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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 21 2011 01:41 GMT
#7141
Actually, using multiple drives for the OS's can raise one complication I can think of. If you decide to ditch an OS, and format to get the space back, it's a pain in the ass if that's where your bootloader is chilling at.
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 02:27:12
June 21 2011 02:26 GMT
#7142
Alright guys, ran Memtest for about two hours. Got through 3 tests with no errors. Again, I've only BSOD'd with TF2 so it might be a problem with the game or something. Just ran a Fumark test on my GPU and it ran for 10 minutes fine and topped out at 66C. Once I install some more games and get some more time in I'll find out I guess. Maybe I'll just delete the .cfg for TF2 and let it reset those settings at least.
drdeeds
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia6 Posts
June 21 2011 07:54 GMT
#7143
Planning to put together my first build, would like some general help with components. Thanks in advance =)

What is your budget?
~1000 AU$

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Gaming mostly.

What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years

When do you plan on building it?
Within the next month.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
June 21 2011 09:11 GMT
#7144
Hard Disk: Samsung Spinpoint F3
Processor: i5 2400
Memory: 2x2GB memory kit
PSU: Antec Earthwatts 430W
Motherboard: Asrock H61M-VS
DVD Drive: Samsung DVD drive
GPU: AMD HD6870
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini
Total: $870

Feel free to cut costs by getting a cheaper case.

BTW Overclocking isn't particularly hard these days. If you install an aftermarket CPU cooler, all you do is change the multiplier within the BIOS and forget about it. Since you've got a lot of money to spend on a computer, you might want to upgrade to a P67 motherboard and a Intel i5 2500k.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 10:11:34
June 21 2011 10:10 GMT
#7145
Hey all,

I've been meaning to build a PC for a while. I actually haven't had one since Windows 95 was the latest thing (oh dear); I've only ever had laptops for over a decade. I'm going to be a senior next year for college, and so I was planning on buying a small netbook I'd use for class (MS office, Internet, maybe light work in R), and having a gaming quality PC for my dorm.

I still have my Thinkpad T61 from three years ago (excellent laptop), though, so I might not get the netbook. It's heavy and bulky (and doesn't have a working battery, so I have to lug around its AC cord everywhere), but it works excellently; I might not even buy a netbook.

In any case, my budget is around $1,250 USD, but I don't own speakers, a monitor, or a keyboard either (so I also have to subtract those from the price), so I'm unsure on the resolution I'm going to be using. Sorry for that <_<

My main goal is to build a PC for mostly gaming, with some minor image/video editing. I'm not a professional by any means, so this is really kind of a side note and doesn't really factor into the decision. As long as I can play, say, upcoming D3 on good settings (and can easily upgrade my GPU), I'll be more than content.

I plan on keeping this PC for at least two years, probably closer to four-five. I plan on building it in late August/early September when I get back to school, though, so prices might change a lot/parts might become unavailable/etc.

I don't plan on overclocking because of an irrational fear that something will go wrong. I'd also rather not fiddle with cooling and heatsinks and stuff like that; I just want something that can run things out of the box (well, as out of the box as you can get for putting it together yourself XD). No plans to add a second GPU (but this isn't a consideration for reasons I'll get to below).

Finally, I'll likely be buying them mostly from online sources. There's a Fry's pretty close to my house, but my house is also 12 hours from where I go to school (so...yeah).

An additional consideration is the fact that I want the PC to fit a specific aesthetic: I really hate the flashy transparent LED stuff that a lot of my friends have, and I prefer to have more understated/brushed aluminum type things. I'm also looking to save space. With that being said, I'm pretty much committed to the Lian Li PC-Q08 case (so yeah, two GPUs won't fit). Like...99%. Obviously this'll have to factor into any recommendations. I've found a few recommendations on the internet (http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/dm4ug/lianli_pcq08_gaming_build/), but I was wondering if I could get some more up-to-date recommendations.

Also, are there any final considerations with using that case? It's very expensive and eats up a large part of my budget, but I might be willing to spend a bit more (especially because I need peripherals as well). This is kind of a tangent, but do you have any immediate monitor/keyboard/speaker recommendations? This is much less important, of course (and I know this thread is mainly for PCs).

Headed back home now from work, will check in a bit after I eat/commute (if you have any further questions for me).

Thanks much, and you guys've been doing a great job in this thread
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 21 2011 11:06 GMT
#7146
$110 - Lian Li Case
$190 - i5-2400
$87 - ASRock H67 mITX
$73 - 8GB GSkill Ripjaws
$40 - Antec EA430W
$248 - Gigabyte 6950 OC
$19 - DVD RW
$100 - Windows 7
$65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB

Total: $931.91

A bit left over to get a nice monitor. I wouldn't know too much about monitors, but you should have plenty for a decent 24' 1080p one as well as peripherals.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
June 21 2011 11:45 GMT
#7147
Thanks very much! What resolution should I be running at? I've been using 1440x900 because of my laptop screen for the past three years, but obviously desktops allow me to use more.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 21 2011 11:51 GMT
#7148
That would run SC2 at 1920x1080 on ultra.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 12:11:33
June 21 2011 11:59 GMT
#7149
If you hate LEDs, rip that fan out and install one that doesn't have LEDs. Any 120mm fan will do but if you want some especially good ones, Nexus Real Silents, Thermalright X-Silents, and Scythe Slipstreams are probably the best ones that aren't crazy expensive. Alternatively, just put duct tape over the LEDs.

