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Picking up some parts tomorrow:
Intel Core i7 4770K Unlocked Quad Core 3.5GHZ Processor LGA1150 Haswell 8MB Cache Retail
Gigabyte Z87X-OC ATX LGA1150 Z87 DDR3 3PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 HDMI CrossFireX/SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard
Fractal Tesla R2 650W ATX 12V 80PLUS Gold SLI and CrossFireX Support Power Supply 135mm Fan
Fractal Design Arc MIDI R2 Tower Computer Case 2X5.25 8X3.5INT No PS Fan Controller & Front USB3.0
Already have:
Cooling: Swiftech H220
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro + some older SATA hardrives from my previous system
Ram: 2x2GB Ripjaws and 2x4gb Ripjaws
GPU: GTX 470
Will be picking up a new graphics card as soon as I see the response to the newest nvidia offerings.
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Z87X-OC is a board designed for competitive overclocking and it doesn't seem like you'll be doing that since you're buying an Arc Midi R2 so a Z87X-UD4H would probably be a better choice.
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Hello, I'm looking to help my brother put together his first PC and was looking for some advice.
I'll be there to help him put it together but would like if it was simple to put together.
What is your budget?
$300-$500, most likely around $400
What is your resolution?
1600*900
What are you using it for?
SC2, YouTube, Minecraft and other gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
1 year
When do you plan on building it?
I'd like to get the parts before his birthday in 2 weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Any online supplier that will ship to Alaska. (Amazon, TigerDirect, Newegg etc...)
If anyone could get help me out it would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Edit 1. I know it's a low budget, but if I could get him started out with some of the parts that would work too
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On June 25 2013 10:41 skyR wrote:
Z87X-OC is a board designed for competitive overclocking and it doesn't seem like you'll be doing that since you're buying an Arc Midi R2 so a Z87X-UD4H would probably be a better choice.
Why take a Ud4h over a ud3h? I mean i'm running ud3h with a silver arrow, belial's running a ud3h with a h110 i think it was and delid, i would consider ud3h to be overkill for standard purposes and z87x-ud4h, ud5h and OC are just even more overkill.
Newegg's still doing the $100 off ud3h, extreme6, gd45 or z87-pro when combo'd with 4770k so ud3h is absolutely the best choice of a board right now IMO
If you're overclocking Haswell, read everything in the OP of this thread + some more, and post in it: www.overclock.net/t/1401976/the-gigabyte-z87-haswell-overclocking-oc-guide
no excuses
H220 so tons of headroom, but you HAVE to do it right. Gigabyte for example, manual voltage is actually adaptive, so unless you want to be hit with a >0.1v overvolt on vcore when avx instructions are heavily used (ibt and prime will blow you up here, not really anything outside of stress tests, but you must be aware of it) and that's one example of something that will mess up your overclocking if you don't have all the knowledge you need. It won't just raise your temperatures and make you cut 200mhz+ from your overclock for no reason, but it's actually dangerous, if you have Vcore running 0.15v higher than you think it is you can mess things up quite easily.
You should be able to get a bit over 1.35vcore with a h220 and 4770k if you want to, and properly tuned IVR input voltage etc with an average CPU you can probably get 4.7-4.8ghz with that
On June 25 2013 10:42 ConQueR wrote:
Hello, I'm looking to help my brother put together his first PC and was looking for some advice.
I'll be there to help him put it together but would like if it was simple to put together.
What is your budget?
$300-$500, most likely around $400
What is your resolution?
1600*900
What are you using it for?
SC2, YouTube, Minecraft and other gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
1 year
When do you plan on building it?
I'd like to get the parts before his birthday in 2 weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Any online supplier that will ship to Alaska. (Amazon, TigerDirect, Newegg etc...)
If anyone could get help me out it would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
This is a bit low budget, tricky to work with, i'm not sure what to suggest
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Just listed the OC equivalent.
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On June 25 2013 10:41 skyR wrote:
Z87X-OC is a board designed for competitive overclocking and it doesn't seem like you'll be doing that since you're buying an Arc Midi R2 so a Z87X-UD4H would probably be a better choice.
