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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Mischi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany133 Posts
February 22 2011 10:07 GMT
#3221
Oh, I didn't know you could raise the multiplier on the non-k CPUs a bit
Thanks for the info.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
February 22 2011 10:39 GMT
#3222
On February 18 2011 00:06 ensign_lee wrote:
Also, silentness - the i7-2600k is not easier to overclock than the i5-2500k. They are pretty much *THE EXACT SAME CHIP*, but Intel decided to disable hyper threading on the i5's. 2MB more in the L3 cache too, but meh.

If $100 really isn't that much to you, then yeah, go with the i7-2600k. But honestly, that $100 is better spent elsewhere...like...a solid state drive! :D

Otherwise, I suppose if you run SETI@home or something like that, your computer will use the hyper threading and be able to work on 8 projects at once instead of just 4. That'd be kinda cool?

Also, as far as what SE stands for, I think it stands for "slow edition." No joke. Don't quote me on that though. :D


uhh you sure that's my post? I never mentioned i7 2600k or GTX 460 SE?

I have AMD 955 Black Edition and yep I do have a Intel x-25 120 GB SSD. W00T!
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
TheHermans
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands4 Posts
February 22 2011 12:50 GMT
#3223
I did some additional research. I came up with the following system including Windows 7, installation and the monitor:

Intel Core I5 650
Asus P7H55-M
500 GB S-ata2 7200 RPM
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333MHC
GTX 460 768MB(?) GDDR5 DirectX11
Monitor: LG E2240S 21.5” LED Full-HD
430W Quiet PSU

The price is EUR 812,- I value the installation and the Windows 7, because I am not very technical
It is about that time
q.epsilon.p
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom7 Posts
February 22 2011 13:35 GMT
#3224
Can't wait till BF:3 come's out and i can play that on this on full rez that like 1/4 of the reason why i got this PC
While minutes drag, years past seem to have passed in minutes them self's.
Mischi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany133 Posts
February 22 2011 13:42 GMT
#3225
I wouldn't get an i5-650. It is basically outdated and only dual core.
For the same money you can get an i5-2400, which is way better.
You should probably get the 1gig GTX460 for 1920x1080.
Installing windows isn't a problem you just have to click accept/next/whatever a couple of times and everything basically happens on its own.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
February 22 2011 13:50 GMT
#3226
he probably doesnt mean windows installation but but rather the "putting the parts together" thing P:

The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Mischi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany133 Posts
February 22 2011 14:47 GMT
#3227
So, I actually put something together for you:
http://i.imgur.com/AFKdF.jpg

Basically every part is better than the parts you suggested. It's a bit more expensive than your setup because I included a 24" monitor instead of your 21,5". If you go for a smaller monitor this setup should be even cheaper than yours.
TheHermans
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands4 Posts
February 22 2011 15:18 GMT
#3228
Before you recommended if I did want to spend some extra money, I should spend it on a graphics card GTX 460. I looked at their website (hardwareversand.de), but they have different brands with a GTX 460. Which brands do you recommend and what is the difference?

Thank you again.
It is about that time
Mischi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany133 Posts
February 22 2011 15:26 GMT
#3229
You should look for a GTX460 with 1GB of VRAM. Yours only had 768MB.
The differences between the brands are:
1. Some manufacturers install their own coolers which may be less loud/more effective than the standard ones.
2. Some cards are overclocked by the manufacturer

Basically you should pick the cheapest GTX460 with 1GB.
I chose the second cheapest because the other one has a really loud and annoying cooler.

I don't know how much more money you want to spend though. You could even go for something like a GTX 560 (http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43719&agid=707)
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
February 22 2011 15:48 GMT
#3230
Warranties matter too, XFX and EVGA often give lifetime warranties with their cards
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
February 22 2011 16:10 GMT
#3231
On February 22 2011 19:39 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 00:06 ensign_lee wrote:
Also, silentness - the i7-2600k is not easier to overclock than the i5-2500k. They are pretty much *THE EXACT SAME CHIP*, but Intel decided to disable hyper threading on the i5's. 2MB more in the L3 cache too, but meh.

