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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 16:54:53
June 09 2011 16:54 GMT
#6561
On June 10 2011 01:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 01:34 Womwomwom wrote:
Well done, you've got a perfect build.



I want to thank all the people in this thread who have helped me with this build and answered my noob questions.

Just got paid today, might order tonight once my paycheck gets processed! I want to know how Newegg affords to ship everything for next to nothing. My whole order is like $10 shipping.


Well, as a wild guess, their corporate account with shippers probably includes a special shipping rate due to the large volume they move.

And of course, they aren't selling you parts at cost.
Stoids
Profile Joined August 2010
United States636 Posts
June 09 2011 17:40 GMT
#6562
Day 1 of the waiting process .

Playing SC2 on low doesn't feel right with my build in the mail.
*Insert Inspirational Day[9] Daily #100 Quote* | Fantasy | qxc, Brat_OK
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 09 2011 17:42 GMT
#6563
On June 10 2011 02:40 Stoids wrote:
Day 1 of the waiting process .

Playing SC2 on low doesn't feel right with my build in the mail.


Meh, least you have something better than Fate. When I ordered my current rig, it was after my PSU went catastrophic upside my CPU and mobo, and my laptop could only handle Fate, MUDs and ASCIIs.
UltimateFire
Profile Joined May 2011
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 19:08:56
June 09 2011 19:02 GMT
#6564
Maybe some of you educated fellows in this thread can lend me a hand. I need to find a laptop below 750-ish, that will last a few years and can at least passably run SC2 and similar. I've had plenty of helpful suggestions, but I have so little time right now I am overwhelmed with even the preset options from places like newegg.

I'm going to continue researching, including within this very thread, but if any of you fine lads can lend me direct education I would greatly appreciate it.

EDIT: For instance, do I just get over the part where 1360x768 is a stupid resolution? (because you drop pixels on any common stream/dvd/etc.? Which I don't even know if that is really true)
Krasso
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 19:15:32
June 09 2011 19:13 GMT
#6565
Hi guys. I was wondering if u could give me some feedback on my perhaps upcomming upgrade:

Old specs:
Motherboard: Acer MCP73
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz
GFX: ATI Radeon HD4870 512MB DDR5
Ram: 4 Gb DDR2
Case: Antec Three Hundred
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-750TX
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster T220

New specs:
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.1)
CPU: Core i5 I5-2500K 6 MB
GFX: ATI Radeon HD4870 512MB DDR5 (a new one later on)
Ram: Kingston HyperX Genesis 2 x 4 GB
Case: Antec Three Hundred
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-750TX
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster T220 (+ Another 22" or 24" 16 : 9 monitor later on)

Goals:
Being able to stream StarCraft 2 in 480p
Good cost/performance ratio
Better multitasking capabilities
I could aim, but with this thing, i dont have to
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 09 2011 19:23 GMT
#6566
@Krasso

I'm pretty sure Kingston HyperX Genesis is one of their top-end lines that has higher frequencies and tighter timings? Correct me if I'm wrong but if you're not getting tighter timings and higher frequencies for the same price as you find cas9 1333MHz memory, you shouldn't do it as the performance differences are very minimal.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377/3
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3_7.html#sect0

Can't really tell you if the motherboard is a good selection since you never linked where you're buying so there may be better options. The P8P67 Pro is also unnecessary if you have no intention of doing SLI.

You would also want an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking the 2500k.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 09 2011 19:30 GMT
#6567
And if you just want to stream decent-quality 480p, I think a i5-2400 (and cheaper LGA 1155 motherboard that can't overclock the CPU) would be enough. That would lower the cost more while still doing what you want to do.
Wik
Profile Joined July 2010
United States125 Posts
June 09 2011 19:40 GMT
#6568
Due to my knowledge in finding good builds(or rather lack thereof), I would be very grateful to get some assistance in with it.

Questions/Answers in spoiler!

+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

800-900$

What is your resolution?


1680x1050
What are you using it for?

General gaming, mainly just want to keep up with more of the new releases, rather than be stuck either on low or with plenty of lag. Don't need it to be fit for anything special(No Photoshop,Streaming, etc.)

What is your upgrade cycle?

3+ Years, may become shorter in the future however.

When do you plan on building it?
I'm willing to be flexible, but I would prefer relatively soon.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Nope

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes, Windows.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?