UD4H isn't available at NCIX CA which is where I am doing all my pick-ups from.
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On June 25 2013 10:42 ConQueR wrote:
Hello, I'm looking to help my brother put together his first PC and was looking for some advice.
I'll be there to help him put it together but would like if it was simple to put together.
What is your budget?
$300-$500, most likely around $400
What is your resolution?
1600*900
What are you using it for?
SC2, YouTube, Minecraft and other gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
1 year
When do you plan on building it?
I'd like to get the parts before his birthday in 2 weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Any online supplier that will ship to Alaska. (Amazon, TigerDirect, Newegg etc...)
If anyone could get help me out it would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Hmm, this is a tricky budget, but I'll give it my best shot:
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871
Mobo: ASrock AM3 $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157215
GPU: Sapphire Radeon 6670 $65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102988
PSU: Corsair CX430 $45 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
HDD: WD Blue 500GB $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
Case: APEX mid tower $24 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154109
Memory: G.Skill 4GB DDR3-1600 $38 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193
Optical drive: Samsung DVD/CD ROM $17 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151267
Total: $369
I've never built a PC at this budget before, so it'll be best if a couple of the experts here could look it over. The CPU, GPU, and RAM are at the absolute minimum for gaming. If the cost+shipping does not put you over budget, you could upgrade the gpu to a radeon hd 7770.
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What is your budget?
900-1000 Canadian including a monitor and operating system.
What is your resolution?
Probably 1920 x 1080
What are you using it for?
Main game will be Sc2 but will pick up the occasional new release. Bioshock Infinite and Borderlands 2 being the most recent.
What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years. Not against upgrading a part or two occasionally.
When do you plan on building it?
Would like to order parts in the next week or so. If it isn't ridiculous I'd like to order all the parts from NCIX.ca so that I can do the 50 dollar build that they do.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I'm not against it but the 4th generation overclocking seems a lot more complicated than the 3rd gen. Value wise it seems well worth it to get a post market fan and overclock it though. Might just not do it right away.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Preferably all from the NCIX canada site. For simplicity sake I'd like if they build it as I haven't built a computer before, and I have no replacement parts whatsoever if trouble shooting needs to happen.
Note: I'm fine buying the monitor elsewhere as it isn't a necessary component for them to build it.
Thanks for any help/ advice.
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On June 25 2013 10:52 Cyro wrote:
This is a bit low budget, tricky to work with, i'm not sure what to suggest
It's his first computer it has to good enough and only good enough.
On June 25 2013 10:42 ConQueR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hello, I'm looking to help my brother put together his first PC and was looking for some advice.
I'll be there to help him put it together but would like if it was simple to put together.
What is your budget?
$300-$500, most likely around $400
What is your resolution?
1600*900
What are you using it for?
SC2, YouTube, Minecraft and other gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
1 year
When do you plan on building it?
I'd like to get the parts before his birthday in 2 weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Any online supplier that will ship to Alaska. (Amazon, TigerDirect, Newegg etc...)
If anyone could get help me out it would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Edit 1. I know it's a low budget, but if I could get him started out with some of the parts that would work too
Whole computer for ~$400 ezpz, We use to give out budget lists all the time before we became Mhz pinching elitists.
G2020 2.9Ghz $64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116886
ASRock B75M-DGS R2.0 $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157362
G.Skill 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1600 1.5v c9 $37.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231193
Sapphire HD7770 $109.99 ($15MIR) (2 free games)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202011
WD Blue 500GB $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
Antec VP-450 $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045
NZXT Source 210 $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
DVD Burner (if needed) $14.99 with promocode EMCXPVW92, ends 6/27
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151266
Total: $417.92 (with dvd burner)
E: This is better than Ray's build. Also I'm always ninja'd in this thread, Maybe I should stop looking for combo deals (which unfortunately I couldn't find any good ones here).
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On June 25 2013 12:05 SideAffect wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
900-1000 Canadian including a monitor and operating system.
What is your resolution?
Probably 1920 x 1080
What are you using it for?
Main game will be Sc2 but will pick up the occasional new release. Bioshock Infinite and Borderlands 2 being the most recent.
What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years. Not against upgrading a part or two occasionally.
