EPTAre they worth going for? or should I just wait for the price drop to build a budget rig?
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HuggyBear
Australia377 Posts
Are they worth going for? or should I just wait for the price drop to build a budget rig? | ||
Womwomwom
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It you are going to buy right now, buy right now. If you aren't wait till Bulldozer is released around June and make your decision then. | ||
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.Mystic
Canada486 Posts
feels good building your own comp! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Pentium G620 (2.6 GHz, 3MB L3 cache, no hyperthreading, Sandy Bridge) for $75: http://www.buy.com/prod/pentium-g620-2-6-ghz-lga1155-3mb/q/loc/101/220964850.html Some other options are at 2.8 GHz and 2.9 GHz. They're probably still better than Athlon II X2/X3 for most things, and current LGA 1155 motherboards should be compatible with Ivy Bridge, so this looks like the way to go for a budget gaming build that can't even afford a Core i3-2100. On May 15 2011 04:28 HCmystic wrote: awsome its working now, just used a metal at the pins to turn it on, gave me a scare when it just booted up. Now whats the first thing to install? nothing is showing up on the screen feels good building your own comp! put Windows install disc in drive -> boot PC -> follow very easy install instructions There's not much to do until you have an operating system...Then put in the motherboard disc to install drivers, like maybe the Ethernet driver. Others can be gotten online once your Ethernet is working. Then download the latest graphics card drivers from ATI/Nvidia and whatever else you need. | ||
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FearTheReaperMan
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.Mystic
Canada486 Posts
or at least how do i change the 32bit vista to 64bit vista | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 15 2011 04:50 FearTheReaperMan wrote: I have been trying to do so research myself, but its quite hard for me to understand this tech. language. lol. But I seem to be understanding a little more, been it has not been without alot of work. The HD 6870 is at a pretty good discount and should be taken. HD 6870 > HD 6850 ~= GTX 460 > GTX 460 SE. Just don't get the GTX 460 SE (slow edition  ).On May 15 2011 05:09 HCmystic wrote: my vista about to finish. you recommend me just geting window 7 iso and loader to replace my vista? or at least how do i change the 32bit vista to 64bit vista You can run 32-bit Vista, but it may be worth just purchasing a 64-bit Windows 7 upgrade license disc (you would need to clean install again though, so decide sooner rather than later if you want to upgrade). IIRC you can't change from a 32-bit version to 64-bit without paying for a 64-bit version license. Check to make sure that's true though. This is not something I do often, so I forget. I think it may depend on which version: home, professional, ultimate, etc. you get as well, in terms of what upgrades are allowed. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
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FearTheReaperMan
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HD6870 + Show Spoiler + Myrmidon- Could you tell me if set up look fine ?Will everything will work together properly? F.E. Using the I32100 I can use the HD6870? Do I have a big enough power supply? ETC. ETC... xD lol I know nothing. I3 2100 http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=58339&promoid=1026 Motherboard http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=60574&promoid=1323 Thermaltake Case http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=46894&promoid=1323 Internal Hard drive http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=58402&promoid=1323 Antec Neo Eco 450C Power Supply http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=60491&promoid=1323 Microsoft Windows 7 http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=45271&promoid=1323 Samsung DVDRW http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=60344&promoid=1323 Memory http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=55546&promoid=1323 XFX Radeon HD 6870 900MHZ http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=56262&promoid=1026 And the assembly http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=7842&promoid=1323 Total- $737 | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
You could easily step down to a 300W power supply, by the way. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 15 2011 06:04 Zeke50100 wrote: Are you sure you want an i3-2100 with a Radeon 6870? That's a bit unbalanced in terms of spending on parts. Normally, the 6870 would go with an i5-2400 or i5-2500(K). You could easily step down to a 300W power supply, by the way. For a gaming system, I think an i3-2100 with a higher-end GPU is reasonable. Also, there aren't really that many decent power supplies under $45, regardless of wattage. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
edit: Also, unless you have these components already in your cart. I don't think most of these prices apply anymore since these promotional sales ended on the 11th. You'll going to have to look at the new sale: http://www.ncixus.com/hotdeals/ | ||
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FearTheReaperMan
154 Posts
@ skyR- K Ill do that. Thanks man. Yeah I already have the items in my cart, it states I have 5 days to check out. Thanks guys for all the help. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Killcycle
United States170 Posts
