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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Ashby
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia204 Posts
June 23 2011 05:13 GMT
#7301
On June 23 2011 13:03 ensign_lee wrote:
Thought I'd recant my earlier experience with the Corsair H50 vs the CoolerMaster Hyper 212. Earlier, I said there was no difference between the two.

There is a HUGE difference when you install it right! :D

I turned my fan around to push cold air into the radiator instead of pulling hot air away from the radiator, added a 2nd fan for push pull and now my temps at 100% load are < 50 celcius!!!

And this was when they were bouncing off the 70s to 75s before!

K...totally makes a difference. :D Thought I would share hehe.


Yea i OC'd my e8400 from 3.0ghz to 3.7ghz with a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ and my idle temps are about 33 or 34 degrees celcius and at load they are around 48degrees celcius

http://sc2sig.com/s/sea/30597-1.png?1307082433
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
June 23 2011 05:45 GMT
#7302
Could you please order the processors overall from greatest to lowest? (take price into consideration please, and no overclocking involved)

i5 2400, AMD Phenom II x4 975, AMD Phenom II x6 1100 T, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600

I am on a budget as it has been months, I for the sake just cannot think of which one to get. The Q6600 is my current processor, do not take its price into consideration. Thanks!
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
Astarwulf
Profile Joined May 2010
United States63 Posts
June 23 2011 05:45 GMT
#7303
Is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145520this a decent internal hard drive? thankyou in advance for the answer sorry if it's a stupid/obvious question :/
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 23 2011 06:03 GMT
#7304
On June 23 2011 14:45 iTzAnglory wrote:
Could you please order the processors overall from greatest to lowest? (take price into consideration please, and no overclocking involved)

i5 2400, AMD Phenom II x4 975, AMD Phenom II x6 1100 T, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600

I am on a budget as it has been months, I for the sake just cannot think of which one to get. The Q6600 is my current processor, do not take its price into consideration. Thanks!


In terms of gaming:

Core i5 2400 > Phenom II x4 975 > Phenom II X6 1100T > Q6600

On June 23 2011 14:45 Astarwulf wrote:
Is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145520this a decent internal hard drive? thankyou in advance for the answer sorry if it's a stupid/obvious question :/


Unless you are benchmarking or doing something harddrive intensive, you won't notice the difference between most harddrives.

The Samsung Spinpoint F3 is the same price and is regarded as one of the best performing drives on the market atm: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 06:15:11
June 23 2011 06:12 GMT
#7305
On June 23 2011 15:03 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 14:45 iTzAnglory wrote:
Could you please order the processors overall from greatest to lowest? (take price into consideration please, and no overclocking involved)

i5 2400, AMD Phenom II x4 975, AMD Phenom II x6 1100 T, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600

I am on a budget as it has been months, I for the sake just cannot think of which one to get. The Q6600 is my current processor, do not take its price into consideration. Thanks!


In terms of gaming:

Core i5 2400 > Phenom II x4 975 > Phenom II X6 1100T > Q6600

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 14:45 Astarwulf wrote:
Is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145520this a decent internal hard drive? thankyou in advance for the answer sorry if it's a stupid/obvious question :/


Unless you are benchmarking or doing something harddrive intensive, you won't notice the difference between most harddrives.

The Samsung Spinpoint F3 is the same price and is regarded as one of the best performing drives on the market atm: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185


I'd put it more like i5-2400 > PII X4 975 = PII X6 1100T > Q6600. There's a very small difference in games between the Phenom II X4 and X6. The latter may have a little worse clock speed nominally, but they have Turbo Core to compensate in many games, which makes the clocks pretty much the same. And the difference between the i5-2400 and the Phenom II is pretty large, as is the higher-clocked Phenom II compared to the Q6600 (just because of clock speed).

Anyway, for what it's worth, may as well link some benches. Keep in mind that some processors may be relatively good at some tasks and less good at others. If a CPU has more cores, obviously it will be better compared to an otherwise equivalent CPU with less cores, whenever a benchmark can make use of the extra cores. It wasn't mentioned what the processors were being used for.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=53


The Hitachi was 1.5TB for $65 though. Really, the differences between modern 7200 rpm drives is going to be small, and the Spinpoint F3 doesn't really stand out in most real-world use anyway, just in sequential transfers.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
June 23 2011 06:13 GMT
#7306
On June 23 2011 14:45 iTzAnglory wrote:
Could you please order the processors overall from greatest to lowest? (take price into consideration please, and no overclocking involved)

i5 2400, AMD Phenom II x4 975, AMD Phenom II x6 1100 T, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600

I am on a budget as it has been months, I for the sake just cannot think of which one to get. The Q6600 is my current processor, do not take its price into consideration. Thanks!


Is there a reason you absolutely need to upgrade? The Q6600 is fairly decent and I don't think it would be so hard as to OC it to 3ghz on air. If your on a budget I would stay as is unless you really need to stream. Im assuming this is for SC2?
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
Astarwulf
Profile Joined May 2010
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 06:16:07
June 23 2011 06:15 GMT
#7307
Thankyou very much for the swift replies!
dirkaderk
Profile Joined December 2010
United States26 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 06:23:53
June 23 2011 06:18 GMT
#7308
On June 23 2011 11:55 skyR wrote:


The major three (MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS) all provide a three year warranty on their higher end motherboards. Only ASUS offers the option of Advanced RMA. So if good is defined by Advanaced RMA, ASUS is your choice. I had problems with my ASUS b2 board but I still recommend them.

These are basically your options in the $150 - $200 range.

