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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 23:02:01
November 23 2011 23:01 GMT
#15101
On November 24 2011 07:57 SCDPetrify wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hello! I'm planning on building a new computer over thanksgiving break. It is for gaming, streaming, and programming. I may do some video editing and stuff like that, but no hardcore. Basically -- I like to run a lot of stuff at once!

So just glancing threw newegg and doing a little bit of research this is the first one I came up with. My budget is around 2.3k...

[image loading]

Any thoughts or pieces you think I should replace? I don't really want that case, I want one that looks awesome. I'm currently using a HaF Coolmaster 932 and I love it but a change of scenery would be nice. I'm also planning on doing RAID-1.. Or is it RAID-0.. forgot

Thanks!

So far I've learned :

2 gtx360s would be better than the 380
The hardrives suck
The ram sucks


There is no such thing as a GTX 360 or GTX 380.

You should have read the responses in your other thread and revised your build...

On November 24 2011 07:31 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
2600k should be fine for that budget.

However, you have some weird choices. That RAM sucks and you can get 2 8gb kits for better 1600mhz RAM for like 76$ total.

The hard drive choices are atrocious, come on those are like 400% overpriced...? Try to survive with the SSD until the prices go back to normal if at all possible, or alternatively use your old HDD.

GTX 580 is ok but I consider it overkill, GTX 570 should be enough and I'd actually SLi GTX 560s instead of getting a 580 because they have higher performance and cost less.

That case is just horrible, HAF 932 is much better. Just use it.

I'd get Hyper 212 EVO instead for that budget.

You don't need that PSU, get a quality 600W PSU. The 700W Xigmatek PSU should be more than good enough for you and it's for sale at 60$.

Your build should cost like 1400$ at most with these changes.

On November 24 2011 07:32 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Bad build.

Why the **** would you pair flagship hardware with such a shit case? Pick a better case or just leave it on your table. I'm not even sure if Antec Three Hundred can fit a GTX 580.

Why are you getting Caviar Blacks? You realize they're similar in performance to that of other 7200 RPM HDDs? 1TB HDDs are like around $140, why would you pay an extra $100 for two extra years of warranty?

Why are you getting an P8Z68-V Pro? It's basically identical to that of a P8Z68-V.

Why are you getting a HyperX when Crucial M4 is less expensive, similar in performance, and has a much better track record in stability than Sandforce?

Why are you getting XMS3 when both Vengeance and Ripjaws X are less expensive?

I prefer Corsair AX but HX is fine as well.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 23:10:29
November 23 2011 23:10 GMT
#15102
You don't need that mobo...

P8p67 is enough, if you want "ivybridge compatibility" get extreme3.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
November 23 2011 23:16 GMT
#15103
On November 24 2011 08:01 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 07:57 SCDPetrify wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hello! I'm planning on building a new computer over thanksgiving break. It is for gaming, streaming, and programming. I may do some video editing and stuff like that, but no hardcore. Basically -- I like to run a lot of stuff at once!

So just glancing threw newegg and doing a little bit of research this is the first one I came up with. My budget is around 2.3k...

[image loading]

Any thoughts or pieces you think I should replace? I don't really want that case, I want one that looks awesome. I'm currently using a HaF Coolmaster 932 and I love it but a change of scenery would be nice. I'm also planning on doing RAID-1.. Or is it RAID-0.. forgot

Thanks!

So far I've learned :

2 gtx360s would be better than the 380
The hardrives suck
The ram sucks


There is no such thing as a GTX 360 or GTX 380.

You should have read the responses in your other thread and revised your build...

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 07:31 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
2600k should be fine for that budget.

However, you have some weird choices. That RAM sucks and you can get 2 8gb kits for better 1600mhz RAM for like 76$ total.

The hard drive choices are atrocious, come on those are like 400% overpriced...? Try to survive with the SSD until the prices go back to normal if at all possible, or alternatively use your old HDD.

GTX 580 is ok but I consider it overkill, GTX 570 should be enough and I'd actually SLi GTX 560s instead of getting a 580 because they have higher performance and cost less.

