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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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dandan23
Malaysia101 Posts
everything is set and done.. im really happy 4.2 overclock with 3.25 voltage.. !! good enough for me! thx for helping me out from the start till now (me knowing nothing about computers ended building one , cable management , overclocking it ) thanks guys again  | ||
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FearTheReaperMan
154 Posts
On May 13 2011 03:30 Myrmidon wrote: Yes. For gaming a dual core is fine, especially a modern one as fast as that. Quad cores help for a few games but mostly really for things like streaming, rendering, video editing, other CAD, other workstation tasks, etc. Thank you. Help'd me out a lot. | ||
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andytb
United Kingdom180 Posts
Five years ago I'd have known all about what specs to get, but now I'm totally lost. Perhaps you guys can point me the right way Checklist in the spoiler: + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? Up to about £800, hopefully What is your resolution? 1920x1080, and planning at some point to get a second screen the same to assist photo editing. Obviously not gaming on both at once and there's no need to budget a monitor in to the build. What are you using it for? SC2, Photoshop Lightroom and an ambition to get into video production - but that is less of a priority. What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4 years When do you plan on building it? Within the month Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? Windows 7 home Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Hard drive requirements An SSD for booting and scratch, and 1TB to begin with. Would prefer 5400rpm (noise) and can easily be added to in the future. Where are you buying your parts from? Any UK based e-tailer. Ebuyer and komplett immediately comes to mind. Anything else I'd like the computer to be as quiet as possible so any extra money can be spent on quiet fans and better heatsinks. I'd like a decent quality stereo sound card that can do multiple inputs and outputs, and a wireless card. No need for blu-ray (only dvd) but a card reader bay would be nice. Thanks for any direction you can provide :-) Andy. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/251597 Cooler Master Hyper TX3 - £14.67 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/195684 Gigabyte H61M-USB3 - £69.52 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/263607 G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - £66.92 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/240498 MSI HD 6850 Cyclone - £141.72 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/254378 Samsung 470 64GB - £94.99 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/265352 Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB - £42.99 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/182435 Be Quiet 530W Pure Power - £47.99 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190751 Fractal Design Define R3 - £84.99 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/236437 Samsung CD/DVD RW - £12.99 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145450 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM - £72.16 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/259863 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/246650 Tenda 802.11n PCI wireless adapter - £12.99 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155641 Not sure what your requirements are here, but you're not going to be able to fit two PCI cards on that motherboard with a two-slot graphics card. You can get a USB wireless adapter and/or sound card. edit: actually, considering the price difference, you may just want a H67 or P67 ATX motherboard with more slots and ports. Most of the cheaper H61 ones only have 4 SATA ports, and you'd already be using 3 (on second thought, you may need to buy or scavenge a SATA cable if the motherboard only comes with 2). The AsRock P67 Pro3 is only £82.70 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/267321 edit2: with a P67 motherboard, you could overclock a i5-2300 to i5-2400 speeds, lol. It would still be quiet on a Hyper TX3. I forgot Windows 7 earlier. This is a little over budget then. To bring costs down, you could get a cheaper motherboard (no USB3), i5-2300 instead of i5-2500, cheaper SSD (probably not worth it), cheaper PSU (may be noisier), cheaper case (will be noisier), etc. | ||
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SFXStrobe
United Kingdom36 Posts
May aswell include that checklist whats-it What is your budget? Around £600 ish What is your resolution? 1600x900 What are you using it for? SC2, potential streaming if able to. Possibly other games, but not likely What is your upgrade cycle? 2-3years When do you plan on building it? Within the next 2 months Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? No, have a win7 already Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Hard drive requirements Not sure wether to get a HD. Have a 500gb external and 500gb internal pre loaded with stuff i use, OS etc Where are you buying your parts from? Ebuyer or similar Anything else Im not looking for an i7 or anything like that. Ideally not even an i5, id like to try AMD and have heard good things about what i've listed below. Just want a good rig that will run SC2 well, and like i said, maybe streaming. So, onto the shiny stuff:- Motherboard-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H AMD 880G Socket AM3 Gigabit LAN VGA DVI HDMI 8 channel Audio MATX Motherboard Link-http://www.ebuyer.com/product/238973 CPU-AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Socket AM3 3.2 GHz 6MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor Link-http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190673 GPU-Sapphire HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card Link-http://www.ebuyer.com/product/262260 RAM-G-Skill 4GB DDR3 1333MHz Ripjaws Memory Module CL9 (9-9-9-24) 1.5V Link-http://www.ebuyer.com/product/226283 Case-Coolermaster Elite 430 All Black Case With Elite 500W PSU Link-http://www.ebuyer.com/product/235611 Now, im not sure if i need extra cooling as the reviews say the standard cooler with the CPU is rather splendid at keeping it cool. Loudness isn't an isssue. So yea, i've probably missed out alot of stuff, so please berate me and ask me anything, and ill try and answer asap. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The stock heatsink included with the processor is adequate for cooling the processor at stock frequencies. You'll only need an aftermarket heatsink if you plan on overclocking, care about noise, or live in a hot climate. For the graphics card, get a 6770 instead since it's less expensive for some reason: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/266531 The 6770 is just a rebranded 5770. Since you're not buying for another two months, you may want to wait for pricing information and performance figures for AMD's next generation processors that are set to be released in June. You can re-use your old harddrive but make sure you do a fresh install of Windows. You'll need to re-use your existing DVD Drive or buy a new one. You should probably also re-use your case and get a more reliable power supply with the money saved. Not sure if I would trust the power supply that comes with the case since title says 500w power supply while the power supply model is a 400w unit. @Golgotha Did you install standoffs? + Show Spoiler + http://www.cybergooch.com/tutorials/images/buildsystem/IMG_6805.jpg Did you plug in the 24pin connector and 4/8pin connector to the motherboard? Are you sure that the case wires are plugged in correctly? Is the switch on the back of your power supply set to the 1 position? | ||
