EPTI find it interesting that neither of us can run RAM even at 1600 (it seems) though with stock system agent, aio, dio at high core speeds, it throws up issues really fast, gotta spend some time figuring out which are neccesary and how low they can be etc
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Cyro
United Kingdom20294 Posts
I find it interesting that neither of us can run RAM even at 1600 (it seems) though with stock system agent, aio, dio at high core speeds, it throws up issues really fast, gotta spend some time figuring out which are neccesary and how low they can be etc | ||
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t0ssboy
Bulgaria681 Posts
Athlon II X4 740 Quad core (3.2GHz (Turbo Freq. @3.7GHz), 4MB L2, 65W, FM2) BOX 8GB DDR3 1333MHz 1000GB, SATA2, 7200rpm, 32MB DVDRW +R 22x, -R 22x, +RW 8x, -RW 6x, DVD 16x, CDRWR 48x48x40x AMD A55, DDR3, PCI-E (DVI), SB5.1, Lan1000, 6xSATA RAID 0,1,10, mATX ATi HD6670, 1GB DDR3, PCI-E, 128bit, HDMI & DVI (HDCP) ATX 460W, JNC RJA 321, Black, USB, 120mm fan PSU, JAR Computers is this PC good for gaming? | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 29 2013 17:50 t0ssboy wrote: My birthday's comming and i have to get myself something nice. Athlon II X4 740 Quad core (3.2GHz (Turbo Freq. @3.7GHz), 4MB L2, 65W, FM2) BOX 8GB DDR3 1333MHz 1000GB, SATA2, 7200rpm, 32MB DVDRW +R 22x, -R 22x, +RW 8x, -RW 6x, DVD 16x, CDRWR 48x48x40x AMD A55, DDR3, PCI-E (DVI), SB5.1, Lan1000, 6xSATA RAID 0,1,10, mATX ATi HD6670, 1GB DDR3, PCI-E, 128bit, HDMI & DVI (HDCP) ATX 460W, JNC RJA 321, Black, USB, 120mm fan PSU, JAR Computers is this PC good for gaming? I don't know what prices are like in Bulgaria, but the processor isn't so bad for a real budget choice. The graphics is atrocious though. Depending on prices it might be worth buying this and then putting a more appropriate graphics card in. Or it might be worth just looking elsewhere. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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t0ssboy
Bulgaria681 Posts
Box cooling. ASRock 970 Pro3 socket AM3+ 4GB (2x2GB) A-DATA 1600MHz DDR3 Premier series Sapphire Radeon HD7750 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E 500GB Western Digital Blue Edition 16MB S-ATA III Delux DLC-MV875 Black 400W Delux LG GH24NS90 DVD-RW Black S-ATA They come in at around the same price point.is this one any better? | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
Here are my current specs: Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 System -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Model H55M-S2H Total amount of system memory 4.00 GB RAM System type 64-bit operating system Number of processor cores 2 Graphics -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Display adapter type NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Total available graphics memory 2237 MB Dedicated graphics memory 512 MB Dedicated system memory 0 MB Shared system memory 1725 MB Display adapter driver version 9.18.13.1106 Primary monitor resolution 1440x900 What is your budget? I would like to spend $300 - $500, but I'm not sure how doable that is. I would like to be able to play modern games on high settings, if possible. If not I will settle for lower settings in order to stay within my budget. What is your resolution? Primary monitor resolution 1440x900. What are you using it for? Exclusively gaming What is your upgrade cycle? 3+ years, if possible. When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible, but definitely within the next couple months. Do you plan on overclocking? I don't even know what this is so I'll go with a "no" : ) Do you need an Operating System? No. Currently using windows 7. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? I'm in the US, so I figured newegg would be a good option? If anyone has suggestions for a better place to buy parts I would love to hear them. Thanks for your time! | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 29 2013 21:21 Shikyo wrote: 6670 isnt really atrocious, it's quite doable and would be my card of choice for a budget machine. Depends on the prices, I don't see real issues with the components even though I of course would rather have some pentium or even i3 processor at that price point I guess on low res, but the Athlon isn't that bad so wouldn't the 6670 be your bottleneck most of the time? On July 29 2013 22:59 Mercy13 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hey guys, I built a computer about 3 years ago based upon advice from a friend. So far, I've been very pleased with it and it's been able to run everything at least on medium settings. During the latest steam sale, however, I picked up The Witcher 2, and my current build can't handle it even on low settings so I think it's time for a few upgrades : ) I'm a total newbie when it comes to hardware, so I'm hoping someone here can provide advice for which components I should buy. Here are my current specs: Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 530 @ 2.93GHz Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 System -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Model H55M-S2H Total amount of system memory 4.00 GB RAM System type 64-bit operating system Number of processor cores 2 Graphics -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Display adapter type NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 Total available graphics memory 2237 MB Dedicated graphics memory 512 MB Dedicated system memory 0 MB Shared system memory 1725 MB Display adapter driver version 9.18.13.1106 Primary monitor resolution 1440x900 What is your budget? I would like to spend $300 - $500, but I'm not sure how doable that is. I would like to be able to play modern games on high settings, if possible. If not I will settle for lower settings in order to stay within my budget. What is your resolution? Primary monitor resolution 1440x900. What are you using it for? Exclusively gaming What is your upgrade cycle? 