• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:12
CET 04:12
KST 12:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners4Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!21$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage Practice Partners (Official) [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1676 users

Computer Build Resource Thread - Page 751

Forum Index > Tech Support
Post a Reply
Prev 1 749 750 751 752 753 1626 Next
When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 21:25:48
November 21 2011 21:24 GMT
#15001
The only thing I'll add to skyr's build is that if it's absolutely necessary to stay below 700 change processor to this: pricematch www.ncix.com/products/?sku=59192&vpn=BX80623I32120 with www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD4011
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
November 21 2011 22:38 GMT
#15002
im planning to get this card http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0369115
would a 520 w power supply with 28A on the +12v rail run it? if i'm too vague i can clarify some more
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 21 2011 22:43 GMT
#15003
so as its a 520w psu with such a crappy 12v rail I assume it lists peak power in which case the continuous power would be around 24a I believe. So basically, no unless it's a sandybridge CPU and even then I'd replace it.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
November 21 2011 23:02 GMT
#15004
On November 22 2011 07:38 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
im planning to get this card http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0369115
would a 520 w power supply with 28A on the +12v rail run it? if i'm too vague i can clarify some more


Whats the brand and the model number of your psu?
28a on the 12v rail is more like a 350-400W psu. If its a decent unit (which I highly doubt) It could probably run the card.
So either open up your computer case and take a picture or give us the model numbe r+ brand.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 21 2011 23:19 GMT
#15005
As I said, a 520w unit that lists 28A on the 12V rail is not a quality unit and as such is generally going to be listing peak power instead of constant power so I'd say the rail's actually less than 28A.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
AnDa1120
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada472 Posts
November 21 2011 23:20 GMT
#15006
Is the AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition any good?
http://www.twitch.tv/area51_anda | @ahandyhoang | areaAnDa.751 | Terran | NaDa ♥
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 23:25:27
November 21 2011 23:25 GMT
#15007
Not really, depends on the purpose. I guess it's ok if you're upgrading from Athlon II x2 or something.

By the way, this is a CPU bottleneck if I've ever seen one:
http://www.jimms.fi/tuoteinfo/JIMMS-GAMER-GRENADE?pid=1321917834302

And I thought that this store was an honorable one -.-
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 23:30:12
November 21 2011 23:29 GMT
#15008
On November 22 2011 08:19 Shikyo wrote:
As I said, a 520w unit that lists 28A on the 12V rail is not a quality unit and as such is generally going to be listing peak power instead of constant power so I'd say the rail's actually less than 28A.


Listing peak power doesn't make it a bad power supply. Andyson does it all the time and they do have some pretty decent/good PSU's.
Liteon allso does it and I've seen FSP do it too.

Those might all not be the best, but they create perfectly serviceable psu's.

[edit]
Corsair does it too.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 21 2011 23:40 GMT
#15009
I'm pretty sure all Corsair power supplies are rated for continuous power.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 21 2011 23:43 GMT
#15010
On November 22 2011 08:29 Madoga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 08:19 Shikyo wrote:
As I said, a 520w unit that lists 28A on the 12V rail is not a quality unit and as such is generally going to be listing peak power instead of constant power so I'd say the rail's actually less than 28A.


Listing peak power doesn't make it a bad power supply. Andyson does it all the time and they do have some pretty decent/good PSU's.
Liteon allso does it and I've seen FSP do it too.

Those might all not be the best, but they create perfectly serviceable psu's.

[edit]
Corsair does it too.

...

This PSU is a 520w PSU that rates 12V rail at 28A.

Do you even understand what that implies?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 23:50:26
November 21 2011 23:50 GMT
#15011
On November 22 2011 08:40 skyR wrote:
I'm pretty sure all Corsair power supplies are rated for continuous power.


Yes, but realisticly some of their psu's should be rated lower. For example the cx430 should be a 380 or 400W unit looking at the 12v rail.

On November 22 2011 08:43 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 08:29 Madoga wrote:
On November 22 2011 08:19 Shikyo wrote:
As I said, a 520w unit that lists 28A on the 12V rail is not a quality unit and as such is generally going to be listing peak power instead of constant power so I'd say the rail's actually less than 28A.


Listing peak power doesn't make it a bad power supply. Andyson does it all the time and they do have some pretty decent/good PSU's.
Liteon allso does it and I've seen FSP do it too.

Those might all not be the best, but they create perfectly serviceable psu's.

[edit]
Corsair does it too.

...

This PSU is a 520w PSU that rates 12V rail at 28A.

Do you even understand what that implies?


It implies its a 350-400W psu and that the brand that sold it where most likely lying or that its a very old model. The wattage over the 12v rail doesn't say anything about the quality of the unit.

Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 23:57:40
November 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#15012
Link me to a high quality power supply thats 12v rail is 65% of the total power? Oh you can't?