ASUS P8P67 Pro or Z68-V Pro
MSI P67 GD65 or GD55
Gigabyte P67 UD4 or UD3P

I guess there's EVGA too but their boards are a mystery to me since they were so late to the party and their boards are still non existant at most retailers and review websites.

You better be aimming for a 5GHz or higher overclock if you are spending almost $200 on a board. Many of the lower end boards are capable of SLI and also very capable overclockers.


yeah a 5GHz overclock is the target, I have a cooler thats definitely capable just hoping for a good chip. thanks so much for your help man, youre a lifesaver!
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
June 23 2011 13:12 GMT
#7309
On June 23 2011 14:45 iTzAnglory wrote:
Could you please order the processors overall from greatest to lowest? (take price into consideration please, and no overclocking involved)

i5 2400, AMD Phenom II x4 975, AMD Phenom II x6 1100 T, Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600

I am on a budget as it has been months, I for the sake just cannot think of which one to get. The Q6600 is my current processor, do not take its price into consideration. Thanks!


Uh, I'm assuming this is for SC / gaming.

i5,
Phenom II X4,
Phenom II X6,
Core 2 Quad

the X6 is under the X4 because SC only uses 2 cores, so going from 4 cores to 6 doesn't help anything. and the X6 is more expensive than the X4
benbrad2
Profile Joined June 2011
103 Posts
June 23 2011 13:26 GMT
#7310
I'm gonna go buy the PC Parts today.
Just double checking.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241&Tpk=ASRock H61M-VS

This motherboard won't have any speed restriction or anything like that when I use it with
i3-2100?

I don't use more than 1 hard drive and 1 graphics card.
Whatsup
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 23 2011 13:33 GMT
#7311
On June 23 2011 22:26 benbrad2 wrote:
I'm gonna go buy the PC Parts today.
Just double checking.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241&Tpk=ASRock H61M-VS

This motherboard won't have any speed restriction or anything like that when I use it with
i3-2100?

I don't use more than 1 hard drive and 1 graphics card.


Nah you're fine.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 16:36:05
June 23 2011 16:35 GMT
#7312
On June 23 2011 22:26 benbrad2 wrote:
I'm gonna go buy the PC Parts today.
Just double checking.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241&Tpk=ASRock H61M-VS

This motherboard won't have any speed restriction or anything like that when I use it with
i3-2100?

I don't use more than 1 hard drive and 1 graphics card.


WAIT WAIT WAIT Why are you buying from Newegg? You never mentioned you were from Canada and I was under the impression you were from the states since you didn't make any mention when Newegg prices were shown to you.

Newegg sucks. Why the hell is that motherboard $65 and $11 shipping? The core i3 2100 is also at $125. Both of which are overpriced.

You can get the Asrock H61M-VS for $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) at Canada Computers: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?item_id=037793 and the core i3 2100 from Canada Computers as well by pricematching or you can purchase directly from Direct Canada for $115: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD7933

Or you can get this combo for $160 ($150 after mail in rebate): http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=60593&promoid=1336

Buying from a Canadian retailer gets you faster shipping (since it's shipped from a Canadian warehouse instead of a US one), lower shipping fees, lower pricing, and supports the local economy.
benbrad2
Profile Joined June 2011
103 Posts
June 23 2011 17:00 GMT
#7313
Ok I went out and bought
I3 - 2100
and 4gb of 1333mhz ram. (Gskillz, RIPJAWS)
- After installing Windows XP, and looking at the system. It says 3.34Gb of Ram is this normal?
Whatsup
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 23 2011 17:08 GMT
#7314
Windows XP is usually 32bit so yes this is normal. 32bit only allows for 4gb of addressable memorry.

You have a 512mb graphics card I'm assuming and that's why you have 3.34gb of remaining memory since the operating system and other components also reserves some.
HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
June 24 2011 00:50 GMT
#7315
Okay, built it and then just realised when I saw the POST screen that they sent me the wrong i5 (2400 instead of 2500k) OTZ

Anyhow, do you guys know any good driver fetching programs? Or is it recommended to just get the drivers off the manufacturer's website?



"Sleeping with SeLeCT is Standard. Once you've slept with Day9 everything else is just ..." - CatZ
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 24 2011 00:52 GMT
#7316
On June 24 2011 09:50 HuggyBear wrote:
Okay, built it and then just realised when I saw the POST screen that they sent me the wrong i5 (2400 instead of 2500k) OTZ

Anyhow, do you guys know any good driver fetching programs? Or is it recommended to just get the drivers off the manufacturer's website?





I just collect them myself, so I know for sure what I'm getting from where.
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 02:04:51
June 24 2011 02:01 GMT
#7317
hey guys, im working on some overclocking on my cpu with its new fan. it's and e8500. i changed the fsb to 400mhz, the multiplier is 9.5, so it went from 3.16GHz to 3.8GHz. Also, how do i fully test if its stable. One more thing, how do I do the even ram ratio? its 1:1 which i think is good I've done a bit of research on overclocking but this stuff is a bit confusing.

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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 24 2011 02:05 GMT
#7318
You test stability by running IBT or prime95 for a few hours.

To achieve a 1:1 ratio with a 400MHz FSB, your memory has to be at 400MHz as well (800MHz effective).

Not sure about your CPU-Z issue.
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
June 24 2011 02:05 GMT
#7319
yeah i restarted cpu-z and updated my pictures
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
June 24 2011 02:15 GMT
#7320
so im running prime95 right now. worker #1(which i assume is core #1) is chugging along at 100% load 46 degrees. worker 2 however, after the first test immediatly hit a fatal error "rounding was .5, expected less than .4" "hardware failure detected. The first core is running fine though, why could this be?
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