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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 20 2012 22:27 GMT
#18801
I wish I had whatever they were smoking.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-20 23:04:14
February 20 2012 22:59 GMT
#18802
From what I've read, the mrsp of the 7870 will be 299 USD, while 7850 will be 219/249 USD for 1/2gb.

The 7870 will probably perform slightly better than the 6950, and the 7850 quite a bit beyond 6870.

What I'm interested in is 7850 and if it will run passive, hopefully powercolor or someone else will make a passive version for that one, but maybe it'll take a few months extra =(.

Then there was also info about 7890 coming out, but it will take a month or two extra. The other two cards will be released in 14 days at cebit.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 20 2012 23:08 GMT
#18803
The 7850 can't be significantly worse than a 6870 when it has more stream processors, more TUs, more ROPs, more memory bandwidth, and a higher clock (if those rumored specs are true, most likely is true). And even if those specs weren't true, there's no way a 7850 can be significantly worse than a 6870 if you claim a 7870 will be better than a 6950 because no company in their right mind would bin that low.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
February 20 2012 23:12 GMT
#18804
On February 21 2012 08:08 skyR wrote:
The 7850 can't be significantly worse than a 6870 when it has more stream processors, more TUs, more ROPs, more memory bandwidth, and a higher clock (if those rumored specs are true, most likely is true). And even if those specs weren't true, there's no way a 7850 can be significantly worse than a 6870 if you claim a 7870 will be better than a 6950 because no company in their right mind would bin that low.


I said quite a bit beyond the 6870... like above. Sorry if you misunderstood.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 20 2012 23:15 GMT
#18805
Ops, read quite a bit behind.
Dojun
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6 Posts
February 21 2012 00:16 GMT
#18806
What is your budget?
Around 2500 Euro, that budget is including a screen and a new OS.

What are you using it for?
Gaming gaming gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
I get a bit more cash to spare nowdays so later it would be good if the computer was uppgradable wihtout having to change everything at once. I would say some 2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Early march

Do you plan on overclocking?
If it is fairly easy to do as a newb I do

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not in the near future atleast

Where are you buying your parts from?
Going to buy them in Sweden, so komplett.se, inet.se or if someone else knows a good reliable company from there

I have been lurking around a bit reading the tips for other people and made myself a possible build, www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/1496017/maybe-this
Is there anything that I have missed? Or have added extra that is just throwing money away?
What is the difference is there between the different brands on the HD 7970 like PowerColor as I have on the list compared to say a XFX or MSI?
Que pasa?
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
February 21 2012 00:26 GMT
#18807
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 21 2012 09:16 Dojun wrote:
What is your budget?
Around 2500 Euro, that budget is including a screen and a new OS.

What are you using it for?
Gaming gaming gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
I get a bit more cash to spare nowdays so later it would be good if the computer was uppgradable wihtout having to change everything at once. I would say some 2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Early march

Do you plan on overclocking?
If it is fairly easy to do as a newb I do

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not in the near future atleast

Where are you buying your parts from?
Going to buy them in Sweden, so komplett.se, inet.se or if someone else knows a good reliable company from there

I have been lurking around a bit reading the tips for other people and made myself a possible build, www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/1496017/maybe-this
Is there anything that I have missed? Or have added extra that is just throwing money away?
What is the difference is there between the different brands on the HD 7970 like PowerColor as I have on the list compared to say a XFX or MSI?




A couple things, although I will let skyr get most of it (or someone better than me) but if you have an lga2011 mono, you need a 2011 CPU, like the 3930k (something like that)

Also, you really don't need that much money, I would personally pocket a lot of it. And I don't know if that's a good power supply, but a rosewill Capstone 450/550w is probably a better choice.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 00:46:13
February 21 2012 00:44 GMT
#18808
Capstone not really available abroad.

I7-2600k is unnecessary for gaming, gaming, and gaming. Go with I5-2500k instead since it has identical performance for all three types of gaming.