Well then, link me to a low quality power supply that rates by continuous power and is honest about it. Maybe that would be possible...

All I said was that according to the 12v to max wattage ratio, it's probably a low quality PSU which means that it's likely rated by max amperage, which means that the practical amperage you should consider on 12v is maybe 24A.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 00:03:06
November 22 2011 00:01 GMT
#15013
You dont understand what im saying. Besides, I never said it would be a high quality power supply. I said that it might be perfectly serviceable as a ~400W psu.

As for some examples:
My own psu, hiper type R. Its a 580W psu with 360W over the 12v rail. Its a good powersupply. The only thinhg wrong with it, is that its old.
Another example is the andyson e-series(nuclear). the nuclear 850 is a good 750W unit with 650W over the 12v rail.

[edit]
here a review:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Andyson-Nuclear-850-Power-Supply-Review/1235
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 00:09:23
November 22 2011 00:08 GMT
#15014
650W on 12v rail on a 750w unit is actually pretty normal for 80+ or 80+ bronze units

Also I don't think your hiper would pass my "good psu" requirements.

There's "good" 500w FSP power supplies that have 15A on the 12v rail. By good I assume you mean, they don't explode? That's not what I mean by good.

Also all I was saying was, it'll be rated by max amperage so the effective amperage is lower. You haven't been arguing against this point at all. What's your point?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 00:16:43
November 22 2011 00:13 GMT
#15015
According to andyson Its a 850W units (which it can do)
/facepalm

Allso stop saying good, cus thats what you're making of it.

For the last time, im talking about if its serviceable. Serviceable means that it wont go out of spec and/or damage other components or blow up.

Also all I was saying was, it'll be rated by max amperage so the effective amperage is lower. You haven't been arguing against this point at all. What's your point?

that makes no sense since the ocp trip point mostly is higher than whats on the sticker.

My point is that you can say something is bad if you dont even know what kind of unit it is.
but as I said before, its probably a crappy unit, but it might be servicable as a 400W unit.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 00:18:23
November 22 2011 00:15 GMT
#15016
850W is peak power 750w is continuous power it lists both o_o read the label
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/fullimage.php?image=33864

Even if it's serviceable as a 400w unit my point is that the 12v is probably rated by max amperage and so you should instead think of it as like 24A or somesuch for practical purposes.

I still don't understand what you're arguing about so I guess you can have fun doing that
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 01:02:35
November 22 2011 00:19 GMT
#15017
As i said, its rated by peak power since they call it Nuclear 850 and not nuclear 750.

Ps.
I'm not argueing, im correcting you because you're making ungrounded assumptions. You're telling someone his psu sux without even knowing what unit it is. I have to agree that its proabably not very good or pretty old. But without knowing more you can't say whether its a bad unit or not.
imJukin
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States47 Posts
November 22 2011 00:22 GMT
#15018
I went ahead and went with the i7-3930k should be here by wednesday or friday, but I had a quick question on additional cooling, right now I will be recieving the gaia 30$ cooler with 2011 bracket so thats fine and dandy(will only clock to ~4k), but I want to push the OC to about 4.4 or 4.5 safely so these are my two options im considering unless you have a better idea.

Noctua NH-DH14 SE2011
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=41&lng=en (Newegg doesn't have it available yet, but I was able to find it on Amazon and a couple other sites for 85-95$, most places haven't recieved thier stock yet just released this month)

or

CORSAIR H80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016

No rush on ordering, but ideas and advice would be appreciated. Will be ordering new heatsink or liquid cooling before Christmas time this year.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 22 2011 00:30 GMT
#15019
NH-D14 is better.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 00:32:21
November 22 2011 00:31 GMT
#15020
gaia should be totally fine for 4.4 - 4.5ghz. Try with that first gosh.

Also I'd go for silver arrow if necessary and if they get a 2011 bracket but NH-D14 is pretty good. Still gaia should be enough.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Prev 1 749 750 751 752 753 1626 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
WardiTV Mondays #58
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
22:00
Masters Cup 150 Open Qual
davetesta61
Liquipedia
LAN Event
18:00
Day 3: Ursa 2v2, FFA
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 188
NeuroSwarm 153
ProTech129
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7622
Artosis 696
Shuttle 636
actioN 399
Sharp 257
Noble 66
Icarus 3
Dota 2
LuMiX1
Other Games
tarik_tv10623
summit1g9874
JimRising 359
WinterStarcraft259
C9.Mang0253
ViBE163
FrodaN127
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick790
Counter-Strike
PGL131
Other Games
BasetradeTV86
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21479
League of Legends
• Stunt209
Other Games
• Scarra536
Upcoming Events
OSC
8h 48m
LAN Event
11h 48m
Korean StarCraft League
23h 48m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 6h
LAN Event
1d 11h
IPSL
1d 14h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
1d 16h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
1d 19h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.