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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
January 01 2013 01:31 GMT
#26601
On January 01 2013 10:30 skyR wrote:
A Western Digital Caviar Black is a HDD, not a SSD.


I mean to go with my SSD, which is my OS/most played game drive.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 01 2013 01:35 GMT
#26602
If it's the same price as the Blue than by all means go ahead and purchase it.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
January 01 2013 01:37 GMT
#26603
Thank you. I've heard that the Blacks tend to be louder than Blues. Is this not going to be very noticeable?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 01 2013 01:44 GMT
#26604
Yes, Blacks are noisy. It may or may not bother you depending on the rest of your setup and how often it'll be in use.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
January 01 2013 21:11 GMT
#26605
Is there anything notably bad about this power supply?

Enermax Naxn Tomahawk II 450w ($36)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=61534&vpn=NAXN ENP450AST&manufacture=ENERMAX
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 01 2013 21:25 GMT
#26606
NAXN Tomahawk II (ENP___AST) is CWT GPL I think.

It's the "wtf Corsair CX quality is too expensive, so let's cut even more corners and find as many reasonable cost-cutting measures as well can" build. Modern-day Corsair CX and some of the 80-plus NAXN are CWT DSA / DSA II, btw, which is also considered a budget design, but of course higher than this stuff. It's nowhere close to firecracker tier, and it would do in a pinch. But it's a cheapy for sure.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
January 01 2013 21:31 GMT
#26607
Thank you yet again!
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
ORooK
Profile Joined July 2012
18 Posts
January 01 2013 21:46 GMT
#26608
Anyone have any recommendations on a good single GPU card(preferably nvidia)? I currently have a EVGA gtx 570 and want to upgrade the card to possibly the 600 series. Also, a recommendation on what company would be great too since I initially had a lot of problems with EVGA.

Thanks in advance.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
January 01 2013 22:01 GMT
#26609
Having a lot of problems with EVGA sounds really weird to say the least. In fact, I'd say their support is frequently the best reason to go nvidia over AMD with prices the last couple of generations.

If you want to upgrade from a 570 to a single gpu card, you're getting either a 660Ti, 670 or a 680. 660Ti is only marginally an upgrade for some games, and a side-grade for others.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/518?vs=647

As usual, resolution and desired quality settings will play a part, and if you actually have a problem (or think you do) with a 570, I don't think a 660Ti is going to be a significant improvement for a lot of things.
ORooK
Profile Joined July 2012
18 Posts
January 01 2013 22:28 GMT
#26610
ya i was looking at some 670's. I'm running on 2560x1440 resolution. Right now I'm playing Dishonored and the graphics aren't too bad. I think if I upgrade to the 670 it'll be faster and have slightly bigger RAM since my 570 has 1280MB of RAM. I also had to up the voltage for my video card just to get it stable because the video card wasn't stable at default settings. I'm hoping the 670 will just run like a dream without too much hassle. =/
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 22:37:24
January 01 2013 22:36 GMT
#26611
Eh, I wouldn't call minor voltage related stability issues "a lot of problems". It's not something I'd expect out of them, but their support is amazing, so anything even vaguely minor won't dissuade me. I got a free upgrade from SLI 460 to SLI 560 Ti because I RMA'd a 460 and they didn't have one. Since both my cards were EVGA.

Lifetime warranty, overclock covered, and most basic mods don't void it. You can tell them you popped it open to re-paste it, hell, you can have an aftermarket cooler on it. Just swap back to the stock cooler and put it together again before you mail it to them, and they don't care.

If you're concerned about pure price/performance with no other considerations, the premium may not be worth it, but if you value the best consumer level support on the planet, it tends to be a good value. Now, the warranty is even transferrable on some lines.
ORooK
Profile Joined July 2012
18 Posts
January 01 2013 23:54 GMT
#26612
My experience with their support forum wasn't the worst, but i would say it definitely wasn't the best... It took me a pretty long time to get my rig to work, but then again i guess its partly my own fault for not upgrading bios,etc. I've gone with evga since gtx 200 series and I really don't mind sticking with them still. I guess I'm wondering if im going from the 570 to 670 if there will be a significant difference i guess/if its actually worth the price since the 670 FTW is ~$400.

btw thanks for helping out jinglehell. I appreciate it.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
January 01 2013 23:58 GMT
#26613
On January 02 2013 08:54 ORooK wrote:
My experience with their support forum wasn't the worst, but i would say it definitely wasn't the best... It took me a pretty long time to get my rig to work, but then again i guess its partly my own fault for not upgrading bios,etc. I've gone with evga since gtx 200 series and I really don't mind sticking with them still. I guess I'm wondering if im going from the 570 to 670 if there will be a significant difference i guess/if its actually worth the price since the 670 FTW is ~$400.

btw thanks for helping out jinglehell. I appreciate it.


