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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
July 08 2011 03:08 GMT
#8041
On July 08 2011 07:42 Blisse wrote:
Don't spend your life going, what if I ate that pie? Go take the pie and eat it.

lol gonna end up being an expensive comp
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 08 2011 03:12 GMT
#8042
On July 08 2011 12:08 JiYan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 07:42 Blisse wrote:
Don't spend your life going, what if I ate that pie? Go take the pie and eat it.

lol gonna end up being an expensive comp


Yeah, especially if he sees a sale on RAID controllers and SSD's.
troynewell47
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
July 08 2011 03:24 GMT
#8043
what is the best ddr3 1600 8gb ram?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 08 2011 03:25 GMT
#8044
The one that costs the least...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 03:29:26
July 08 2011 03:28 GMT
#8045
On July 08 2011 12:24 troynewell47 wrote:
what is the best ddr3 1600 8gb ram?


If you're asking this question, you'll never notice the difference anyways. Buy the cheap kit. Noticing the difference requires large amounts of time spent repeatedly tweaking things and benchmarking things.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
July 08 2011 03:41 GMT
#8046
the one with the coolest heatsink

likely the gskill one which somehow manages to be cheaper than the others
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 04:07:37
July 08 2011 03:48 GMT
#8047
On July 08 2011 12:41 FragKrag wrote:
the one with the coolest heatsink

likely the gskill one which somehow manages to be cheaper than the others


I think the #1 annoying thing about heatsinks and RAM is that 99% of the people advocating them don't even know the best reason for keeping your RAM operating at lower temps...

Not that there's really any major use for them at any sane voltage. But RAM stability suffers due to increased volatility with higher temps. And again, people, don't go citing this as a reason to get heatsinks, no sane voltage needs them.

The damage temps tend to be pretty high, like 85-90C, so instability is really all most people will get from heat. And that requires some effort.
Ryko
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
July 08 2011 04:36 GMT
#8048
hey, I'm looking to build a new computer and I have absolutely no previous experience. I'm not planning on OCing or running anything in Crossfire/SLI and like to be able to play SC2 on high settings at 1080p; I don't plan on upgrading for 4-5 years either. My budget is $800, but I'm going to need a copy of Windows 7 and I might get that PC building service from NCIX for $50. Is it worth it to take $50 out of the hardware budget to have NCIX build the computer for me?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 08 2011 05:29 GMT
#8049
Are you in Canada?

Assembling yourself isn't difficult since there are plenty of helpful tutorials and easy instructions you can find, and parts generally only fit one way (the correct way). If you do it yourself, you will have a little more experience in the future and will be $50 richer. If you get them to assemble, you will save a couple hours time and probably have a slightly lower chance of getting a part DOA. Is that worth $50 to you?
Ryko
Profile Joined July 2011
7 Posts
July 08 2011 05:47 GMT
#8050
yeah, I live close to Toronto.

The thing that concerns me most about building a computer from scratch is the software part of it. I was told theres a lot of things to run/test in the BIOS while I'm building and it seems daunting to someone who's never done it before.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 08 2011 06:04 GMT
#8051
There's nothing to mess around in the BIOS if you're not overclocking or troubleshooting. The only thing you need to enter the BIOS for is to set the boot device to the DVD-Drive and than once Windows finishes installing, you set it back to the HDD. The CPU and GPU tests are done within Windows and all you have to do is monitor the temperatures for a few minutes before stopping the test. The memory test is done from a bootable CD and all you do is click a button and go to sleep.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
July 08 2011 06:45 GMT
#8052
On July 08 2011 02:28 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 19:39 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On July 07 2011 17:58 HuggyBear wrote:
On July 07 2011 16:55 Legatus Lanius wrote:
hey guys, any advice on a good set of headphones for blocking out external noise? i dont really give a toss about the quality of sound coming out of them, i just want them to block as much noise out as possible.

can you get headphones that just block noise, similar to what kespa has the sc players wear over their earbud headphones? if they are better ill buy those coz ive got a pair of el cheapo earbud headphones. i live in australia and will probably buy from PCCG but anywhere in aus (or overseas if they export) should be fine

P.S how much can i expect for something like this of decent quality? im not the kind of guy that gives a fuck about peripherals so i dont really want to be forking out 200 dollars for some plastic shit over my ears


Well if you listen to music on your PC, Good music headphones also double as good gaming headphones.

