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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 12 2012 03:48 GMT
#17541
I think a good wireless keyboard mouse will put the system overbudget. Maybe wireless card as well.

500 euro for a setup that can run games at 1080p "well" should be doable.

What is meant by "shuttle barebone case?"
twitch.tv/medrea
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 12 2012 03:56 GMT
#17542
Shuttle barebone would mean he wants one of those mini Shuttle cases that comes with a power supply and motherboard.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 04:35:03
January 12 2012 04:29 GMT
#17543
Arent those all basically prebuilt computers?

Or are we just basically looking at a small ITX computer case.

I suggested a mini computer awhile ago to some other guy. He said he was gonna build it.

Wonder how that turned out. I asked TL to proofread my work and no one really responded with a nay so i guess it works on paper.
twitch.tv/medrea
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 12 2012 04:38 GMT
#17544
The thinnest miniITX case builds (the ones like the Antec ISK that don't fit expansion cards), if used for gaming, might be one of the only times you would want to use Llano on the desktop. There's an argument to be made for an i3-2105 though.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 12 2012 04:51 GMT
#17545
Here is what that ig0tfish guy said he was getting.

Hey Medrea, thanks again for the suggestions for a mini-itx build. I've decided to try out this case that you suggested

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811153127

I'm going to be building them with these:

A6-3500 Tri-Core APU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103951

FM1 socket Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103951

I picked this APU because it has integrated HD 6530D, so I probably won't be needing a video card and is only 65W TDP.

I probably won't be putting this together for a few more weeks.


Now I didnt actually suggest any of those parts except for the Foxconn case. I paired it up with integrated HD3000 graphics from an i3 Sandy Bridge... cant remember exactly which one. I think it was 2105.

No idea really, 150W PSU doesnt exactly have much ability to run any game at 1080p "well".

My most serious suggestion was taking a more normal mini ITX case that was slightly bigger but with a much better PSU.

I have to admit Im looking at building a mini PC for my bathroom or living room.....or both at the same time (they are adjacent, I could knock a hole in the wall and have two connections, one to bathroom and one to living room), for Diablo 3.
twitch.tv/medrea
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
January 12 2012 04:55 GMT
#17546
Please tell us you'd be playing Diablo III with a waterproof keyboard in the bath and not...

Never mind, please DON'T tell us.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 12 2012 05:00 GMT
#17547
On January 12 2012 13:55 MisterFred wrote:
Please tell us you'd be playing Diablo III with a waterproof keyboard in the bath and not...

Never mind, please DON'T tell us.


Yeah man. If nature calls while I am playing Diablo 3 I want to be able to continue the EPIC STRUGGLE in the bathroom.
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Solidarity
Profile Joined September 2011
United States78 Posts
January 12 2012 06:37 GMT
#17548
Forgive another nubbish question on my part, but I recently came into an improved graphics card that works fine with my specs, but runs VERY hot (like 90 degrees C). My case is very small and not well cooled, as that was never an issue before. If I wanted a cooler rig, what would you suggest (I would assume case and fan wise)? Again, pardon me if I'm oversimplifying, but I am hardware retarded. Thanks .
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 12 2012 07:04 GMT
#17549
Came into it?

If it is a hand-me-down then it is likely that it needs a good dusting with a can of air, or repair.
twitch.tv/medrea
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
January 12 2012 07:30 GMT
#17550
What's a proper temperature for a laptop at light to medium usage?
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
January 12 2012 07:38 GMT
#17551
On January 12 2012 15:37 Solidarity wrote:
Forgive another nubbish question on my part, but I recently came into an improved graphics card that works fine with my specs, but runs VERY hot (like 90 degrees C). My case is very small and not well cooled, as that was never an issue before. If I wanted a cooler rig, what would you suggest (I would assume case and fan wise)? Again, pardon me if I'm oversimplifying, but I am hardware retarded. Thanks .

Semen + Graphics cards do not mix. Try to clean it out as best you can with a slightly damp cloth, the semen may also be inside near the fan bearings slowing it down. Have you tried a more aggressive fan profile?

But really people, please don't expect electrical equipment to function properly after being coated with bodily fluids...
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Molybdenum
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States358 Posts
January 12 2012 07:41 GMT
#17552
On January 12 2012 16:30 SleepTech wrote:
What's a proper temperature for a laptop at light to medium usage?


Depends on what "light to medium usage" is. If you're gaming, 70+ might be considered reasonably hot, but it depends on a few factors. If you haven't cleaned it with canned air recently (few months), blowing out the fan would be a good idea. I shaved 10+C off my laptop doing that. Heck, it's probably a good idea to do regardless of your temps if it hasn't been done for a while
InDaHouse
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden956 Posts
January 12 2012 08:54 GMT
#17553
So how much will Sandy Bridge drop in price now when Ivy is incoming?
Stork protoss legend
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
January 12 2012 08:56 GMT
#17554
On January 12 2012 17:54 InDaHouse wrote:
So how much will Sandy Bridge drop in price now when Ivy is incoming?


