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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 12 2011 23:29 GMT
#5361
@Golgotha

The 3pin plug looks like its for a fan so you would plug this into a 4 or 3pin fan header on the motherboard.

Nothing goes into the clear cmos pins. I explained earlier that it's a jumper used to clear the cmos (BIOS).

@SoKHo

Total comes to $759.

If you want an overclockable configuration, you could step down to a Radeon 6850 and get the core i5 2500k & p67 bundle instead, which would put your total at $774. Another thing you can do is step down to a 6850 and add in an SSD instead.

Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

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Intel Core i5 2500k & Gigabyte P67 UD3 Bundle @ $335
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.642509

MSI GTX 560 Twin Frozr II @ $250 ($230 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565
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Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 OC @ $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353

GSkill Ripjaws 1600MHz 2x2GB @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

XFX Core Edition Pro 450w @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

DVD Drive @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216

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Xigmatek Gaia @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 12 2011 23:54 GMT
#5362
but all my fans are working, I will double check again. btw i am typing to you guys on my new computer, I owe it all to skyR and Myrmidon!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 13 2011 00:23 GMT
#5363
If everything works than just forget about the plug and leave it hanging inside the case. But it definitely looks like a fan plug to me.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 01:31:11
May 13 2011 01:30 GMT
#5364
On May 13 2011 09:23 skyR wrote:
If everything works than just forget about the plug and leave it hanging inside the case. But it definitely looks like a fan plug to me.


you were right! The fan pin slot was hiding under my fat GPU...hehe. And I am all done now! Thank you to TL and especially skyR and Myrmidon for helping me out. My first computer I have ever built!

[image loading]
yeah yeah cable management sucks
[image loading]

Specs:

EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Intel Core i5-2400
ASRock H61M
G-Skill 4GB
WD 500GB HDD
Antec 500W PSU
Rosewill Case

Grand Total: $671.95
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 13 2011 01:40 GMT
#5365
Out of principle, I would attempt to move the cables hanging loose farther to the right and use zip ties to tie them to maybe one of the holes in an unused drive bay. You don't want the cables running into the CPU fan. Judging by the pictures, you might be able to do that in like 2 minutes. But if it works, it works I guess.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 13 2011 02:47 GMT
#5366
On May 13 2011 10:40 Myrmidon wrote:
Out of principle, I would attempt to move the cables hanging loose farther to the right and use zip ties to tie them to maybe one of the holes in an unused drive bay. You don't want the cables running into the CPU fan. Judging by the pictures, you might be able to do that in like 2 minutes. But if it works, it works I guess.


will do right now! thanks
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
May 13 2011 03:18 GMT
#5367
hey skyR,

my friend wants a core i7. Can you give a modified build with a intel core i7?

Thanks!!
"If you don't understand my silence, you won't understand my words"|| Big Nal_rA fan boy!! Nal_rA, Bisu, Huk, MC, Hero fighting! SKT1---->
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 13 2011 03:27 GMT
#5368
Why does your friend want a core i7 for gaming? The core i7 is an extra $100 over the core i5 2500k and provides nothing for gaming. The two processors will get exactly the same FPS in most if not every game.

If he really wants one than just switch out the core i5 2400 for a core i7 2600 and switch out the GTX 560 for a Radeon 6850. That should put your total at $789.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 13 2011 03:35 GMT
#5369
On May 13 2011 12:27 skyR wrote:
Why does your friend want a core i7 for gaming? The core i7 is an extra $100 over the core i5 2500k and provides nothing for gaming. The two processors will get exactly the same FPS in most if not every game.

If he really wants one than just switch out the core i5 2400 for a core i7 2600 and switch out the GTX 560 for a Radeon 6850. That should put your total at $789.


This. tomshardware isn't the best source for many things, but their monthly "best gaming CPU" writeups are not bad. They also note that i7s are bad values for gaming, which you can see from individual benchmarks if you look around.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-intel-core-i7-amd-phenom-ii,2926-4.html

For the record, most 32" 1080p LCD TVs tend to lag by about 25-100ms on average. i.e. it may take 1/10th of a second between getting a signal and showing it on the screen. It depends heavily on the model.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 13 2011 03:55 GMT
#5370
On May 13 2011 12:35 Myrmidon wrote:
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On May 13 2011 12:27 skyR wrote:
Why does your friend want a core i7 for gaming? The core i7 is an extra $100 over the core i5 2500k and provides nothing for gaming. The two processors will get exactly the same FPS in most if not every game.

If he really wants one than just switch out the core i5 2400 for a core i7 2600 and switch out the GTX 560 for a Radeon 6850. That should put your total at $789.


This. tomshardware isn't the best source for many things, but their monthly "best gaming CPU" writeups are not bad. They also note that i7s are bad values for gaming, which you can see from individual benchmarks if you look around.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-intel-core-i7-amd-phenom-ii,2926-4.html

For the record, most 32" 1080p LCD TVs tend to lag by about 25-100ms on average. i.e. it may take 1/10th of a second between getting a signal and showing it on the screen. It depends heavily on the model.