I do not.

Where are you buying your parts from?
Going to order them online.(Newegg, Tigerdirect, etc.)

Thanks in advance
Homo for Lomo
Krasso
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 19:54:24
June 09 2011 19:43 GMT
#6569
On June 10 2011 04:23 skyR wrote:
@Krasso

I'm pretty sure Kingston HyperX Genesis is one of their top-end lines that has higher frequencies and tighter timings? Correct me if I'm wrong but if you're not getting tighter timings and higher frequencies for the same price as you find cas9 1333MHz memory, you shouldn't do it as the performance differences are very minimal.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377/3
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3_7.html#sect0

Can't really tell you if the motherboard is a good selection since you never linked where you're buying so there may be better options. The P8P67 Pro is also unnecessary if you have no intention of doing SLI.

You would also want an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking the 2500k.


Dno if you're wrong.

http://www.edbpriser.dk/Product/Details.aspx?pid=4993682

I might have.


On June 10 2011 04:30 Myrmidon wrote:
And if you just want to stream decent-quality 480p, I think a i5-2400 (and cheaper LGA 1155 motherboard that can't overclock the CPU) would be enough. That would lower the cost more while still doing what you want to do.


480p is just the minimum. Anything higher is just better.

(I am not very good at hardware. Had a friend help me find those parts)
I could aim, but with this thing, i dont have to
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 19:57:29
June 09 2011 19:56 GMT
#6570
On June 10 2011 01:54 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 01:40 Uhh Negative wrote:
On June 10 2011 01:34 Womwomwom wrote:
Well done, you've got a perfect build.



I want to thank all the people in this thread who have helped me with this build and answered my noob questions.

Just got paid today, might order tonight once my paycheck gets processed! I want to know how Newegg affords to ship everything for next to nothing. My whole order is like $10 shipping.


Well, as a wild guess, their corporate account with shippers probably includes a special shipping rate due to the large volume they move.

And of course, they aren't selling you parts at cost.

That makes sense, but of course they aren't buying those parts at cost either. They are probably just taking a small piece of the pie, but when you sell millions of pies it adds up haha.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 09 2011 19:57 GMT
#6571
@Wik

A slightly overkill configuration for your needs but it will be able to handle most games at reasonable settings at 1080p and capable of streaming. Total of $781 before mail in rebates:

Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

EVGA GTX 560 -KR @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130660

GSkill 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $65 with promo code EMCKDKA22 (ends June 15th)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

Antec Three Hundred Illusion @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 2 $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

DVD Burner @ $17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
valdor4
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States56 Posts
June 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#6572
On June 10 2011 02:40 Stoids wrote:
Day 1 of the waiting process .

Playing SC2 on low doesn't feel right with my build in the mail.


haha, I ordered mine yesterday, so I'm in the same boat as you...

Not sure what I will do while I wait =(

A UPS truck stopped by my house today, but it went across the street (dunno why I got excited, knew it wouldn't come today).
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
June 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#6573
@WiK

You can get Windows for 29.99 through microsoft if you have an .edu account. I've actually got two .edu accounts if anyone wants a copy if it can work like that.
RegenaRocket
Profile Joined April 2011
15 Posts
June 09 2011 20:34 GMT
#6574
Okay so I'm still trying to set up my 2nd monitor I went and got a HDMI to Mini HDMI cable so I hooked it up via HDMI into the Graphics card but i'm still getting nothing ):
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 09 2011 20:48 GMT
#6575
Ensure that the connection from cable to adapter and adapter to card are both snugly pushed in.

See if you get a signal without the DVI monitor plugged in. If you do get a signal without it plugged in, plug the DVI monitor into the DVI port that it previously did not occupy.
RegenaRocket
Profile Joined April 2011
15 Posts
June 09 2011 21:00 GMT
#6576
Thanks a bunch SkyR It fixed the problem, I can now Enjoy my new build! (:
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 23:57:42
June 09 2011 23:55 GMT
#6577
Hey does anyone know when some of these sales are ending? For example, my PSU is 13 dollars off right now and I am going to order everything tomorrow but if things are going off-sale tonight I'm going to order everything I can tonight while it's still on sale.

Shouldn't be a detriment to me besides things arriving separately since newegg has no base shipping cost.

