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The P280 looks like a cheaper version of the P183 that is easier to work in. The only troublesome part I can see are the top fan mounts leaking noise however you can easily block those off with electrical tape, cardboard, and ice cream lids. Still bloody huge but since its a workstation I don't think you'll mind too much...
Coolermaster HAF 922 and NZXT’s H2 Classic Series Silent Mid Tower Chassis
HAF 922 doesn't look very nice compared to the styling of a Lian Li case and doesn't have dust filters. H2 has a troublesome front intakes where it is far too restrictive...its not a bad case but has a really fatal flaw that you can't really work around.
For motherboard, I'd probably look at a Asus P8Z68-V, or something similar, for a workstation with a decent budget. Intel NICs, NEC USB3.0 connectors, Bluetooth (maybe useful?), tons of back panel ports, QuickSync, front panel USB3.0 header connector, good power delivery and very easy to use BIOS are all good things.
For GPU, I would wait until you want to buy a new computer. The only major new thing that will be released during February and March are AMD's new GPUs and they should be very good.
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Ok, well now it's looking something like this (if I were to build it now):
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge
RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 16GB (4 x 4GB)
SSD: Intel 320 Series 160GB
HDD: -(x1) Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EALX 1TB
-(x2) Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB
Heatsink: Need some help
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V
GPU: EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Case: Antec P280
PSU: Undecided, maybe Cooler Master's Silent Pro RS-600-AMBA-D3?
Firewire Card: SIIG 3 Ports FireWire 800 Model NN-FW0012-S1
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-B123L
Could I get some help with the heatsink and PSU?
Also are there any goods alternatives to the P280? I don't really like the look of it, but I guess I could compromise that for it's functionability and quietness.
And thanks to everyone so far, I know I am being quite tedious here, but I'm a very big newbie.
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Fractal Design Define R3?
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On November 18 2011 09:22 skyR wrote:
Fractal Design Define R3?
Wow, looks really nice! Can I get a second opinion on this? From what I read it does very well in terms of a silent pc.
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Some features implemented worse than the Antec but if you like how it looks, you probably wouldn't be disappointed in it. Its certainly a slick looking case.
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Yes, any 560Ti should be more than sufficient. I dunno which style of 560Ti would be the quietest in a fractal case, sorry. To be honest though, you could simply ask about that from the more knowledgeable people on the forum when you're ready to buy.
As for heatsink, I've heard the gelid tranquillo is very quiet, although it's generally to be used for moderate overclocks and not trying to push the envelope. I dunno if you can overclock on a fanless HR-02 macho, but for non-overclocking it works as a silent heatsink. It comes with a relatively quiet fan for overclocking as well, as I recall.
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Ok cool, I guess I'll go for the Fractal. Now just the PSU and heatsink. For the PSU, how does a Cooler Master Silent Pro RS-600-AMBA-D3 sound? As for the heatsink, I'm completely lost.
edit: didn't see your post. I'll take a look at the gelid tranquillo.
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Would I be able to use the HR-02 macho with the fan if I overclocked, or would it not be able to cope/be too noisy? In terms of noise, I'm happy if it's relatively quiet and it does not need to be completely silent. Should I go for something more expensive? E.g.Thermaltake Frio OCK or Noctua NH-D14? Also, just based on what I read, the Gelid Tranquillo won't be able to cope with an overclocked CPU  .
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The Frio and the NH-D14 are good coolers, but they're not the quietest. There's just a tradeoff when you have higher-speed fans. For instance, the Thermaltake Jing and Frio are a very similar product, but the Jing's fans run slower and are purposely designed somewhat inefficiently to reduce noise rather than focus air. So the Frio will cool better. Sandy bridge CPUs don't draw a ton of power even overclocked, so like I said, a Tranquillo should be fine unless you're trying to get as aggressive an overclock as possible. Then it's not good enough.
Anyway, I should probably let those on the forum who know more than I chime in. I was just browsing quiet coolers for fun today and I'd noticed the gelid had very low decibel ratings in a few reviews. These other guys on the forum know more real-world stuff than me.
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What sort of performance increases do you see with a small SSD (80gb) for things like games and the OS, and using a hard drive for the rest of your things, as opposed to just getting the hard drive?
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For games: faster load times, which makes it a bigger deal for single player than multi-player. For instance, the loading screen for a SC2 map will finish much faster if SC2 is on an SSD, but that won't matter if your opponent on b.net has a slow-ass hard drive. During the actual playing the game segment (rather than moving between areas in an RPG, for instance), an SSD provides basically no benefit. Although I have heard that some MMOs benefit from SSDs if they need to load new textures fast. For single-player games, the decreased loading time can be really nice.
For OS: primarily faster boot speeds. Basically an SSD reduces time spent accessing the hard drive. If you notice yourself waiting for the hard drive a lot now, an SSD will reduce that time significantly (for things that are on the SSD).
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so, would replacing the optical drive on a laptop with a 80gb SSD, and just buying an external optical drive for a total of 200$ be worth it?