3+ years, if possible. When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible, but definitely within the next couple months. Do you plan on overclocking? I don't even know what this is so I'll go with a "no" : ) Do you need an Operating System? No. Currently using windows 7. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? I'm in the US, so I figured newegg would be a good option? If anyone has suggestions for a better place to buy parts I would love to hear them. Thanks for your time! Depending on your power supply you might be able to fit a low end i5, mobo and a cheaper graphics into $500. Need to know what power supply you have, should be written on the side of it. On July 29 2013 21:23 t0ssboy wrote: AMD FX-4100 Bulldozer 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 95W 4-Core Black Edition BOX Box cooling. ASRock 970 Pro3 socket AM3+ 4GB (2x2GB) A-DATA 1600MHz DDR3 Premier series Sapphire Radeon HD7750 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E 500GB Western Digital Blue Edition 16MB S-ATA III Delux DLC-MV875 Black 400W Delux LG GH24NS90 DVD-RW Black S-ATA They come in at around the same price point.is this one any better? This is straight up better than the last, but AMD is barely competitive on CPUs these day, are there any intel builds around? | ||
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
On July 29 2013 23:22 Blaec wrote: I guess on low res, but the Athlon isn't that bad so wouldn't the 6670 be your bottleneck most of the time? Depending on your power supply you might be able to fit a low end i5, mobo and a cheaper graphics into $500. Need to know what power supply you have, should be written on the side of it. This is straight up better than the last, but AMD is barely competitive on CPUs these day, are there any intel builds around? Thanks for responding, here is the information from my power supply: BFG, Model: BFGR550WGSPSU Fan Controlled ATX12v Switching Power Supply AC Input: 115/230V~, 50/60hz, 7/4A | ||
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SPoF
Luxembourg19 Posts
The parts I selected to build are: ASUS P8Z77-V LX2 i5-3570k Corsair DDR3 8GB 2x Gigabyte GTX660 SC Western Digital 1TB HDD 2x bequiet L8 600W which would bring me to around 950€-1000€ + Keyboard, Mouse, OS and maybe a new Monitor I want your feedback on the build. Is there anything I could optimize in it? My budget is around 1000€ to 1500€, the lower the better EDIT: I don't plan on overclocking, will be used for virtually everything, but should have enough power for gaming and it should have enough power to last for roughly the next 3 to 4 years. If i get a new monitor, resolution will be 1920x1080, else i will reuse my Acer X223w with a resolution of 1680x1050 | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 30 2013 00:07 Mercy13 wrote: Thanks for responding, here is the information from my power supply: BFG, Model: BFGR550WGSPSU Fan Controlled ATX12v Switching Power Supply AC Input: 115/230V~, 50/60hz, 7/4A Bad news, google says it has a good chance of exploding if you pull close to its advertised power. Apparently its a relabeled one of these. Maybe you can still get an ok build for $500 with this psu but ill leave that to someone more confident in exactly how much power systems draw. On July 30 2013 00:09 SPoF wrote: + Show Spoiler + As my birthday is approaching (beginning of september) I'm looking to switch back to a PC after owning a Macbook for about 2 years. The parts I selected to build are: ASUS P8Z77-V LX2 i5-3570k Corsair DDR3 8GB 2x Gigabyte GTX660 SC Western Digital 1TB HDD 2x bequiet L8 600W which would bring me to around 950€-1000€ + Keyboard, Mouse, OS and maybe a new Monitor I want your feedback on the build. Is there anything I could optimize in it? My budget is around 1000€ to 1500€, the lower the better Get a i5-4670k and Z87 mobo unless the 3570 is significantly cheaper. Old generation stuff is rarely worth it. Drop one of the HDDs and get a Samsung 840 ssd in whatever size you can afford. Though I think new samsung SSDs will be out by september so check on that. Otherwise pretty good. | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
On July 30 2013 00:09 SPoF wrote: As my birthday is approaching (beginning of september) I'm looking to switch back to a PC after owning a Macbook for about 2 years. The parts I selected to build are: ASUS P8Z77-V LX2 i5-3570k Corsair DDR3 8GB 2x Gigabyte GTX660 SC Western Digital 1TB HDD 2x bequiet L8 600W which would bring me to around 950€-1000€ + Keyboard, Mouse, OS and maybe a new Monitor I want your feedback on the build. Is there anything I could optimize in it? My budget is around 1000€ to 1500€, the lower the better you need to answer the quesiton in the op for us to really be able to help you otherwise getting last gen i5 is dumb, and a 760 isn't that more costly then a 660 with a lot more power | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