Also my memory just went out of stock tonight so I need to pick a new pair. I just want some simple 2x2GB DDR3 sticks, nothing fancy. I'll probably be okay with just picking another pair around 40?
AngryNarwhal_111
Profile Joined March 2011
United States51 Posts
June 10 2011 00:17 GMT
#6578
On June 10 2011 08:55 Uhh Negative wrote:
Also my memory just went out of stock tonight so I need to pick a new pair. I just want some simple 2x2GB DDR3 sticks, nothing fancy. I'll probably be okay with just picking another pair around 40?


I also have this issue and would love some recommendations on new memory, right now I'm looking at a 2x2GB for $47.99 but that seems like a lot more than the other and for not much gain.
Parj
Profile Joined December 2010
France55 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 20:29:11
June 10 2011 00:17 GMT
#6579
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 09 2011 15:10 uNtrue_ wrote:
Hi, this is my first time building a PC as well. I took one of my friend's build as an example and had to find some new parts since some of the parts stopped selling.

I believe the build is about $1100. I'm looking to lower this price if possible. I'm looking to build a strong, fast computer but if I can save a bit of money for efficiency, I'm open to it. My plan is to stream my games and have the ability to play at pretty high graphics.

A few things I immediately need feedback on is
-Whether or not i7 is worth it for $40~ bucks more than the i5 I chose.
-I don't know much about SSDs and I picked one in the link, but I don't know if it's a great choice or not.

Here is a quick summary of my parts:
CPU: i7 950 3.06 GHz
or i5-2500k 3.3 GHz (3.7 GHz Turbo Boost)
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870, 1 Gb 256-bit GDDR5
MOBO: EVGA 131-GT-E767-TR
HD1: 1 TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0 Gb/s
HD2: OCZ Agility 2, 90 Gb SATA 2 Solid State Drive
RAM: 6 Gb DDR3 1600
PSU: RGS RG630-S12 630W
Case: Rosewill Armor ATX

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102909

MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188068

HD 1: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227604

PWR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182200

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104118

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147047

Any other feedback or suggestions or help you can give me would be fantastic! I'll try to read more into PC building before I actually purchase these items.

I'll update this post as I make changes.



Hi i've read some serious CPU test that clearly shows Core i5-2500K is better than a Core-I7 for a cheaper price.
Theses graph show results without any OC.
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/778-16/rapport-performance-prix.html
So take a i5 2500K and save 45$.
BTW Core i5-2500K is better than any other CPU (just not i7 2600K (315$)) , it's on Socket 1155, you can find a better quality MOBO for just 20$ more.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130581 220$ instead of 200.

For the videocard.It really depend on which resolution you play.
GTX 560 (255$) or HD 6950 (290$) for 1900x1080 or 1900x1200.
GTX 460 or HD 6870 (200-210$ both) for 1680x1050.

This graph shows you general testing performances on all theses cards and more.
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/834-17/recapitulatif-performances.html

I suggest you to take MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565 250$

You'll have MSI militay class II on MOBO and GPU.
+ Show Spoiler +


RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145313 105$

If you want to overclock i highly recommend you to take watercooling and if you want to SLI later then take a 850W PWR.
If you don't plane to OC take a good fan for your CPU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608022



skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 10 2011 00:22 GMT
#6580
On June 10 2011 08:55 Uhh Negative wrote:
Hey does anyone know when some of these sales are ending? For example, my PSU is 13 dollars off right now and I am going to order everything tomorrow but if things are going off-sale tonight I'm going to order everything I can tonight while it's still on sale.

Shouldn't be a detriment to me besides things arriving separately since newegg has no base shipping cost.

Also my memory just went out of stock tonight so I need to pick a new pair. I just want some simple 2x2GB DDR3 sticks, nothing fancy. I'll probably be okay with just picking another pair around 40?


On June 10 2011 09:17 AngryNarwhal_111 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 08:55 Uhh Negative wrote:
Also my memory just went out of stock tonight so I need to pick a new pair. I just want some simple 2x2GB DDR3 sticks, nothing fancy. I'll probably be okay with just picking another pair around 40?


I also have this issue and would love some recommendations on new memory, right now I'm looking at a 2x2GB for $47.99 but that seems like a lot more than the other and for not much gain.


Just get a 2x2gb kit for $40 or less: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146748

If you want to spend $50 on memory, you might as well spend an extra $10 for a 2x4GB kit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422
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