EDIT: and when would the limited amount of saves become an issue? (as in when would i be running out of those writes)
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After reading around a bit, I like the sound of the Thermalright Silver Arrow. Right now I've got:
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge
RAM: CORSAIR XMS3 16GB (4 x 4GB)
SSD: Intel 320 Series 160GB
HDD: -(x1) Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EALX 1TB
-(x2) Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB
Heatsink/Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V
GPU: EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Case: Fractal Design Define R3 (usb 3 version)
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro RS-600-AMBA-D3
Firewire Card: SIIG 3 Ports FireWire 800 Model NN-FW0012-S1
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-B123L
Does this sound good?
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On November 18 2011 07:12 DeSu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 07:03 Ata wrote:
1-Why are you buying an intel 320 series? your mobo is going to support SATA3 so I would take advantage of the new SSDs.
2-I dont think you can/should game on dual screen. (either 1 or 3) Which SSD would you recommend? I would like to have ~160GB of space. Well, I guess I'll keep gaming to one screen, but I still would like to use a dual screen setup for audio/video/image work. I guess this would mean I wouldn't need an as powerful GPU?
Don't give me wrong, intel is one of your 3 good choices. First things first is that I would get what's on special of the reliable 3 companies. That being said the m4 is the most pocket friendly one without many faults. But u would have to get the 128GB.
But look at the speed difference between 320 and m4 on its latest firmware.
Edit: I c most of the regulars have advised you to stay with the intel 320 and they are probably right even I don't know why. If any of them can take the time to e plain I'd appreciate it.
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Looks good to me DeSu, but you probably want to wait for one of the power supply experts to verify that one's a good choice.
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On November 18 2011 11:44 MisterFred wrote:
Looks good to me DeSu, but you probably want to wait for one of the power supply experts to verify that one's a good choice.
Ok cool, it totals close to $2000 if bought off pc case gear (not including shipping) so I'm pretty happy with that.
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I'm wondering if building from OriginPC is worth the cost vs. building from something like NCIX.
I don't know much about the parts of a PC, so the Origin Big O thing sounds pretty good for me, since they will guide me through the building process.
Do you think that's worth it, or is it much better to build from other stores?
edit: and if I do build from Origin, do you recommend a Big O or Genesis Pro?
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http://www.canadacomputers.com/GrandOpening/
I'm thinking of getting a new build, but slowly upgrading.
Is the Gigabyte Geforce GTX 560 GPU any good?
The Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600MHz deal? Looks pretty good to me.
And maybe is there any good deal on a SSD. Looking for probably around 80-120gb. Also maybe a case.
Thanks!
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On November 18 2011 11:53 KoTakUEurO wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I'm wondering if building from OriginPC is worth the cost vs. building from something like NCIX.
I don't know much about the parts of a PC, so the Origin Big O thing sounds pretty good for me, since they will guide me through the building process.
Do you think that's worth it, or is it much better to build from other stores?
edit: and if I do build from Origin, do you recommend a Big O or Genesis Pro?
If you're going to pour $7500 into a configuration. Please don't be a dumbass and at least get a core i7 3930k and probably quad CrossfireX / SLI. at the bare minimum. I rather pay NCIX to assemble for $50 than pay an American company a $1000 premium on whatever you want to waste your money on.
On November 18 2011 12:12 Kilos wrote:+ Show Spoiler +http://www.canadacomputers.com/GrandOpening/
I'm thinking of getting a new build, but slowly upgrading.
Is the Gigabyte Geforce GTX 560 GPU any good?
The Kingston HyperX 8GB 1600MHz deal? Looks pretty good to me.
And maybe is there any good deal on a SSD. Looking for probably around 80-120gb. Also maybe a case.
Thanks!
For $25, it's not bad. Keep in mind that it is 1600MHz at 1.65v which is less desirable than 1.5v.
A GTX 560 for $150 after mail in rebate isn't anything amazing.
Corsair Carbide 500R is a decent deal and Antec Three Hundred for $35 is also decent for budget builds.
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I am going to build myself a computer for a birthday present to myself :D but the problem is that I have little knowledge about the parts, as in what are the best/most cost efficient parts. basically here is what I need:
everything but a mouse haha. I need all the parts for the computer, a monitor, and a keyboard.(I can get an extra copy of windows 7) I currently am on an old laptop and want to be able to play sc2 at a higher quality, as well as not have random freezes while playing on low quality. Also overall just want a better computer service. Money i'd be willing to spend: ~800$ or so, but that includes cheap keyboard and cheap monitor, as I feel as if the actual computer hardware is more important. I do not need to spend that much money, but around there is what I'd be willing to spend (give or take 100 dollars or so). Now, If there are deals on NewEgg (the website I plan to use to purchase everything) on cyber monday and black friday, that'd be awesome, so maybe for each option possibly slightly more expensive, better alternatives in case there are deals. Thanks so much to everyone who responds in advance! please PM me the details as well as post here if you don't mind, because tomorrow until sunday afternoon I'll be at MLG!! Thanks everyone in advance; hope I'm not asking for too much work haha!
EDIT: oh and I plan on upgrading it fairly slowly (probably 3 years or so) and it would be nice to be able to stream, but not super duper important. Thanks again
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