2000 RAM is unnecessary since RAM speeds beyond 1333 provide negligible benefits. As does 12 gigs of it. Instead go for 8 gigs of 1333 RAM, the cheapest you can find.

Get a p67 motherboard, such as an ASRock Pro 3. That motherboard is for LGA 2011, which is a socket type I wouldnt recommend building on anyway.

That cooler is often overpriced for its performance, Cooler Master Hyper 212+ is better for the money, if available.

650W is way overkill for that system, enough to power it twice over with more to spare in fact. But I can't remember what gold rated PSU's also modular are available in your area. You dont really need full modular though since you dont have many components to install anyway.

The differences between different manufacturers cards is default clock rate, and cooling. They all perform identically when clocked to the same value. Also warranty and sometimes you dont get adapters and such.
twitch.tv/medrea
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
February 21 2012 00:47 GMT
#18809
On February 21 2012 09:16 Dojun wrote:
What is your budget?
Around 2500 Euro, that budget is including a screen and a new OS.

What are you using it for?
Gaming gaming gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
I get a bit more cash to spare nowdays so later it would be good if the computer was uppgradable wihtout having to change everything at once. I would say some 2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Early march

Do you plan on overclocking?
If it is fairly easy to do as a newb I do

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not in the near future atleast

Where are you buying your parts from?
Going to buy them in Sweden, so komplett.se, inet.se or if someone else knows a good reliable company from there

I have been lurking around a bit reading the tips for other people and made myself a possible build, www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/1496017/maybe-this
Is there anything that I have missed? Or have added extra that is just throwing money away?
What is the difference is there between the different brands on the HD 7970 like PowerColor as I have on the list compared to say a XFX or MSI?


20000SEK is so overkill, you can get an almost as good computer for around 12000SEK. Are you looking to upgrade or just spend money? =p
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 00:54:00
February 21 2012 00:52 GMT
#18810
Oh good point medrea

Quick question: since mainstream ivy bridge will run on lga1155, is the extreme version going to run on 2011? I assume so but I'm not very smart when it comes to this
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 21 2012 00:54 GMT
#18811
Did you mistake medrea for myrmidon or am I blind?

Ivybridge-E will be on LGA 2011.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
February 21 2012 01:14 GMT
#18812
On February 21 2012 09:54 skyR wrote:
Did you mistake medrea for myrmidon or am I blind?

Ivybridge-E will be on LGA 2011.


I can recommend good builds too dammit!!
twitch.tv/medrea
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 21 2012 01:15 GMT
#18813
I never said you can't -.- it's just that your names are nothing alike besides the first letter.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 01:19:12
February 21 2012 01:18 GMT
#18814
On February 21 2012 10:14 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 09:54 skyR wrote:
Did you mistake medrea for myrmidon or am I blind?

Ivybridge-E will be on LGA 2011.


I can recommend good builds too dammit!!


XD I thought myrmidon for some reason, and I'm on my phone. So I edited it out as fast as I could but apparently people saw it

No offense meant medrea of course xD

Edit: I'm also really tired and so I don't know what I was thinking haha.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
February 21 2012 01:22 GMT
#18815
No lol. I didnt even see you wrote Myrmidon first.

Worst case scenario is I would have done a table flipping emote.
twitch.tv/medrea
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 21 2012 01:26 GMT
#18816
I dunno, sometimes I post under alter egos.

Anyway, for gaming, on that kind of budget, I'd take a reasonable 120 Hz monitor like the Samsung S23A700D or BenQ XL2420T instead of a Dell Ultrasharp. I mean, you get a HD 7970 to have killer frame rates, and if you have a 60 Hz monitor, it's going to waste.

Corsair AX is Seasonic X inside, which is pretty similar to Super Flower Golden Green (like Capstone). NZXT Hale90 550W is modular Golden Green, and would be a good alternative.

For the HD 7970, since prices are similar, take Gigabyte's 3 fan model. It has very good cooling and acoustics compared to the competition.