That case is just horrible, HAF 932 is much better. Just use it.

I'd get Hyper 212 EVO instead for that budget.

You don't need that PSU, get a quality 600W PSU. The 700W Xigmatek PSU should be more than good enough for you and it's for sale at 60$.

Your build should cost like 1400$ at most with these changes.

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 07:32 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Bad build.

Why the **** would you pair flagship hardware with such a shit case? Pick a better case or just leave it on your table. I'm not even sure if Antec Three Hundred can fit a GTX 580.

Why are you getting Caviar Blacks? You realize they're similar in performance to that of other 7200 RPM HDDs? 1TB HDDs are like around $140, why would you pay an extra $100 for two extra years of warranty?

Why are you getting an P8Z68-V Pro? It's basically identical to that of a P8Z68-V.

Why are you getting a HyperX when Crucial M4 is less expensive, similar in performance, and has a much better track record in stability than Sandforce?

Why are you getting XMS3 when both Vengeance and Ripjaws X are less expensive?

I prefer Corsair AX but HX is fine as well.


oops meant to say 560, i have a 295 now and its amazing how far its gone from there
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
November 23 2011 23:47 GMT
#15104
On November 24 2011 08:01 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 07:57 SCDPetrify wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hello! I'm planning on building a new computer over thanksgiving break. It is for gaming, streaming, and programming. I may do some video editing and stuff like that, but no hardcore. Basically -- I like to run a lot of stuff at once!

So just glancing threw newegg and doing a little bit of research this is the first one I came up with. My budget is around 2.3k...

[image loading]

Any thoughts or pieces you think I should replace? I don't really want that case, I want one that looks awesome. I'm currently using a HaF Coolmaster 932 and I love it but a change of scenery would be nice. I'm also planning on doing RAID-1.. Or is it RAID-0.. forgot

Thanks!

So far I've learned :

2 gtx360s would be better than the 380
The hardrives suck
The ram sucks


There is no such thing as a GTX 360 or GTX 380.

You should have read the responses in your other thread and revised your build...

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 07:31 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
2600k should be fine for that budget.

However, you have some weird choices. That RAM sucks and you can get 2 8gb kits for better 1600mhz RAM for like 76$ total.

The hard drive choices are atrocious, come on those are like 400% overpriced...? Try to survive with the SSD until the prices go back to normal if at all possible, or alternatively use your old HDD.

GTX 580 is ok but I consider it overkill, GTX 570 should be enough and I'd actually SLi GTX 560s instead of getting a 580 because they have higher performance and cost less.

That case is just horrible, HAF 932 is much better. Just use it.

I'd get Hyper 212 EVO instead for that budget.

You don't need that PSU, get a quality 600W PSU. The 700W Xigmatek PSU should be more than good enough for you and it's for sale at 60$.

Your build should cost like 1400$ at most with these changes.

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 07:32 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Bad build.

Why the **** would you pair flagship hardware with such a shit case? Pick a better case or just leave it on your table. I'm not even sure if Antec Three Hundred can fit a GTX 580.

Why are you getting Caviar Blacks? You realize they're similar in performance to that of other 7200 RPM HDDs? 1TB HDDs are like around $140, why would you pay an extra $100 for two extra years of warranty?

Why are you getting an P8Z68-V Pro? It's basically identical to that of a P8Z68-V.

Why are you getting a HyperX when Crucial M4 is less expensive, similar in performance, and has a much better track record in stability than Sandforce?

Why are you getting XMS3 when both Vengeance and Ripjaws X are less expensive?

I prefer Corsair AX but HX is fine as well.


If my parts are bad, I want to get better parts for the same amount of money - not equal parts for less money.