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SFXStrobe
United Kingdom36 Posts
Going to the 6770 instead of the 5770 isnt a bad idea. Does the fact thats its 512 instead of 1gb make a big difference? The two month thing was put on by the GF, but this rig is coming in at well under £400 atm, less if i use the case i have atm. Regarding that i have a Packard Bell case thing, not sure of model atm. Would the stuff above fit easily? As for a PSU, i was thinking of this:- 550W ATX Silent Neon PSU - 12cm Fan 4x Molex 1x SATA As i dont need anything super expensive, and it looks snazzy :D Link-http://www.ebuyer.com/product/102994 | ||
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FearTheReaperMan
154 Posts
Just curious how would the Sapphire Radeon HD 5830 Xtreme be? Thanks guys http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=60715&vpn=11169-06-20R&manufacture=SAPPHIRE&promoid=1026 | ||
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andytb
United Kingdom180 Posts
I have a decent quality amp hooked up the laptop just now but the on board sound produces a lot of static and interference. It's also a little weird to have <i>everything</i> going through it. I'd like to have the ability to split off music to the hifi but skype, game sounds etc to a pair of desktop speakers. So 2 stereo outputs, 2 stereo inputs. If over budget this can wait until I can research it better, using on board in the mean time, and save up more cash. Wireless I can of course use USB for. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Ops didn't realize I linked the 512mb model. The 1GB models are still less expensive though: Sapphire: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/266530 XFX: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/266787 Packard Bell =\ I'd go with a new case since prebuild cases are usually terrible in terms of layout and space. I've never heard of Neon Power, maybe Myrmidon or someone else has? =\ The power supply is the heart of your system so you generally want a reliable unit providing power to the system. The XFX Core Edition 450w for £39.21 is a good choice: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264381 Better build quality and more power than both the Coolermaster and Neon. Five year warranty as well. @FearTheReaperMan Performance difference between 5850 and 5830: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/171?vs=164 | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On May 13 2011 05:49 skyR wrote: @Golgotha Did you install standoffs? + Show Spoiler + http://www.cybergooch.com/tutorials/images/buildsystem/IMG_6805.jpg Did you plug in the 24pin connector and 4/8pin connector to the motherboard? Are you sure that the case wires are plugged in correctly? Is the switch on the back of your power supply set to the 1 position? i connected the 24 pin and the 8 pin (black and yellow wires) to the mobo. standoffs are installed. by the switch on the back do you mean the - and O? I tried both ways. omg it worked!!!!! i thought the O position was the on position.....sorry skyR but thanks! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 13 2011 06:11 andytb wrote: Myrmidon, thanks very much. That looks like a good starting point, my budget is fairly fluid and I want a system that lasts as long as the one I've had before it. I could transfer my W7 licence from my current laptop to save a little cash. I have a decent quality amp hooked up the laptop just now but the on board sound produces a lot of static and interference. It's also a little weird to have <i>everything</i> going through it. I'd like to have the ability to split off music to the hifi but skype, game sounds etc to a pair of desktop speakers. So 2 stereo outputs, 2 stereo inputs. If over budget this can wait until I can research it better, using on board in the mean time, and save up more cash. Wireless I can of course use USB for. Laptop onboard audio is usually worse than desktop onboard audio because of the space and proximity of everything and the chip used. Anyway, you can use the onboard audio (or a 2nd non-onboard interface) for one stereo output (desktop speakers) and one stereo input, with another interface supplying another stereo output and stereo input. That's the easiest way to configure in the OS. You set some programs to output through one device and the others to output through the other device. An interface that can process multiple unrelated stereo output streams simultaneously is rarer and probably a deal more expensive. A decent external interface would be a Behringer UCA202. There's not many competent reviews of low-cost audio gear, but here is a decent review (but it focuses on the headphone out, while you're interested in the line out): http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/behringer-uca202-review.html http://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-UCA202-BEHRINGER/dp/B000KW2YEI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305235712&sr=8-1 | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
I have one female connection in my dvd drive connecting it to the PSU. I have one sata cable connected to the mobo, and one slim L shaped connection connecting it to the PSU. GPU is connected to PSU via 8 Pin PCI Express. All other front panel connections are good. Fans are working. Lastly, there are 3 tiny pins sticking out with the label clrcmos on the mobo. I think it is for a connection that comes from the front panel but not sure. It fits perfectly but the wire doesn't have a label at all. Am I missing something? | ||
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andytb
United Kingdom180 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
What was the configuration you ended up purchasing...? Only the flagship cards such as the GTX 580 require a 8pin connector. I hope you didn't mistake the 4+4 (8pin) CPU connector for a PCI-E connector. PCI-E connectors these days are most commonly 6+2pin. The 3 tiny pins labeled as CLRCMOS is known as a jumper, it's for clearing the CMOS (reseting the BIOS). Your DVD-Drive should have a sata data cable going to the motherboard as well. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L4mMD.jpg) this (3 pins sticking out in the middle, CLRCMOS)? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JE1tW.jpg) My other connections. I think I need a new DVD drive as it uses an IDE ribbon T_T ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/DJc9r.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sfvkP.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Ua0LH.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/bBR3L.jpg) Beautiful  ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9B7o1.jpg) | ||
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SoKHo
Korea (South)1081 Posts
What is your budget? ~$800 What is your resolution? I plan on using a 32' LCD 1080p tv What are you using it for? Gaming What is your upgrade cycle? I want to spend more money now so that I don't have to upgrade as often When do you plan on building it? Summer Do you plan on overclocking? Not sure Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? nah Where are you buying your parts from? newegg | ||
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