For the cooler, Thermalright HR-02 Macho is priced very well, if for some reason something like a Hyper 212 doesn't suit your needs (either an extreme OC or lower noise on a moderate OC).

Other issues were already covered.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
February 21 2012 01:30 GMT
#18817
Whatever happened to the S23A750D. Is it the same as the 700D now?
twitch.tv/medrea
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 02:01:37
February 21 2012 01:52 GMT
#18818
On February 21 2012 09:16 Dojun wrote:
What is your budget?
Around 2500 Euro, that budget is including a screen and a new OS.

What are you using it for?
Gaming gaming gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
I get a bit more cash to spare nowdays so later it would be good if the computer was uppgradable wihtout having to change everything at once. I would say some 2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Early march

Do you plan on overclocking?
If it is fairly easy to do as a newb I do

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not in the near future atleast

Where are you buying your parts from?
Going to buy them in Sweden, so komplett.se, inet.se or if someone else knows a good reliable company from there

I have been lurking around a bit reading the tips for other people and made myself a possible build, www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/1496017/maybe-this
Is there anything that I have missed? Or have added extra that is just throwing money away?
What is the difference is there between the different brands on the HD 7970 like PowerColor as I have on the list compared to say a XFX or MSI?


22-24inch DELL U2412M ULTRASHARP 24" WIDE TFT LED - OBS FYNDVARA 2190 kr 2190 kr
Antec Kühler H2O 620 349 kr 349 kr
Antec P280 Midtower - Black 949 kr 949 kr
Corsair 4GB Intel/AMD PC3-10666, 1333MHz, 1x240 DIMM 170 kr 340 kr
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 - LGA1155 1035 kr 1035 kr
Intel® Core i5 2500K, 3.3GHz, 6MB 1680 kr 1680 kr
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 Sve (64-bit OEM ) 849 kr 849 kr
Samsung 830 Series MZ-7PC128 128GB Desktop 1471 kr 1471 kr
Sapphire HD7970 3GB PCI-E DDR5, Full retail 4550 kr 4550 kr
Thermaltake Toughpower XT 575W Bronze 626 kr 626 kr
Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 5400rpm 64MB 3.5" SATA-3 949 kr 949 kr

@CDON.COM
(I also used a discount coupon 8% PM for more info)
Frakt 49 kr
Total 15037 kr

You save 5000SEK with no neglected performance at all... Also, i would never buy a 7970 at those prices myself. I mean, it's a good card, but it's priced way too expensive. Unfortunately buying 7950 doesn't make sense either, as only 300-400SEK differ. I still think 6950 is the best price/performance atm, but maybe you don't want that in a new computer build.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 21 2012 01:58 GMT
#18819
Again, I don't see why one would spend up on a HD 7970 and get a 60 Hz monitor if the main purpose of the build is for gaming. Extra refreshes per second containing new information aren't going to hurt...

btw I have no idea how Toughpower XT pricing is so good in lots of Europe. It's like Rosewill Capstone here.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 02:15:59
February 21 2012 02:05 GMT
#18820
On February 21 2012 10:58 Myrmidon wrote:
Again, I don't see why one would spend up on a HD 7970 and get a 60 Hz monitor if the main purpose of the build is for gaming. Extra refreshes per second containing new information aren't going to hurt...

btw I have no idea how Toughpower XT pricing is so good in lots of Europe. It's like Rosewill Capstone here.


Yeah, I just took that monitor because it was the one he picked himself, and because the price was pretty damn low on CDON (basically 30% off). Obviously you could pick a better monitor than that to match the monster GPU.

And yeah, it's pretty amazing, i saw the price on newegg for the toughpower XT and was like WHOA. It's actually worth buying here, since it's modular and a damn stable PSU with good parts (and 88% efficiency!).
The rivals at similar pricing is Fractal Design Tesla, 650W, CORSAIR CX 600W, XFX 550W Core, but I think it makes sense to pick Toughpower XT since it's modular.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
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