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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 04:49:18
December 29 2011 04:47 GMT
#16781
On December 29 2011 13:32 [AtRi] wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hello TL!

Im looking into building a new computer, and with the little computer knowledge I have, I have picked out the components. I would like a second opinion on these components, and I would be thankful for any assistance you can provide :D

So first I'll answer the questions posed in the OP of this thread to give you guys some background information.

What is your budget?

The build I have created is about $1000, and including monitor will be about $1200.

What is your resolution?

I plan to play on a 1920x1080 monitor.

What are you using it for?

Ideally, I would like to be able to stream 720 on Ultra graphic settings. I know the computer can handle Ultra settings, but wether or not it can stream at the same time or not I am unsure. I would be happy to hear your thoughts.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I'm coming from using Macs, which you can't upgrade at all so I'm not completely sure, but I believe that the upgrade cycle will be around 1-2 years.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Yes, and I believe that the components I have picked out support overclocking, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Do you need an operating system?

Yes, and I included it in my budget.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Yes, not right away but I would like to have the option. Again, I believe the components that I selected supports SLI and Crossfire, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Where do you plan on getting your parts from?

Most likely newegg.com, but I am open to other suggestions (I live in US)



Alright, after taking care of that, here is the rig that I have assembled:

CPU: Intel i5 2500k @3.3ghz


This was the best CPU that fit my budget, and I got the 2500k over the 2500 to have the option to overclock.

Motherboard: MSI P67A-G65 (B3) LGA 1155


This felt like the best motherboard fit for me, as it supports SLI, Crossfire, and overclocking. Also, It seemed to have an adequate number/type of ports.

RAM: Patriot Viper Xtreme 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866

I think 8gb should suffice, and this is the fasted RAM my motherboard supports without overclocking.

GPU: EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi)

Alright, I need a little help here. I know that I want a GeForce 560 Ti, but after that I am unsure what to get. This was the highest rated card on newegg, so I am open to suggestions on which card to get beyond GeForce 560 Ti.

PSU: SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST60F-ES 600W ATX12V / EPS12V

I need a little help here too as well. I believe this powersupply is powerful enough, and the company is reputable i hear. Any suggestions for a PSU would be nice .

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower

Picked this for three reasons. I like the looks, has an adequate number of fans (I think) and it seems to have enough room for what I'm putting in it.

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500413AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"


500gb is the capacity I feel I need, and I hear this is a reputable company.

HSF: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler

Since I plan on overclocking, I feel I need this.

Links to all the components:

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148701

Graphics Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256071

RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220562

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130582

Processor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

HSF - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

So summary of what I would like from you guys:

-Review my components and let me know of any improvements I can make
-Will this computer fill my idea needs? (Stream Ultra Graphpics, 720p)

Thanks a bunch, and any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated <3

~AtRi



The GTX 560 Ti model you selected is an EVGA -AR so it comes with a lifetime warranty upon registration though it's not priced in line with the rest of the cards. The Superclocked -AR is slightly faster, comes with lifetime warranty and is available at $240: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130610 , just a sligh

The Silverstone Strider Essentials is old and isn't that great. If you want to do a multi-GPU configuration than you'll probably want a Rosewill Capstone 650 which is $90 until the end of the year or $100 at regular pricing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071 If you don't want something as high-end, you can get a Seasonic S12II 620 for $70: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151096 , both are good units and much better than the Silverstone Strider.

To achieve higher frequency memory is overclocking. 1866MHz memory is basically overclocked 1333MHz memory. You don't want to waste money on premium memory because heatspreaders are next to useless and higher frequency / tighter timings provide negligible gains. See for yourself:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html

GSkill Ripjaws for $35 with promo code is half the price of your selected memory and is just as good (if not better since your selected memory runs at 1.65v, you can easily overclock this kit yourself to those speeds at 1.65v): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

Antec Three Hundred Illusion isn't a good case as it lacks tool-less features. But if you like the aesthetics than I guess it's okay.

