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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 06:31:28
June 09 2011 06:25 GMT
#6541
@uNtrue_

The core i5 2500k is the better choice of the two, you can get it in a combo with a Z68 motherboard for $330: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.654386

The performance difference can be seen here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20 and here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i5-2500-2400-2300_7.html#sect0

If you're going with the core i5 2500k, you'll want to switch the triple channel memory kit for a dual channel kit. Here's 2x4GB 1333MHz for $75: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

The performance difference between different frequency and timings is very minimal and not worth the extra cost as seen here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377/3 and here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3_7.html#sect0

The Samsung Spinpoint F3 is slightly faster and costs less than the Seagate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Not sure why that 6870 model is so expensive since it's not overclocked. There are less expensive models at stock speeds: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150506

You'll want an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking, the Xigmatek Gaia will be capable of keeping temperature and noise down for a 4.5GHz - 5GHz overclock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

A 600w power supply is unnecessary for a single graphics card configuration. This sort of configuration will have a hard time exceeding 250w during a gaming load. A quality 500w unit will be suitable such as the XFX Core Edition Pro 450 for $55: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
uNtrue_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 07:04:39
June 09 2011 06:54 GMT
#6542
Thank you so much, skyR, for your quick response! I'll look over these.

Edit: Do you have any suggestions on the SSD?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 09 2011 07:10 GMT
#6543
The Crucial M4 is faster but is of a smaller capacity: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

The Intel 320 is also of smaller quality and is slightly more expensive but boasts a five year warranty (as opposed to three from everyone else): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167047

Both SSDs are arguably more reliable than OCZ's. For the average user, it doesn't really matter with which SSD you go with as all of them will be significantly faster than any HDD.
RegenaRocket
Profile Joined April 2011
15 Posts
June 09 2011 07:17 GMT
#6544
@ SkyR My computer parts came in today I threw it together and it is running great! Big thank you to you! However i do have a quick question, I'm going for dual monitor as stated, One monitor is working and is hooked up VIA DVI cable directly off the Video card, while the 2nd one which isn't working is hooked up VIA HDMI but it only fits in the HDMI port on the Motherboard since i don't have the MiniHDMI connector for my video card, Could that be the reason why it isn't working? The screen says: HDMI entering power saving mode or w.e and goes to sleep.

Thanks again!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 07:19:25
June 09 2011 07:18 GMT
#6545
Plugging a video card into your motherboard turns the motherboard's display options off. You have to plug it into your video card.
RegenaRocket
Profile Joined April 2011
15 Posts
June 09 2011 07:19 GMT
#6546
QQ thanks for the response, Guess i'll have to wait, I don't think i have the right cables atm ):
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 09 2011 10:28 GMT
#6547
On June 09 2011 06:21 Stoids wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 06:19 skyR wrote:
@Stoids

Not sure if you are factoring in mail in rebates or not but the Crucial M4 is faster for a less expensive upfront price (and arguably more reliable): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

Definitely will do rebates. SSD was the place I was scratching my head the most, so thanks for suggestion.

With that change do you give the green light? :D


Well if prices are a concern, that Vertex 2 you had previously linked to just went on as a shell shocker, meaning it went from the $125 price you listed to $79 after rebate ($99 w/o rebate). Pretty friggin' good deal, I have a Vertex 2 and it hasn't failed me, although apparently there are rumors?
AngryNarwhal_111
Profile Joined March 2011
United States51 Posts
June 09 2011 12:49 GMT
#6548
Could I get a final review before I order? I'm planning on ordering either sunday or monday. Here's the build: http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/dgK

Added to that is 3 2-pack cooler master blue LED fans for $35 (I'm kind of a nut in this regards and I have the money to spend, but if someone wants to point out how much of an idiot I am I'll be happy to remove them). Also added is a DVD-burner for $20, and a Rosewill wireless card for $15. I'm planning on ordering Windows 7 from the site that's been linked a few times, using my brother's .edu address.

Any comments are welcomed and appreciated!
geethy
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
June 09 2011 12:50 GMT
#6549
hey, just wondering, can anyone tell me if I will have a problem with fitting the ASUS GeForce GTX 570 DirectCU II 1280MB into the SilverStone Raven RV02-E? And will I have a problem with going dual graphics cards later on?
'Money can't buy you happiness, but I'd rather cry in a Ferrari.'
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 13:04:25
June 09 2011 13:01 GMT
#6550
@Nharwhal
Almost $50 is a bit high for 4GB of RAM, $40 is more reasonable. Basically, you're paying 20% more for about 3-4% at most, performance-wise. If you want to do that, that's fine, just make an informed decision on it.