I would love some direct newegg links to better parts of the same price! Thanks :D

Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 23 2011 23:50 GMT
#15105
You should have a goal of what you want and then get it for cheapest money...

it's highly possible you won't even notice the effect of the extra money you spend
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 23 2011 23:53 GMT
#15106
Ideas of upgrades to make instead of things you probably won't notice in the build itself: monitor, keyboard, mouse, chair, speakers, headphones, microphone, desk, light, etc. Those types of things can actually be noticed and won't go horribly out of date in 3 years.
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
November 23 2011 23:57 GMT
#15107
On November 24 2011 08:53 Myrmidon wrote:
Ideas of upgrades to make instead of things you probably won't notice in the build itself: monitor, keyboard, mouse, chair, speakers, headphones, microphone, desk, light, etc. Those types of things can actually be noticed and won't go horribly out of date in 3 years.


All of that stuff is perfect, and I don't want to replace it. Just trying to find the best parts for around 2.3k
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 24 2011 00:04 GMT
#15108
On November 24 2011 08:57 SCDPetrify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 08:53 Myrmidon wrote:
Ideas of upgrades to make instead of things you probably won't notice in the build itself: monitor, keyboard, mouse, chair, speakers, headphones, microphone, desk, light, etc. Those types of things can actually be noticed and won't go horribly out of date in 3 years.


All of that stuff is perfect, and I don't want to replace it. Just trying to find the best parts for around 2.3k

What's your monitor?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 24 2011 00:07 GMT
#15109
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314 sale 8gb 1600mhz ripjaws for 30$
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 24 2011 00:14 GMT
#15110
On November 24 2011 08:47 SCDPetrify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 08:01 skyR wrote:
On November 24 2011 07:57 SCDPetrify wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hello! I'm planning on building a new computer over thanksgiving break. It is for gaming, streaming, and programming. I may do some video editing and stuff like that, but no hardcore. Basically -- I like to run a lot of stuff at once!

So just glancing threw newegg and doing a little bit of research this is the first one I came up with. My budget is around 2.3k...

[image loading]

Any thoughts or pieces you think I should replace? I don't really want that case, I want one that looks awesome. I'm currently using a HaF Coolmaster 932 and I love it but a change of scenery would be nice. I'm also planning on doing RAID-1.. Or is it RAID-0.. forgot

Thanks!

So far I've learned :

2 gtx360s would be better than the 380
The hardrives suck
The ram sucks


There is no such thing as a GTX 360 or GTX 380.

You should have read the responses in your other thread and revised your build...

On November 24 2011 07:31 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
2600k should be fine for that budget.

However, you have some weird choices. That RAM sucks and you can get 2 8gb kits for better 1600mhz RAM for like 76$ total.

The hard drive choices are atrocious, come on those are like 400% overpriced...? Try to survive with the SSD until the prices go back to normal if at all possible, or alternatively use your old HDD.

GTX 580 is ok but I consider it overkill, GTX 570 should be enough and I'd actually SLi GTX 560s instead of getting a 580 because they have higher performance and cost less.

That case is just horrible, HAF 932 is much better. Just use it.

I'd get Hyper 212 EVO instead for that budget.

You don't need that PSU, get a quality 600W PSU. The 700W Xigmatek PSU should be more than good enough for you and it's for sale at 60$.

Your build should cost like 1400$ at most with these changes.

On November 24 2011 07:32 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Bad build.

Why the **** would you pair flagship hardware with such a shit case? Pick a better case or just leave it on your table. I'm not even sure if Antec Three Hundred can fit a GTX 580.

Why are you getting Caviar Blacks? You realize they're similar in performance to that of other 7200 RPM HDDs? 1TB HDDs are like around $140, why would you pay an extra $100 for two extra years of warranty?

Why are you getting an P8Z68-V Pro? It's basically identical to that of a P8Z68-V.

Why are you getting a HyperX when Crucial M4 is less expensive, similar in performance, and has a much better track record in stability than Sandforce?

Why are you getting XMS3 when both Vengeance and Ripjaws X are less expensive?

I prefer Corsair AX but HX is fine as well.


If my parts are bad, I want to get better parts for the same amount of money - not equal parts for less money.