You linked to a G45 but you specified a GD65? The G45 will be fine and is at a good price with that promo code. The GD65 is probably unnecessary and isn't a good choice anyways since there are better boards in that price range.

The configuration will be able to play on reasonably high settings at 1080p and be capable of streaming 720p.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 29 2011 04:48 GMT
#16782
On December 29 2011 13:38 Shiwoo wrote:
I should get the GSkills that are 1333 right? Because my motherboard only supports that?


The memory will automatically downclock to 1333MHz so don't worry about it.
Shiwoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 04:50:18
December 29 2011 04:50 GMT
#16783
Thank you!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 29 2011 05:33 GMT
#16784
Actually you don't even need a 650, Capstone 550 would be more than enough and there's some headroom as well.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 29 2011 05:52 GMT
#16785
The difference is only $10 between the 650W and 550W, and it's also the difference between not having to use molex -> PCIe adapters. Then again, SLI is usually dumb and on the flip side, that probably means there's going to be some unused PCIe cables (among others), for what that's worth. Antec 300, whatever, are all plenty big though...a couple piles of unused cables on the bottom is not a big deal.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
December 29 2011 06:21 GMT
#16786
Going to try this again, because I did not post correctly the first time.. Please help guys.

I would prefer a LAPTOP (to take to school)

What is your budget?

700 $

What are you using it for?

Schoolwork, broodwar, hopefully sc2 if possible, poker, facebook, movies.

What is your upgrade cycle?

1-2 years



Do you need an operating system?

windows 7


Where do you plan on getting your parts from?

I don't know
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 29 2011 06:57 GMT
#16787
I'd get the $679.20 Lenovo IdeaPad Y470 here:

link

Unfortunately the hard drive is only 5400 rpm but I think these things have mSATA slots if you want to really get an mSATA SSD. It's i5-2430M and GT 550M.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
December 29 2011 07:07 GMT
#16788
thank you Myrmidon, i'm looking at toshibas right now on toshibadirect.com , i'm narrowing it down to maybe an i3 with any radeon( just reading past posts by SkyR. and others.... thanks for the help though.. i really don't care about travelling with it too much. So maybe I should just go for the desktop instead? I do want to see my laptop options. Id enjoy taking my laptop to friends houses to play poker.
Chaomantic
Profile Joined January 2011
20 Posts
December 29 2011 07:19 GMT
#16789
Thanks, Myrmidon!

I do regard headphones as merely a supplementary solution as wearing them all the time would probably be very uncomfortable to say the least. However, their apparently better sound and convincing marketing, for which I’m a sucker like no other, do make them exciting to at least consider. Not to mention that them not producing any sound to speak of outside of the cups gracefully does away with my concern for my neighbors’ peace and quiet.

And if that’s the case with the sound cards these days I guess I’ll just keep to my Realtek since it’s almost okay now :-) Wouldn’t want to overinvest into the sound department anyway.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
December 29 2011 07:19 GMT
#16790
I like your suggestion, I am just unsure about Lenovos, I've never used one before, and not sure if I trust them? that must sound stupid -_-a
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
December 29 2011 07:32 GMT
#16791
And, i would like a 15'' atleast.. don't think i would get a 14''
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
December 29 2011 07:41 GMT
#16792
Lenovo is a good brand, don't be afraid to get one based on the brand name.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 29 2011 07:45 GMT
#16793
On December 29 2011 16:32 AAyeR wrote:
And, i would like a 15'' atleast.. don't think i would get a 14''


Y570 is 15" (though at that size, the typical 1366x768 is kind of low res). $695.20 option here:

link

i5-2430M, GT 555M (96 CUDA cores model, so pretty much the same as 550M, 540M, and 525M).