Vizio's works quite well. At least, it doesn't have sufficient lag to notice.

http://www.vizio.com/lcd-hdtvs/e320vl.html
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 13 2011 04:11 GMT
#5371
Indeed Vizio is often better. Some Sony models, some Panasonic models, etc. are also good and under that range. My LG 32LD450 is around 30ms, according to some tests, but I don't use it for the computer. I'm not sure if I notice it or if it's placebo. That's the borderline area.
BankaiPwn
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada40 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 04:34:55
May 13 2011 04:20 GMT
#5372
Hey guys, was looking to build my first desktop in the very near future and wanted to get some feedback (and suggestions) on what components to use. It will be mainly for gaming (although I might do some streaming...etc at a future date).

Budget is quite flexible, so just throw suggestions if you see them (This does not include a graphics card as I bought one a year and a half ago... Radeon HD 5770 that can play the games I want to play without it being too much of a problem, if I need to upgrade when new games come out I don't think that'll be too big of a problem in terms of switching it out... correct me if I'm wrong)

The problem is, ordering online might not be an option, so I'm looking at things I can find at a nearby memoryexpress and use their 25% price match offer. I will be overclocking this, but don't have too much knowledge of that (although will definitely be reading up on it a lot). Looking to do this as early as this or next weekend.

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*Numbers based off of memory-express price matching based on shopbot

CPU: i5-2500k: ~$205.00*
RAM: Mushkin PC3-10666 8GB: ~$77.50
HDD: OCZ Vertex 60GB (SSD): $100.00 + ? (looking for a 1TB)
Case: Antec Three Hundred: ~$60.00
OS: (Taken care of, Windows 7 Professional 64bit)

Need extensive help on deciding:
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3-B3: ~$120.00 (NO idea for this one)
PSU : Not sure... Price Range ~$75.00?
External Fan: Not sure what kind of fan I'd use, but figure I could use one or two as I'm going to OC.


Thanks in advanced.

Edit: In terms of the 8GB ram... the 4 to 8 isn't as big of a deal for me, as I might need to use some programs that can actually utilize it (CAD programs)
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 04:26:40
May 13 2011 04:25 GMT
#5373
Those all make sense, except a i5-2500k costs a lot more than that.

An overclocked i5-2500k and a HD 5770 with a couple hard drives needs like 250W. So I'd just get a Corsair CX430, especially if you can get it for this $30:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX30134(ME).aspx

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus for $30 is a good CPU cooler for the money:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX25192(ME).aspx

edit: if you were asking about additional case fans, those you don't need unless you really want to drop your temps like 1-3 Celsius more.
BankaiPwn
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada40 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 04:34:37
May 13 2011 04:33 GMT
#5374
^ Thank you Myrmidon,

I'm an idiot... hit 1 by accident xD

What type of Watt increase would I expect if in a year's time I took the HD5770 to a higher end graphics card? And what type of HDD would you recommend (~1TB) that is available from mem-express. I saw a couple that I'd have to order, but would prefer if possible not to go through that trouble.

Thanks again.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 13 2011 04:40 GMT
#5375
You're still looking at under 400w consumption for any single graphics card configuration (excluding dual gpu on single pcb cards). If you want a power supply that will last you this build, your next build, and possibly the build after it, you could pricematch down the Antec High Current Gamer 520w to $55: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX30456(ME).aspx using http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=56787&promoid=1323

You can get a Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB ( http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX27488(ME).aspx ) for $58 by pricematching with http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=48813&promoid=1323
BankaiPwn
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada40 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 05:02:07
May 13 2011 04:45 GMT
#5376
^ Awesome, thanks for the help (@ both of you)

I think I'm leaning towards the cooler master, the Antec + the WD1.5TB,

Thanks a lot guys (and props for all the support you give this thread ^_^).

-Bankai

Edit: Do you know if mem-express does price match on things that are on sale?
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 13 2011 05:30 GMT
#5377
On May 13 2011 10:40 Myrmidon wrote:
Out of principle, I would attempt to move the cables hanging loose farther to the right and use zip ties to tie them to maybe one of the holes in an unused drive bay. You don't want the cables running into the CPU fan. Judging by the pictures, you might be able to do that in like 2 minutes. But if it works, it works I guess.


[image loading]

I couldn't stop zip tying.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 13 2011 05:40 GMT
#5378
MemoryExpress's terms do not specify sales so yes as long as item is in stock but the power supply is a limited quantity sale so that might be a problem... It does come with free shipping so I don't see why they would reject a pricematch since they'll just be losing business...

Cannot be used with any other promotion and does not apply to advertising errors, misprints, rebates, coupons, special educational prices, club or group buying prices, restricted offers, mail order offers, premiums, free or bonus offers, limited or minimum quantity offers, close-outs, liquidations, clearances, auction or clearance sites such as eBay, and special financing offers.
BankaiPwn
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada40 Posts
May 13 2011 06:28 GMT
#5379
Ahok, I'm not very good in the market situations, would it be under my best interest to say (if they say they won't price match) that I'll just order online then?

Thanks again
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 13 2011 06:44 GMT
#5380
It's simple. If the rep refuses the pricematch, you ask to talk to the manager. If manager refuses, you walk out of the store and purchase elsewhere.
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