Remember that the Lian Li Q08 is tight as hell, so non-modular power supplies are going to be a pain in the ass to build with; not impossible but you're going to need a lot of zip ties and some planning before installation. Apparently the go-to power supply is the Silverstone Strider 500W because its good, modular, and short. Yes it has a blue fan but it doesn't light up or anything as far as I know.

How small do you want your computer to be? There are a few other possible cases:
- Silverstone SG03 and SG04
- Silverstone TJ08
- Lian Li A04 and A05N

All of these cases look great but they have room for mATX, and in the case of the A05N full ATX, and still very compact packages.

As for the monitor, do you need colour accuracy/viewing angles? Or don't you care? If you don't care, just get any Samsung/BenQ/Asus monitor you can find because they're all mostly the same. If you do care, your only two real options are:
- finding a cheap HP LP series monitor or 20"/23" Apple Cinema Display (the one with aluminium casing) on Craigslist or eBay
- buying a Dell Ultrasharp straight from Dell. If you know anyone in military or you in an university that has a deal with them, you can probably get a discount coupon.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
June 21 2011 12:36 GMT
#7150
Ah, thank you very much
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 13:45:48
June 21 2011 13:34 GMT
#7151
What PSU would you guys recommend for an i5 2500k + 2x GTX 460?

And also, for the motherboard, running a P67 northbridge.

The main two components I am undecided on :O
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 13:42:31
June 21 2011 13:41 GMT
#7152
Motherboard must be Z68 or P67, since you already have a K processor you might as well use it. Motherboard must also have two PCIe 16x slots that run at: 16x/4x, 16x/8x, 8x/8x, or 16x/16x.

Also, you don't need an i7. If you haven't bought it, just get a i5 2500k and either pocket it or spend it on a proper motherboard or something.

PSU has to be least a very good 650W. This should be good enough for you.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
June 21 2011 13:42 GMT
#7153
Is $200 AUD for a OCZ Vertex 2 3.5in 120GB SSD a good buy?
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 13:44:26
June 21 2011 13:44 GMT
#7154
In Australia, yes it is a good buy. MSY is selling Kingston drives of the same size for over that. I don't like OCZ but you can't argue against that price/space/performance ratio.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 13:48:17
June 21 2011 13:45 GMT
#7155
On June 21 2011 22:41 Womwomwom wrote:
Motherboard must be Z68 or P67, since you already have a K processor you might as well use it. Motherboard must also have two PCIe 16x slots that run at: 16x/4x, 16x/8x, 8x/8x, or 16x/16x.

Also, you don't need an i7. If you haven't bought it, just get a i5 2500k and either pocket it or spend it on a proper motherboard or something.

PSU has to be least a very good 650W. This should be good enough for you.


Ah yes, I know that much about the motherboard (was planning on 16x/16x...maybe overkill for 460 SE?)

Meant more like if there was a particular well priced but good motherboard you would recommend.

Btw that i7 2500k was a typo. I meant i5 lol. $100 more for 100mhz more clockspeed and 2 mb cache? Hell no!

p.s. that xfx 650w psu is some seriously good shit! $59.99 after rebate O.O!
HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 13:47:02
June 21 2011 13:46 GMT
#7156
On June 21 2011 22:42 GTR wrote:
Is $200 AUD for a OCZ Vertex 2 3.5in 120GB SSD a good buy?


Pretty good imo considering most of the 120 Gbs are > $200. I would've gotten it if I had the spare change from my build
"Sleeping with SeLeCT is Standard. Once you've slept with Day9 everything else is just ..." - CatZ
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 13:51:52
June 21 2011 13:48 GMT
#7157
Right now, you get about ~5% less performance going 16x/4x or 8x/8x. Its actually not that bad in real life performance considering how much less you pay. 16x/16x motherboards I think are basically ones designed to run tri-SLI/Crossfire which needless to say really bloody expensive.

This is pretty good. It'll run at 8x/8x with SLI, which is pretty much the best you're going to get sub $200 range. In fact, I don't actually know a motherboard that can do 16x/16x (maybe Asus WS Revolution?).
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#7158
This is 16x/8x < $100. Something not so good with it?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 13:58:08
June 21 2011 13:56 GMT
#7159
There shouldn't be anything wrong with it. You're free to try it out, I only chose the ASRock P67 EXTREME4 because its known to work and its a very popular motherboard.

Keep in mind its an open box product. That's why its so cheap.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 14:01:59
June 21 2011 14:00 GMT
#7160
oh.

lol ~_~

You have any experience with how Newegg's open box products turn out in terms of reliability?
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