Cooler Master fans aren't really all that great of a choice, if you want LED fans, (I love them too), I'd suggest Antec Tricool LED's, they're definitely more expensive, ~$15 apiece for 120mm, but they're worth it, they're insanely quiet at the low setting, and still move good air.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article695-page3.html#tricool

The Low setting was quite impressive; it deserves mention for having one of the quietest "stock" speeds of any fan we've tested, although the airflow drops off proportionally. Nevertheless, 20 dBA@1m is quiet enough that some users may find it inaudible, especially in an office environment where the ambient noise tends to be fairly high.


Bear in mind, SPCR would call a gnat flying around during their review enough of a change in ambient noise to nullify the testing. The Tricool also has the advantage of the attached switches, making it easy to change the airflow as needed without a fan controller.

If you'd really just rather save the money for the CoolerMaster fans, I'd suggest getting some Molex-3pin adapters for them so you can attach them to the motherboard headers and use the BIOS fan controller. (If your model has this for more than the CPU fan.)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 09 2011 13:02 GMT
#6551
@AngryNarwhal_111

Money wasted on memory, difference between higher frequencies and timings are very minimal as seen here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377/3 and here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3_7.html#sect0

A 2x2GB 1333MHz kit for sub $40 would be fine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

Sub-par motherboard choice. You can get a Core i5 2500k & Gigabyte Z68 D3H combo for approximately $10 less than buying the processor and MSI board separately: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.654386 If you want to remain with the C43, the combo is $320: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660723

If you don't care for modular cabling, there are less expensive units that are of higher quality:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

@geethy

The Silverstone RV02 is a very roomy case and one of the best air cooled cases on the market so you won't have a problem fitting two GTX 570s in it.
AngryNarwhal_111
Profile Joined March 2011
United States51 Posts
June 09 2011 13:02 GMT
#6552
Thanks skyR! Adjusting now.
geethy
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
June 09 2011 13:09 GMT
#6553
thanks skyR
'Money can't buy you happiness, but I'd rather cry in a Ferrari.'
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 09 2011 13:20 GMT
#6554
8GB G skill Ripjaws $65 on newegg w/ promo EMCKDKA22
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL060911&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL060911-_-EMC-060911-Index-_-DesktopMemory-_-20231426-L0A

8GB Gskill Value Series 1333, $60 w/ code EMCKDKA29
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL060911&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL060911-_-EMC-060911-Index-_-DesktopMemory-_-20231422-L04D
AngryNarwhal_111
Profile Joined March 2011
United States51 Posts
June 09 2011 13:36 GMT
#6555
Here's the updated build. Any further comments or does it get the green light? I know the case is a favorite from many people but I'm a little put-off by the plastic material. Would a Antec 300 Illusion be any better or about the same?

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/dmz
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 09 2011 13:42 GMT
#6556
Configuration is good. Case is personal preference, both will fit the components and provide adequate airflow so select whichever one that appeals to you.
AngryNarwhal_111
Profile Joined March 2011
United States51 Posts
June 09 2011 13:42 GMT
#6557
Thanks again!
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
June 09 2011 16:26 GMT
#6558
Anyone have anything else to say on my build:

+ Show Spoiler +

CPU/Mobo combo: i5 2500k and Gigabyte GA-Z68A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.654386

GPU: MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II/OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565

RAM: 4GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB (might switch to the 1TB that's on sale for like 7$ more)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073

Case: Antec 300 Ilusion (On sale for $54!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

Aftermarket cooler: Xigmetak
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

DVD drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

And...... The hotly contested component...

Power Supply: Corsair CX500 V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

It's on sale for 54.99 and it provides 34A on one rail. Should be good enough.

Oh yeah and total is $850 and I'll be buying windows 7 for $29.99 so a total of 880.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
June 09 2011 16:34 GMT
#6559
Well done, you've got a perfect build.
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
June 09 2011 16:40 GMT
#6560
On June 10 2011 01:34 Womwomwom wrote:
Well done, you've got a perfect build.



I want to thank all the people in this thread who have helped me with this build and answered my noob questions.

Just got paid today, might order tonight once my paycheck gets processed! I want to know how Newegg affords to ship everything for next to nothing. My whole order is like $10 shipping.
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