A newer generation of CPUs got released (named "Haswell"). It's i5-4670k, the new socket is LGA1150 and the board for that is Z87 chipset. A newer generation of NVidia GPUs also got released. Look into GTX 760. That CPU with the "k" at the end is unlocked for overclocking. If you don't want to do that, you can go for the normal CPU without that "k" and you can go for H87 board instead of Z87. If you want to overclock, you will need a separate CPU cooler, and it shouldn't be something very cheap for Haswell. Look into 40 € at least, Thermalright HR-02 Macho being the usual solid choice in Europe. You should look into an SSD. It does a lot to improve how it feels working with the PC. Samsung 840 at 120 GB or 250 GB isn't that expensive. It seems you want to buy two HDDs and go for RAID, but the performance of the SSD is something else and unbeatable. | ||
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SPoF
Luxembourg19 Posts
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t0ssboy
Bulgaria681 Posts
On July 29 2013 21:23 t0ssboy wrote: AMD FX-4100 Bulldozer 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 95W 4-Core Black Edition BOX Box cooling. ASRock 970 Pro3 socket AM3+ 4GB (2x2GB) A-DATA 1600MHz DDR3 Premier series Sapphire Radeon HD7750 1GB GDDR5 PCI-E 500GB Western Digital Blue Edition 16MB S-ATA III Delux DLC-MV875 Black 400W Delux LG GH24NS90 DVD-RW Black S-ATA They come in at around the same price point.is this one any better? Figured i'd ask.As i will be mainly using this PC for games,will ibe able to use it for streaming as well?(Mostly BW and HOTS) | ||
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
anyhow then you'd be looking at a i5-4570, b75 motherboard, random 2*4gb ram, superflower golden green 450, samsung series 840 120/250gb, hard drive size of your likings, and same for the case | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 30 2013 01:25 Rachnar wrote: what games specificly? anyhow then you'd be looking at a i5-4570, b75 motherboard, random 2*4gb ram, superflower golden green 450, samsung series 840 120/250gb, hard drive size of your likings, and same for the case *B85. I often make the same mistake. | ||
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Thoenix
United Kingdom10 Posts
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
On July 30 2013 00:22 Blaec wrote: Bad news, google says it has a good chance of exploding if you pull close to its advertised power. Apparently its a relabeled one of these. Maybe you can still get an ok build for $500 with this psu but ill leave that to someone more confident in exactly how much power systems draw. Get a i5-4670k and Z87 mobo unless the 3570 is significantly cheaper. Old generation stuff is rarely worth it. Drop one of the HDDs and get a Samsung 840 ssd in whatever size you can afford. Though I think new samsung SSDs will be out by september so check on that. Otherwise pretty good. It explodes? Well that's pretty troubling... So you don't think it's possible to significantly upgrade my machine without purchasing a new power supply as well? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On July 30 2013 03:09 Thoenix wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hey guys, I'm not sure if someone is looking into it or if my post has been missed somehow. But I'm still looking for some help building a computer. I'm pretty much a complete noob with all this, so need all the help I can get. My answer to the OP questions are on the previous page (1598). Thanks again. Most of the people who gives builds are from the US and are not familiar with European pricing or retailers. If you do some research and post a build yourself, you'll get a lot more responses on how to make it better. On July 30 2013 05:44 Mercy13 wrote: It explodes? Well that's pretty troubling... So you don't think it's possible to significantly upgrade my machine without purchasing a new power supply as well? Your build should be able to handle Witcher 2 on low settings so... there may be other problems besides inadequate hardware. You can do a lot but not everything with $500. Power supply would of course be one of the things you're going to buy. A Rosewill Capstone 450 which is very good and capable would be $60. I'm not sure what kind of computer you have but if it's a HP / Dell / etc prebuilt then you may want a better case for ~$40 - ~$80. You can spend ~$200 on a core i5, ~$70 on a H87 / B85 board, and you can just re-use your RAM. Depending on how much you spent on the case, that leaves you with enough for a Radeon HD7770 for ~$110 or GTX 650 Ti Boost for ~$140 or Radeon HD7870 for ~$180. Since you're running such a low resolution and if you have no plans to get a new monitor, you should get a Radeon HD7770. You can also go with a less expensive power supply like a CX430 for ~$40 and use the extra money towards a Samsung 840 for ~$90. There are about a dozen other ways to go with a $500 upgrade. | ||
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