I would love some direct newegg links to better parts of the same price! Thanks :D



Your performance will not increase drastically when going from a $1,400 build to a $2,400 build if it's just for gaming.

It will increase, but the price-performance ratio is atrocious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 24 2011 00:26 GMT
#15111
[image loading]

Recycle your old case and HDDs. Rofl.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
November 24 2011 00:34 GMT
#15112
On November 24 2011 09:26 Shikyo wrote:
[image loading]

Recycle your old case and HDDs. Rofl.


I'm selling my old shit o.o
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 00:58:44
November 24 2011 00:37 GMT
#15113
Not too intelligent with the HDD prices but you don't seem to mind wasting money. But that's my build for 2300$.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
November 24 2011 00:56 GMT
#15114
You can just buy "cheap" external HDD, 2tb 100$ something, clamp it open and put that HDD to your pc, they are normal sata2 drives mostly. Times are tough...
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 24 2011 00:58 GMT
#15115
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60009&vpn=SCSO-1000&manufacture=Scythe

Thiiis deal WTF?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 24 2011 00:59 GMT
#15116
On November 24 2011 09:37 Shikyo wrote:
Not too intelligent with the HDD prices but you don't seem to mind wasting money. But that's my build for 2300$.


SLI GTX 590s very well might cause the system to draw more than 1000w btw.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
November 24 2011 01:00 GMT
#15117
On November 24 2011 09:34 SCDPetrify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 09:26 Shikyo wrote:
[image loading]

Recycle your old case and HDDs. Rofl.


I'm selling my old shit o.o

wait. why the fuck do you have dual 590s with a 2500k?!?!?! you might as well knock off a 590 and get yourself a 2700k or better. Otherwise, you're gonna be bottlenecking yourself like a bitch.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 01:02:39
November 24 2011 01:01 GMT
#15118
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-590-sli-review/3

Don't got a bulldozer in my build.

On November 24 2011 10:00 da_head wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 09:34 SCDPetrify wrote:
On November 24 2011 09:26 Shikyo wrote:
[image loading]

Recycle your old case and HDDs. Rofl.


I'm selling my old shit o.o

wait. why the fuck do you have dual 590s with a 2500k?!?!?! you might as well knock off a 590 and get yourself a 2700k or better. Otherwise, you're gonna be bottlenecking yourself like a bitch.

Those extra 200mhz really useful man but cant fit it into 2300$
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 24 2011 01:07 GMT
#15119
On November 24 2011 10:01 Shikyo wrote:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-590-sli-review/3

Don't got a bulldozer in my build.

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 10:00 da_head wrote:
On November 24 2011 09:34 SCDPetrify wrote:
On November 24 2011 09:26 Shikyo wrote:
[image loading]

Recycle your old case and HDDs. Rofl.


I'm selling my old shit o.o

wait. why the fuck do you have dual 590s with a 2500k?!?!?! you might as well knock off a 590 and get yourself a 2700k or better. Otherwise, you're gonna be bottlenecking yourself like a bitch.

Those extra 200mhz really useful man but cant fit it into 2300$


You're simply pushing it when you're putting in hardware that expensive btw. Looks like these guys used an i7 and they said their power draw was 1100w. Even the site you linked suggested 1,000w+. It probably would suffice, but when you're already going balls out, you might as well kick it up, no?

http://www.fudzilla.com/reviews/item/22430-gtx-590-quad-sli-tested/22430-gtx-590-quad-sli-tested?start=1
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 24 2011 01:14 GMT
#15120
Measured power consumption two cards in QUAD GPU SLI

System in IDLE = 289W
System Wattage with GPU in FULL Stress = 890W
Difference (GPU load) = 601W
Add average IDLE wattage ~ 100W
Subjective obtained GPU power consumption = ~701W

Bear in mind that the system wattage is measured from the wall socket and is for the entire PC.


Processor

Core i7 965 Extreme @ 3750 MHz

Also they didn't mention what their PSU is but assuming it's 80+ gold that still consumes less than 800w.

How would 1000 not be enough? -___-
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