If $100 really isn't that much to you, then yeah, go with the i7-2600k. But honestly, that $100 is better spent elsewhere...like...a solid state drive! :D

Otherwise, I suppose if you run SETI@home or something like that, your computer will use the hyper threading and be able to work on 8 projects at once instead of just 4. That'd be kinda cool?

Also, as far as what SE stands for, I think it stands for "slow edition." No joke. Don't quote me on that though. :D


uhh you sure that's my post? I never mentioned i7 2600k or GTX 460 SE?

I have AMD 955 Black Edition and yep I do have a Intel x-25 120 GB SSD. W00T!


Err...whoops. That was supposed to be @ JetGillLee
Mischi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany133 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 16:24:58
February 22 2011 16:24 GMT
#3232
On February 23 2011 00:48 KOFgokuon wrote:
Warranties matter too, XFX and EVGA often give lifetime warranties with their cards


That depends on the specific card, the low price ones "only" have 3 years warranty.
Only the really overpriced ones usually have lifetime warranty.
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 16:36:41
February 22 2011 16:36 GMT
#3233
On February 23 2011 01:24 Mischi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 00:48 KOFgokuon wrote:
Warranties matter too, XFX and EVGA often give lifetime warranties with their cards


That depends on the specific card, the low price ones "only" have 3 years warranty.
Only the really overpriced ones usually have lifetime warranty.


Don't know where you got this idea. Any -AR card by eVGA is a lifetime warranty and at normal price. E.g. here's a 560 at a normal $249 price:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604&cm_re=gtx_560-_-14-130-604-_-Product

With no power comes no responsibility?
Mischi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany133 Posts
February 22 2011 16:47 GMT
#3234
Yeah, after looking it up again i saw it too, sorry about that.
You have to register them and then it's 10 years warranty (at least that's how it is in Germany).
The usefulness though is debatable, all graphics cards I ever had are still ok and usually you will buy a new card within 3 years or so anyway.
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
February 22 2011 18:05 GMT
#3235
Hi,
I'm building a computer right now, but I've been stopped dead in my tracks at the part where I am supposed to insert the motherboard into the case.
See the problem is that one of the riser-holes, (not preinstalled, screwed them in myself) don't match the holes in the case.
Risers are screws used to hold the board in place, and height, while simultanously maintaining constant grounding for the motherboard.
My question is this, will this one missing riser affect my board?
AKA SuddenSalad
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 22 2011 18:16 GMT
#3236
@Lovin

There are nine standoffs for ATX boards. It's fine if you don't install all nine.

Maybe this? http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/How-to-Install-a-Motherboard/145/2
Mischi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany133 Posts
February 22 2011 18:17 GMT
#3237
Am i reading this right? You screwed holes into your mainboard? Seriously?

Generally speaking missing screws shouldn't be any problem, screwing holes on the other hand..
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
February 22 2011 18:32 GMT
#3238
On February 23 2011 03:17 Mischi wrote:
Am i reading this right? You screwed holes into your mainboard? Seriously?

Generally speaking missing screws shouldn't be any problem, screwing holes on the other hand..


No, haha, I screwed the risers (a kind of screw) into the case, and then you have holes in the board that you place on top of the risers, then screw a screw into the riser, with the motherboard between..
this guy helped me through it, and if you want the explanation with visuals you can watch it.



Thanks a ton, SkyR!
AKA SuddenSalad
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 22 2011 18:52 GMT
#3239
I'm having a tough time finding a mid-tower case that will fit a Radeon HD 6970 and has the appearance I'm looking for. I want a case that is plain-looking and doesn't have molded plastic, windows or lights. I really like this one but the Lian Li website lists the video card space at 285 mm. The 6970 is 287 mm long :/.

Is it recommended to go with a full-tower case for gaming rigs?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 22 2011 19:03 GMT
#3240
@Doodsmack

I have a Lian Li PC-9F, it's a beautiful case and has room for 11 inch long cards. Not sure where you got the measurement of the 6970 since the actual card is 10.6 inches long. It'll fit in the case.
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