Headphonic is Australia's specialised headphone store. Chuck us a post in the forums and the staff and owner would be glad to give you a recommendation.

http://headphones.com.au/

If it were me, I'd give the SRH840's a look. http://headphones.com.au/psingle?productID=446

Even the SRH440's are a good pick http://headphones.com.au/psingle?productID=445


thanks bro, ill defo check it out


Sennheiser HD 280 should be good for you then, though it clamps hard to do so. Beyerdynamic DT 770 M isolates even more, but that's more expensive. The normal DT 770 versions isolate well, but apparently that one isolates even better. However, keep in mind that deep-insertion IEMs (canalphones) have better isolation than any fullsize headphone.

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The Etymotics above are IEMs. Most Etymotics have better isolation than most other IEMs.


are there any health/hearing problems related to using these canalphones? im usually pretty good with deep insertions but i dont want to damage my eardrums or anything like that
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Rabid.wolf
Profile Joined May 2010
United States17 Posts
July 08 2011 06:52 GMT
#8053
Hi my computer bit the dust a while ago and I've been using my older computer in the mean time. I would really appreciate it if I can get a parts list.

What is your budget?

My price range is $700-$800 USD

What is your resolution?

The monitor I am using is 1600x900 but I will probably be purchasing a new monitor sometime next year with a higher resolution.

What are you using it for?

The only game I play is starcraft 2 but I am thinking about diablo 3 in the future; would really like to play 4v4 on high or ultra. Besides this I mostly use my computer for youtube, skype, c++, and matlab. I won't be doing anything like photoshop or video editing.

What is your upgrade cycle?

My upgrade cycle is a bit on the long side I don't think I will be looking into upgrades for at least 2 years.

When do you plan on building it?

I'm hoping to build it within the next 2-4 weeks.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I will not be overclocking

Do you need an Operating System?

I have a copy of Win7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I will not be adding on a second GPU.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I have a Fry's nearish where I live (San Diego, USA) I have also purchased from Newegg before. If there are any other nearby computer places or websites please let me know.


Thank you for your assistance.
*Researches Flame Shield*
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
July 08 2011 07:01 GMT
#8054
@Rabid.wolf

Here's a configuration for $684 before mail in rebates that will be capable of handling Starcraft II 4v4 on high/ultra at 1080p:

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

MSI Radeon HD6850 Cyclone PE @ $170 ($155 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127576

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216

You can pocket the remainder of your budget, purchase an SSD such as the Crucial M4: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 for faster load times, upgrade the graphics card, or whatever else.
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 11:49:03
July 08 2011 11:42 GMT
#8055
edit: unnecessary
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 11:49:37
July 08 2011 11:48 GMT
#8056
edit: unnecessary
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 08 2011 13:15 GMT
#8057
For the record, Rabid Wolf, Fry's is almost always a tad pricey, you use them when you need the convenience of not waiting for delivery mostly. Just so you know.
Aresien
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United Kingdom305 Posts
July 08 2011 13:20 GMT
#8058
What is your budget?

Hopefully if all my summer jobs come together, something around the £2000-2500 region.

What is your resolution?

2 monitors at the moment, main is 1920x1080 and second is 1650x1050

What are you using it for?

Gaming, streaming, some photoshop and maybe some 3D rendering,

What is your upgrade cycle?

Definitely on the longer side, 2+ for sure.

When do you plan on building it?

Mid-end of August.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Probably not. I'm hoping that the system will be beefy enough to not require it (and i'm not enough of an enthusiast to do it for the sake of doing it ^^).

Do you need an Operating System?

Nope, already sorted.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

I was looking at the 590 but heard 2x580's would give a noticable improvement in performance, but i'll leave that up to you guys! If you choose a single card, I wouldn't add another.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I usually use www.overclockers.co.uk - dabs.com or ebuyer.com would also be fine I think. No good local computer shops here though, will all have to be online.

Thanks alot guys!
GeorgeyBeats
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom338 Posts
July 08 2011 13:49 GMT
#8059
Hi, You guys are all computer gods in your own rights and I feel that I havent really contributed enough to the community to warrant any advice, but I am tossing up between the 560ti and the 2gb 6950 for an extra £30. I am looking to play at 1920x1080 and would love to hear your thoughts if it is worth it. Would the extra 1gb be worth more in the long run perhaps?
Many thanks!
How many bears could bear grylls grill if bear grylls coud grill bears?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 08 2011 13:56 GMT
#8060
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=330

There's the two benched. Unless you do a lot of AA/AF on games at that resolution, you won't see much benefit from the added memory, so really it comes down to drivers with the games you play or plan to play.

Although there is the possibility (only possibility) of flashing a 2GB 6950 to a 6970, at which point it's definitely better.

560 Ti, on the other hand, OC's like a madman, if you wanted extra performance at a lower risk threshold than flashing the card.
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