Probably nothing. Intel doesn't really down-price its previous generations of procesoors, it just leaves them up for sale at the old prices until the things become EOL.
Such flammable little insects!
Solidarity
Profile Joined September 2011
United States78 Posts
January 12 2012 09:54 GMT
#17555
On January 12 2012 16:38 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 15:37 Solidarity wrote:
Forgive another nubbish question on my part, but I recently came into an improved graphics card that works fine with my specs, but runs VERY hot (like 90 degrees C). My case is very small and not well cooled, as that was never an issue before. If I wanted a cooler rig, what would you suggest (I would assume case and fan wise)? Again, pardon me if I'm oversimplifying, but I am hardware retarded. Thanks .

Semen + Graphics cards do not mix. Try to clean it out as best you can with a slightly damp cloth, the semen may also be inside near the fan bearings slowing it down. Have you tried a more aggressive fan profile?

But really people, please don't expect electrical equipment to function properly after being coated with bodily fluids...


Yes, thank you, clearly I blew my load into a Geforce GTX 470. My girlfriend just didn't cut it anymore, and I decided my friends' graphics card would do the trick for me. Your post was so helpful that I can no longer help myself, and it is time for round two.
Caspor
Profile Joined June 2010
Austria18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 11:12:53
January 12 2012 11:06 GMT
#17556
On January 12 2012 12:56 skyR wrote:
Shuttle barebone would mean he wants one of those mini Shuttle cases that comes with a power supply and motherboard.


exactly, reason for that is it needs to fit into a tv table that cant be very high because of the large tv

dont need os,
yea should be as silent as possible,
ok leave the keyboard and mouse out of it for now, but make it as cheap as possible if its 550 euro its ok too
and able to run current stuff properly, wich doesnt mean to run bf3 on max details with 80+fps and 16xaf 4xaa
1900x1200 (af & aa are no priority) around 40 fps should be alright for a current game i know i have to compromise on that for that price

on the tv i read some tests and most ppl who have it said it has very little input lag guess i have to find out myself
Caspor
Profile Joined June 2010
Austria18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 11:43:17
January 12 2012 11:27 GMT
#17557
[B]
I have to admit Im looking at building a mini PC for my bathroom or living room.....or both at the same time (they are adjacent, I could knock a hole in the wall and have two connections, one to bathroom and one to living room), for Diablo 3.


thats the general idea, casually playing d3 or some shooter in the living room or watch sc2 streams or replays on an obscene large tv while chillin on the couch

the shuttle case is not a must but the not too high case is as a normal mini tower is too tall
like mini ITX/DTX would be cool (h30cm or less)
Caspor
Profile Joined June 2010
Austria18 Posts
January 12 2012 11:44 GMT
#17558
On January 12 2012 13:29 Medrea wrote:

Or are we just basically looking at a small ITX computer case.



yep
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 15:05:26
January 12 2012 15:05 GMT
#17559
On January 12 2012 13:51 Medrea wrote:
Here is what that ig0tfish guy said he was getting.

Show nested quote +
Hey Medrea, thanks again for the suggestions for a mini-itx build. I've decided to try out this case that you suggested

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811153127

I'm going to be building them with these:

A6-3500 Tri-Core APU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103951

FM1 socket Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103951

I picked this APU because it has integrated HD 6530D, so I probably won't be needing a video card and is only 65W TDP.

I probably won't be putting this together for a few more weeks.


Now I didnt actually suggest any of those parts except for the Foxconn case. I paired it up with integrated HD3000 graphics from an i3 Sandy Bridge... cant remember exactly which one. I think it was 2105.

No idea really, 150W PSU doesnt exactly have much ability to run any game at 1080p "well".

My most serious suggestion was taking a more normal mini ITX case that was slightly bigger but with a much better PSU.

I have to admit Im looking at building a mini PC for my bathroom or living room.....or both at the same time (they are adjacent, I could knock a hole in the wall and have two connections, one to bathroom and one to living room), for Diablo 3.


Thinking about this as well (but uh, just in the living room). Trying to decide between super silent, but have somewhat crappy gaming quality. Or just balls out power, but super noisy.

What decent graphics card would be a good balance between silent and can power a 50" tv with some settings somewhat cranked up (AA)?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 12 2012 16:10 GMT
#17560
If size is not a huge concern, you can get super silent with a decent amount of performance (i5-2500k, HD 6870).

e.g. http://www.silentpcreview.com/fanless-psu-build-guide

though few are really going to use an aftermarket GPU heatsink or go actually for 18 dBA @ 1m under load. That's just an example. There's a fanless HD 6850 model by PowerColor, for those so inclined.


I don't really think an A8-3850 (A8-3870K) is completely up to the task for decent framerates at 1080p in many newer games at reasonable settings, but that's the best bet for the Shuttle-sized builds. You'd really need a power supply that can handle say 150W continuously though, and many smaller case models don't come with such parts.

PicoPSU is an option I guess.
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