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On December 01 2011 06:12 SleepTech wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So it's about time to get a video card. I've been using the integrated graphics with my i5 and MB and pretty much anything I run on it low is fine, but I'll be getting Skyrim soon so I'd like to buy a 560ti but I have a couple questions first. How much better will a new 560ti 448 core perform over an older version 560ti? 5%? 20%? How much better will a 570 perform over the new 560ti 448 cores? I'm looking at the MSI Twin Frozr III which is $309 right now, and I'm wondering if getting a ASUS gtx 570 is just better to do at $349. With that said, is this new architecture of GPU coming out 'soon' going to blow the old GPUs out of the water and will there be a competitive price range around the $300 mark for the new GPUs?
A GTX 560 Ti 448 is just a gimped GTX 570 - it performs very similar to that of a GTX 570.
The new 28nm GPUs will most likely blow the crap out of the current 40nm cards.
If you want to deal with mail in rebates, the GTX 570 is a better purchase. If not than the GTX 560 Ti 448.
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On December 01 2011 06:17 skyR wrote:
A GTX 560 Ti 448 is just a gimped GTX 570 - it performs very similar to that of a GTX 570.
The new 28nm GPUs will most likely blow the crap out of the current 40nm cards.
If you want to deal with mail in rebates, the GTX 570 is a better purchase. If not than the GTX 560 Ti 448.
And the new cards are scheduled for first quarter? Will the price point be around the same? I'm not sure of their naming schemes but would their be like a 660 equivalent around the $300 range?
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Depends on Radeons pricing, Radeon pricing is expected to be 7970 at 400$ and 7950 at 300$ but no one knows for sure naturally.
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Radeon HD7000 series is expected to debut in January and the GTX 600 is expected for some time after. The 7950 will most likely carry a MSRP of around $300 - there's no reason why it wouldn't when the Radeon HD6950 and GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr III models were as low as $200 during Black Friday.
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So it might just be better to wait until the new cards to come out to get better bang for my buck. I'm assuming a 570 would still run pretty decent for a couple years though in games correct?
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Hello guys i just wanted to know what you thing about this set. ( If there's something wrong, overkill or not compatible with other parts etc). I dont know very much what comes to these kind of things so better ask 
CPU: Core i5 2500K, LGA1155, 3.3 GHz, 6MB (Gonna OC it for sure)
Mobo: ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3, Z68
GPU: GeForce GTX 570 SuperClocked [797MHz], 1280MB GDDR5 320bit, 2xDVI/MiniHDMI (any problems with miniHDMI?)
G.Skill RipJaws-X DIMM Kit 8GB PC3-12800U CL9-9-9-24 (DDR3-1600) (Sandy Bridge)
PSU: Super Flower Golden Green Pro 550W
Freezer 13 Pro CPU-cooler, LGA775/1155/1366, AM2/AM3
case: http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=2912 (i think everything will fit there)
1TB SpinPoint F3 3.5", SATAII, 32MB, 7200RPM (dunno if thats good at all o.o)
Atm im playing starcraft 2, Skyrim and Bf3. D3 propably when it comes out and i want max out almost everything if possible. Streaming at 720p propably and making some music and editing frag movies for friends.
I dont know anything about SSD but if i want to add some later, can i?
Please tell me your opinions 
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On December 01 2011 07:02 stratozak wrote:Hello guys i just wanted to know what you thing about this set. ( If there's something wrong, overkill or not compatible with other parts etc). I dont know very much what comes to these kind of things so better ask CPU: Core i5 2500K, LGA1155, 3.3 GHz, 6MB (Gonna OC it for sure) Mobo: ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3, Z68 GPU: GeForce GTX 570 SuperClocked [797MHz], 1280MB GDDR5 320bit, 2xDVI/MiniHDMI (any problems with miniHDMI?) G.Skill RipJaws-X DIMM Kit 8GB PC3-12800U CL9-9-9-24 (DDR3-1600) (Sandy Bridge) PSU: Super Flower Golden Green Pro 550W Freezer 13 Pro CPU-cooler, LGA775/1155/1366, AM2/AM3 case: http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=2912 (i think everything will fit there) 1TB SpinPoint F3 3.5", SATAII, 32MB, 7200RPM (dunno if thats good at all o.o) Atm im playing starcraft 2, Skyrim and Bf3. D3 propably when it comes out and i want max out almost everything if possible. Streaming at 720p propably and making some music and editing frag movies for friends. I dont know anything about SSD but if i want to add some later, can i? Please tell me your opinions
Is pretty much a perfect build though I'm not sure about the case, but if you need it for lans its still good
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Thanks shikyo you chose the PSU yesterday btw ; )
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I just noticed that the ASUS DirectCU version of the GTX 560 Ti 448 is a triple-slot card... is there any real advantage to that sort of design, or does it just block off yet another PCIe slot for no good reason?
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On December 01 2011 07:27 Gara wrote:
I just noticed that the ASUS DirectCU version of the GTX 560 Ti 448 is a triple-slot card... is there any real advantage to that sort of design, or does it just block off yet another PCIe slot for no good reason?
Allowing the heatsink and fans to be wider, such that the card takes three slots, allows it to run cooler and with lower noise than most two-slot designs. Obviously it's an advantage to be able to fit more heatsink metal and be able to use wider fans? You can find Asus DirectCU triple-slot coolers on GTX 570, GTX 580, HD 6970, etc. already, and plenty of reviews of those. If the extra slot is not a problem, they're among the best.
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Thanks skyR for the answer. I waited on buying the parts as I was unable to get the 2500k from microcenter like I had originally wanted to, and I was recommended to buy the motherboard + cpu at the same time/from the same place in case there were any complications with the parts. (Not sure how true this is, anyone else able to comment?)