The other main concern I have is that I'm just not getting the right parts; I can't know enough about screens, gfx cards, cpus and the rest to be confident this will do me good and do it well. + Show Spoiler [Build] + AMD Phenom II x4 965 Black Edition ATI HD 5770 1GB Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1 Surround Sound Card Asus M4A89GTD pro / USB3 Corsaid TX 850w <---- I already own this. Asus 24x OEM DVDRW Hitachi 1TB Sata/300 DDR3 8GB 1600 Dual Hyper (4gb x 2) CM HAF 922 MS Sidewinder x4 Razer DeathAdder Asus VH232H 23" Hercules XPS 2.0 Total Cost: ~$1,100 (with tax) | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
What are you using the computer for? Regardless, with that budget, I wouldn't get a Phenom II X4. The Core i3-2100 or a Core i5-2xxx is just a better buy nowadays. AMD's technology is behind a couple of generations, but hopefully they'll catch up with the Llano/Bulldozer releases impending in about a month. Are you overclocking the CPU or no? The motherboard is a high-end model...for what? You don't get any different performance with different motherboards, just different features like number of ports and maybe multi-GPU support, USB3, SATA3, different CPU voltage regulation parts to support certain amounts of overclocking, etc. Motherboards also all have onboard audio, so a dedicated sound card is unnecessary unless you're looking for higher-quality sound. Anyway, an older Sound Blaster model may not really be any better than the motherboard onboard sound. It's hard to tell, and I'd need to check. If you're getting a dedicated sound card, there are probably better options in that price range even. (and you're not going to get much benefit using them with $50 speakers anyway--the speakers would be the limiting factor) HD 5770 is not that good. If you want to play even SC2 on ultra (not to mention more demanding games), you should look at something better. Also, that's a ridiculous price for a HD 5770, which should be more like $115 before rebate. For that matter, you don't need 8GB of RAM for running games, so that's another place where more money could be saved and reallocated to something else. You won't need great airflow for a system like that, so the HAF 922 is unnecessary but maybe nice. I suspect there may be better options for some of the peripherals, particularly the speakers, but all those things are pretty subjective. I don't have alternatives offhand. | ||
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Killcycle
United States170 Posts
On May 15 2011 07:58 Myrmidon wrote: @Killcycle: What are you using the computer for? Regardless, with that budget, I wouldn't get a Phenom II X4. The Core i3-2100 or a Core i5-2xxx is just a better buy nowadays. AMD's technology is behind a couple of generations, but hopefully they'll catch up with the Llano/Bulldozer releases impending in about a month. Are you overclocking the CPU or no? For the most part, it'll be Gaming, general crap, programming and (possibly) running a 3D rendering program for a class next semester. And I'm really interested in getting a quad-core processor; I feel like they'll be better in the long run in comparison to a dual-core or the like. I suppose I don't have a formidable argument for wanting one... If only those darned i7's weren't so expensive :d As for overclocking, best case scenario I'd like a CPU that can be OCd just so I can if necessary, but it's not a requirement. The motherboard is a high-end model...for what? You don't get any different performance with different motherboards, just different features like number of ports and maybe multi-GPU support, USB3, SATA3, different CPU voltage regulation parts to support certain amounts of overclocking, etc. I picked something that had favorable reviews (aka not falling apart) that worked with the processor. I don't know much more than that. Motherboards also all have onboard audio, so a dedicated sound card is unnecessary unless you're looking for higher-quality sound. Anyway, an older Sound Blaster model may not really be any better than the motherboard onboard sound. It's hard to tell, and I'd need to check. If you're getting a dedicated sound card, there are probably better options in that price range even. (and you're not going to get much benefit using them with $50 speakers anyway--the speakers would be the limiting factor) HD 5770 is not that good. If you want to play even SC2 on ultra (not to mention more demanding games), you should look at something better. Also, that's a ridiculous price for a HD 5770, which should be more like $115 before rebate. Is there a different gfx card you would recommend? For that matter, you don't need 8GB of RAM for running games, so that's another place where more money could be saved and reallocated to something else. You won't need great airflow for a system like that, so the HAF 922 is unnecessary but maybe nice. I suspect there may be better options for some of the peripherals, particularly the speakers, but all those things are pretty subjective. I don't have alternatives offhand. And it becomes clear how little I still know about the hardware. I don't know enough to be biased 'tween AMD / Intel / Nvidia, I had just thought the AMD would be better for upgrading in the long-term, as I heard Intel changed their chipsets often. I worry about the temperature because I live in good ol' Southern California, and it can get pretty hot here in the summer - 'specially when we're conserving money by not running the AC. Thanks for taking the time to respond, and point out my idiocies  | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Killcycle
United States170 Posts
On May 15 2011 08:33 skyR wrote: Are you limited to Frys or can you buy from Newegg and other online retailers? If an online store has things Fry's doesn't or beats their price, I don't mind ordering online. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Regardless of Intel changing sockets frequently an offering multiple platforms simulatenously, 1155 is going to be reused for next year's processors. Also, AMD is changing from AM3 to AM3+ next month. You don't want to get last-generation (arguably, 2 generations ago) tech right before they switch. | ||
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