The anand benchmarks will give you a rough basis for comparison, you can cross reference that to specific benchies of games and individual factory OCs to get a more specific idea.

Oh, and I wouldn't use the forums for support with EVGA. Call them. I've never stayed on hold for a significant chunk of time, even at midnight on a holiday (no exaggeration, I think I blogged about it at the end of 2011.) The forums are great and have their place, but for immediate issues, the phone is ideal. If there actually is a queue, just leave your number and have them call you back, it's usually within 5-10 minutes and your problem will be on it's way to solved quickly.

ORooK
Profile Joined July 2012
18 Posts
January 02 2013 03:27 GMT
#26614
hmmmmm. what's the difference betweeen these two?

EVGA 670 FTW
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130824

EVGA 670 SC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130785

Seems like the ftw has higher clock speeds and they both have different fans? Is there something else I am missing? Also, I wonder which one is more preferable..?
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
January 02 2013 04:09 GMT
#26615
just higher clock speeds

more preferably, at that price, an hd7970 over those 2

what do you need the card to do?
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
January 02 2013 05:19 GMT
#26616
How about a GTX 680 for $409AMIR?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133469

Truthfully though, there is no reason to buy anything more than a 7870.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 09:05:35
January 02 2013 08:59 GMT
#26617
$400 Gaming PC (SWTOR, Skyrim, SC2). I want to stream, or at the very least, record me playing games @720p (but I will play on 1080p). If my CPU is good enough stock, then I won't overclock it; if I have to overclock, it'll be somewhat my first time (I used Overdrive but I heard I should OC through BIOS), but I can learn.

CPU: Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

GPU: Sapphire HD7770 $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202011

MOBO: ASRock 970 Extrem3 $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280

PSU: Rosewill 450W 80 PLUS GOLD $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

I have an HDD, and 2x 2GB DDR3 1333 RAM. I might want buy a case, though. Problem is, w/ tax and shipping, I come out to ~$395. I can do rebates and save probably $10-$20. I live near a Fry's Electronics (and have a friend working there too), so if there's cheaper there, I'll buy at Fry's. I could also downgrade to a 955 and/or HD7750.

Oh, and is the MOBO compatible w/ the GPU? I think the MOBO has a 2.0 x16 but the GPU is 3.0 x16. I'm having difficulty finding a 3.0 x16 Motherboard.


EDIT: Streaming and/or recording are not necessary; I'm just wondering if this build has the ability to do so.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 09:42:48
January 02 2013 09:28 GMT
#26618
You will be pretty disappointed in your hardware performance while gaming because of the GPU. The vast majority of games are GPU bound.

I would focus on playability.

Something like a pentium G630 with a B75 board, HD7850 1GB. Later on ditch the G630 and get an i5-3450/3470/3550/3570 if you want to stream. Around $350.

HD7770 vs HD7850 Comparison

7850 is ~50-90% more powerful than the 7770. And in the case of SC2 100% more powerful.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 02 2013 09:54 GMT
#26619
Can anyone point me to a pretty decent gpu these days that will run almost any game at max? Just looking around now and wanting suggestions. Feel pretty stupid that I bought my 560ti like 6 months ago >_<. Maybe I can sell it for like 100 to get some back for a new card
BW -> League -> CSGO
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
January 02 2013 11:24 GMT
#26620
On January 02 2013 18:54 wussleeQ wrote:
Can anyone point me to a pretty decent gpu these days that will run almost any game at max? Just looking around now and wanting suggestions. Feel pretty stupid that I bought my 560ti like 6 months ago >_<. Maybe I can sell it for like 100 to get some back for a new card


What resolution do you play with? 1920x1080? And what FPS do you consider acceptable? 30? 60? 120? Is there a budget-limit? There are plenty of GPUs available that will outperform a 560 Ti, but they range from cheap, minor upgrades to the top-end models.

A starting point in your search could be the 660 Ti, which performs quite a bit better than your current 560 Ti as you can see in this comparison: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/547?vs=647

Whether this increase in performance is sufficient for your needs, I can't say.
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