When do you plan on building it?
Would like to order parts in the next week or so. If it isn't ridiculous I'd like to order all the parts from NCIX.ca so that I can do the 50 dollar build that they do.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I'm not against it but the 4th generation overclocking seems a lot more complicated than the 3rd gen. Value wise it seems well worth it to get a post market fan and overclock it though. Might just not do it right away.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Preferably all from the NCIX canada site. For simplicity sake I'd like if they build it as I haven't built a computer before, and I have no replacement parts whatsoever if trouble shooting needs to happen.
Note: I'm fine buying the monitor elsewhere as it isn't a necessary component for them to build it.
Thanks for any help/ advice.
NCIX has sales every Wednesday so if you're not buying until next week. It's best to come back and ask after Wednesday then we can come up with a build for you that makes the best of your budget.
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Hey TL, this is my first post, sorry if i screw up any formatting issues. Im looking to build my first PC and i would love some help.
What is your budget?
1000~ i assume ill have to dish out another few hundred 1300 is my limit
What is your resolution?
1920 X 1080
What are you using it for?
SC2>, and maybe some bf4 when it comes out.
Edit: lots of movies too, not sure if that factors into anything. (thats why i put that sound card on my list, let me know if that is a good choice or not)
What is your upgrade cycle?
this is my first build so i imagine ill be good for some time. Ill upgrade next time there is a big jump in cpu performance.
When do you plan on building it?
when ever im 100% happy with all the parts
Do you plan on overclocking?
i think in time yes this will be something i want to do.
Do you need an Operating System?
yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
yes, (i have little to no understanding on modern gpu's and their capabilities)
Where are you buying your parts from?
i have a microcenter near me, as well as new egg possibly.
let me know what you guys think. I really want to be able to run sc2 as max as possible and really make use of the new physics in HOTS
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So I am entirely new to overclocking, but I think I didn't realize when making my purchase something when choosing my ram. Am I correct in thinking that RAM speeds over 1600 are overclocked? If that is the case, how do I get my current ram to its rated speed (2400)? Is it as simple as enabling the XMP profile and save/exit? I'm on a ud3h btw.
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Yes, you just enable XMP.
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Just got done with my build, I have a question what kind of software do you guys usually use to keep your computers running smooth for as long as posible?
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Nothing. Just want to format every now and then?
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Install as little stuff as possible. Try to see if everything runs without using the disc with software and drivers that came with the motherboard, only install what's really needed or enables a feature you'd like to use.
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On June 26 2013 05:03 skyR wrote:
Nothing. Just want to format every now and then?
I'm curious as to how often you guys do this? It would probably be a good idea for me to figure out how to make an image of my OS so that I could do it quickly (I assume you do this already).
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I don't do image backups. I only have about a dozen programs needed to be installed and that's only because Windows is shit so I need other programs to do the task -.-
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On June 26 2013 05:14 wo1fwood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2013 05:03 skyR wrote:
Nothing. Just want to format every now and then? I'm curious as to how often you guys do this? It would probably be a good idea for me to figure out how to make an image of my OS so that I could do it quickly (I assume you do this already).
I try to never do it. Windows already once lived through a handful of years of use without format and without really slowing down. I also moved it between motherboards+CPU and from an old hard drive to a new one without anything bad happening. The last time something broke too much was when I couldn't install graphics card drivers without Safe Mode anymore. No suggestions I tried to fix that problem worked.
Backups saved my butt a few times, so you might want to look into that. Windows 8 also has that File History stuff that can do hourly backups and doesn't seem to slow down the PC even when run on a lot of data (with an SSD). I also kind of feel system images are not that important, but I do them anyways. Those hourly backups of files are pretty neat in comparison, very helpful if you fucked something up when working.
I don't think I actually ever got the Windows 7 system image recovery to work correctly when moving to a new hard drive. It only ever worked when doing the restore on the exact same hard drive that was mirrored in the backup images. That makes the backup pretty useless for protection against the hard drive failing, but the images can still be useful. They are actually virtual hard drive files like used for virtual machines. You can mount those files as drives in Disk Management and look through it after installing a new Windows.
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