Lenovo's business laptop lines are more well known and regarded, but the IdeaPad models are still mostly okay. You're not going to get reasonable specs for gaming and great design and build quality and a good screen all for under $700 though, from anybody. I guess if you're willing to run SC2 on low, some other options may be more attractive (sacrificing graphics power for slimmer profile, higher battery life, higher build quality); if not, this is about what you're looking for.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
December 29 2011 08:30 GMT
#16794
what are my other options? I really like this one btw, but you don't sound to enthusiastic. do you think I should get a desktop instead? I think it's the right way to go, considering that I could start with just the tower, and use the monitor i have now.. and not really care about speakers , ( I am use to playing starcraft without sound ) , then later I could buy a new monitor and speakers... it seems like the right way to me now, since it would be my primary computer.. I'm sorry if I sound like I can't make up my mind, but classes start in about a week, and I want to make the best investment possible.. thank you so much for your myrmidon.. you are making me see more potential for my dollar in an upgradeable desktop. Your thoughts please...
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
December 29 2011 09:04 GMT
#16795
Just checking how much this would cost, not sure which case I like...

CPU 195$
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004EBUXHQ/ref=sr_1_1_olp?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1325094584&sr=1-1&condition=new&tag=tealiq-20

RAM 35$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220569

POWER SUPPLY 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

HEATSINK 30$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

MOTHABORED 130$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

HDD 85$
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B005CT56R6/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1325095966&sr=8-1&condition=new&tag=tealiq-20

VID CARD 164$ without rebate
http://www.amazon.com/SAPPHIRE-Radeon-6870-GDDR5-Graphics/dp/B005C8RTTU?tag=tealiq-20

and lets say the case cost 60$

OPTICAL DRIVE, I have a shitty one but say 20$


195+35+60+30+130+85+164+60+20=779 CAN U HELP ME MAKE SOME CUTS >_< I am about 80$ over my limit...
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 29 2011 09:11 GMT
#16796
Get rid of the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ and add it later when you have more money.

Get an Asrock P67 Pro3 instead for $100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Use your shitty optical drive.

And that's $80 off the total.
Cronosc2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany108 Posts
December 29 2011 09:26 GMT
#16797
On December 29 2011 13:19 Shiwoo wrote:
Alright. Thanks! If you don't mind checking over my build. This is what I am ordering tonight!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

I already bought the CPU (Intell i5-2400) at microcenter yesterday.
I do still need a case, but I am still looking for a good deal.
I also got a 1TB from a friend for $50.

Thanks!


thermaltake commander ms-1
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
December 29 2011 13:14 GMT
#16798
if youre looking for a case fractal design define r3 is great in mid budget but looking at newegg it seems a bit expensive in usa
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
MK1593
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3 Posts
December 29 2011 17:37 GMT
#16799
This is what I am deciding to go with. I think everything is compatible but if I could get other opinions that would be awesome. The computer will be used mostly for gaming but some everyday stuff as well. I possibly plan on overclocking in the future. One question I have is would a 128GB SSD suffice or do I need additional space? Im planning on buying from new egg since I'm in the US.

MB-ASUS P8Z68-VPRO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131790
CPU- Intel I5 2500K Sandy Bridge http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
RAM- G Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
SDD- Crucial M4 128 GB SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
Video Card- EVGA GE Force GTX560 Ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604
PS- Rosewill Capstone 650W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071
HSF- Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
Case- Coolermaster HAF 912 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
DVD- LG 22x DVD+r http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136240
Windows 7 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Does anyone see any issues or room for improvement without changing the price too much? Input on the SDD and HDD would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 29 2011 18:02 GMT
#16800
Well if you don't store any media files and don't use too many programs, I guess you could run on 128GB. Or if you have some external storage you're not telling us about.

Personally I'd forget about SLI and save $100 on the motherboard ($200 is too much regardless) and get the AsRock P67 Pro3 for $100.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

btw PCIe 3.0 is useless for gaming for graphics cards of current speeds, and your processor doesn't even support it. You could also save $30 by just using the Capstone 450W. Then you can easily afford a hard drive.

On that budget I'd consider swapping the heatpipe direct-touch Hyper 212 Plus with the Zalman CNPS10X Performa for just $8 more:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118059
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