a really good air cooling system. I will have my http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 sitting on the chip so I need something that can still close easily. Also I heard that if the back bracket for the cooler touches the case it will blow the mobo? I have never used coolers that didn't come with the chips :X.

Anywho, is there a nice but relatively budget friendly case that fits this bill, compatible with the mobo etc. I of course would love it to look nice too, but functionality is far more important.

Thanks again for the help as always guys, eventually I may be the one answering these questions.. but for now I a am a novice at it


you probably dont need a full tower imo. i saw this deal earlier and it could be really good for you

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216 . Or just get a CoolerMaster 912

but if you want full tower you can get something like a CoolerMaster 932.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 03:36:43
March 25 2012 03:36 GMT
#19898
Hyper 212+ is tiny, literally any over-sized mid-tower case can fit it (pretty much everything from Coolermaster, Antec, Corsair, and so on).

HAF 932 is old, no filters and no USB3. Not to mention it's ugly as hell.

Btw, budget and full tower do not belong in the same sentence.
Poe
Profile Joined January 2003
United States32 Posts
March 25 2012 05:19 GMT
#19899
Was thinking of getting one just for the long run like I said. But I guess a mid would be okay as long as there is plenty of room for a full size mobo, 2 hd, ssd, 2 gpu, etc. Maybe someday liquid but for now just a good fan setup.

What would be the cheapest full size that is good? As far as specific model etc. Or if I should just settle on a mid tower what is a really good air flow setup? I live in the desert with evap cooling so ambient air temp out of the case isn't the coolest for sure.

For reference the case I currently have is this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144151

It is okay, but its a bit beat up since I have had it since early 2008 I think.Doesn't seem to move much air in it. The front ports for usb and sound have never worked reliably, and I don't like the top mounted psu very much.
Currently Streaming: Diablo 3 - twitch.tv/rtspoe
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 25 2012 06:18 GMT
#19900
A full tower case just isn't for you if you are thinking cheap. A case will last you basically forever until we move away from ATX standard or your needs / wants change. If you want to invest in something for the long run than pick something that's good for you and buy it, don't be a cheapass about it.

And you never mentioned your budget. If you're looking for something under $100 then Corsair 400R, Coolermaster 690ii Advanced, and Coolermaster Storm Enforcer come to mind for mid-tower cases. If you're looking for cheap full towers than Coolermaster HAF 932, Coolermaster Storm Trooper and Silverstone RV03 are all under $150.
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