I guess I will have to wait and hope the after christmas sale will have deals that are similiar (only things that I have purchased so far are the case + after market cooler- any way for me to tell if these parts are doa?)
And from the sounds of what you were saying, it sounds like its not worth waiting for the 6870 to fall in price if I'm looking to buy the computer in december/jan?
Also- any other motherboards you would recommend then in the 80-100 dollar range (or any decent ones that might fall to the 80 dollar range during christmas sales? Looking to spend 250-300 on the 2500k+ whatever motherboard I get.
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On December 01 2011 06:45 SleepTech wrote:
So it might just be better to wait until the new cards to come out to get better bang for my buck. I'm assuming a 570 would still run pretty decent for a couple years though in games correct?
Under the current gaming trend it should last quite a long time because console technology is ancient. When Sony and Microsoft come out with new consoles the PC ceiling will be lifted.
Nintendo's next system is slated to use technology from late 2010 so it is already obsolete before a single prototype has even been built.
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On December 01 2011 07:43 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 07:27 Gara wrote:
I just noticed that the ASUS DirectCU version of the GTX 560 Ti 448 is a triple-slot card... is there any real advantage to that sort of design, or does it just block off yet another PCIe slot for no good reason? Allowing the heatsink and fans to be wider, such that the card takes three slots, allows it to run cooler and with lower noise than most two-slot designs. Obviously it's an advantage to be able to fit more heatsink metal and be able to use wider fans? You can find Asus DirectCU triple-slot coolers on GTX 570, GTX 580, HD 6970, etc. already, and plenty of reviews of those. If the extra slot is not a problem, they're among the best.
Interesting... I guess you just have to be more careful with your choice of motherboard then in case you still want good expandability with the other PCI and PCIe slots. I'd just never seen such a bulky-looking graphics card before, and I was intrigued; it does look like it has an impressive amount of rear ventilation.
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On December 01 2011 09:49 Gara wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 07:43 Myrmidon wrote:On December 01 2011 07:27 Gara wrote:
I just noticed that the ASUS DirectCU version of the GTX 560 Ti 448 is a triple-slot card... is there any real advantage to that sort of design, or does it just block off yet another PCIe slot for no good reason? Allowing the heatsink and fans to be wider, such that the card takes three slots, allows it to run cooler and with lower noise than most two-slot designs. Obviously it's an advantage to be able to fit more heatsink metal and be able to use wider fans? You can find Asus DirectCU triple-slot coolers on GTX 570, GTX 580, HD 6970, etc. already, and plenty of reviews of those. If the extra slot is not a problem, they're among the best. Interesting... I guess you just have to be more careful with your choice of motherboard then in case you still want good expandability with the other PCI and PCIe slots. I'd just never seen such a bulky-looking graphics card before, and I was intrigued; it does look like it has an impressive amount of rear ventilation.
http://images.hqvia.com/Bitchin-fast-3D-2000.jpg
425 bungholio marks don't lie!
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On December 01 2011 05:43 skyR wrote:No point in purchasing a H61 motherboard for $85. mATX H67 motherboards cost the same. If you need a ATX motherboard for whatever reason, it's $5 more for a ATX H67 board. Since you are getting an Intel 320 which is SATA 3Gbps and not 6Gbps, you can stick with a H61 motherboard, so pick one of the least expensive ones which are around $50-$60 - all of these will be mATX. You didn't explain why you need an ATX board. You don't need memory with heatspreaders. There are several 2x4gb 1333MHz cas9 kits for close to $30. For a non-overclocked single GPU configuration - you just need a ~500w unit, something such as the Antec Neo Eco 520C, XFX Core Edition 450 / 550, Antec High Current Gamer 520, Seasonic S12II 520, and Antec Earthwatts 500 / 650. A Radeon HD6950 is sort of overkill for Starcraft II and Diablo III, you would be fine with a Radeon HD6850 which is about $100 less expensive. If you want an inexpensive case, you can get a Bitfenix Merc Alpha for about $40 or Coolermaster Elite 370 for about $32, both from NCIX.
Thanks for the reply. How does this updated list look:
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I'm thinking about getting a Z68 mobo instead of a P67 so I can wait to buy new video card. Is the integrated Intel HD 3000 good enough to run sc2?
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On December 01 2011 10:15 Shinshin wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a Z68 mobo instead of a P67 so I can wait to buy new video card. Is the integrated Intel HD 3000 good enough to run sc2?
I have a Asrock z68 extreme3 gen3 MB and no video card and I can easily run SCII on low at 1080p. And as per my conversations above here, I'll probably wait until the new gen of video cards come out before I buy one.
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On December 01 2011 09:58 Medrea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 09:49 Gara wrote:On December 01 2011 07:43 Myrmidon wrote:On December 01 2011 07:27 Gara wrote:
I just noticed that the ASUS DirectCU version of the GTX 560 Ti 448 is a triple-slot card... is there any real advantage to that sort of design, or does it just block off yet another PCIe slot for no good reason? Allowing the heatsink and fans to be wider, such that the card takes three slots, allows it to run cooler and with lower noise than most two-slot designs. Obviously it's an advantage to be able to fit more heatsink metal and be able to use wider fans? You can find Asus DirectCU triple-slot coolers on GTX 570, GTX 580, HD 6970, etc. already, and plenty of reviews of those. If the extra slot is not a problem, they're among the best. Interesting... I guess you just have to be more careful with your choice of motherboard then in case you still want good expandability with the other PCI and PCIe slots. I'd just never seen such a bulky-looking graphics card before, and I was intrigued; it does look like it has an impressive amount of rear ventilation. http://images.hqvia.com/Bitchin-fast-3D-2000.jpg425 bungholio marks don't lie!
haha, I especially like how it "does not fit into any case known to man"
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