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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 19:32:08
December 28 2012 19:25 GMT
#26561
On December 29 2012 02:35 Myrmidon wrote:
Latency? Response?

Let's back up. The word I'm looking for is to describe the rate of information delivery, i.e. data received per unit time. Generally we're talking about steady-state information / time, so latency is not considered. Or just assume that the information flow is endless and average over all time.

Bandwidth clearly implies the width of the frequency band as it does in all sorts of contexts, so please no. Some people are not liking speed, as in transfer speed. Anything that suggests signalling rate (symbol rate, chip rate, in some contexts) is not good, because in a large number of scenarios, there is not 1 info bit / symbol—over a serial bus, generally there are overheads (e.g. 8b/10b line code) bringing it under 1, and some kind of data-modulated RF transmission like Wi-Fi can have multiple info bits per symbol or less than unity as well. Anything that implies that the time unit of consideration includes time of transit and related ideas (propagation time / processing time / waiting in buffers / waiting on clock) is a little off too.


Yeah ItzSnypah's post implied to me that he defined "speed" as propagation time.

A lot of boards advertise similar features.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 19:40:47
December 28 2012 19:38 GMT
#26562
On December 29 2012 04:06 CorruptedGT wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
So I looked around and was curious how this setup is. I'm mainly concerned about these three (Graphics, CPU, and MoBo). I'm mainly going to be gaming and streaming on this thing. At the moment... I'm running a:
GT 240
AMD Phenom ii X4 940
ASUS M4n75TD

I linked the three and I am just curious which CPU should I go for? Any suggestion is needed. Thank you!

MoBo
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP4 TH LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with Dual Thunderbolt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128558

Graphics
EVGA 02G-P4-3651-KR GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130840

CPU
Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502


OR


Intel Core i7-2700K Sandy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623i72700K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115095

Did you decide differently about overclocking?

This:
On December 28 2012 05:49 CorruptedGT wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hi guys, I would really appreciate it if someone could help me out building a new computer. I've built computers before, but I have no idea what to buy and whats compatible; its too risky for me to go figure it out on my own...

My budget is about $1,000 - $1,500. Perferably on the lower side.

I am also planning to dual screen Acer G205HVbd Black 20" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 200 cd/m2 ACM 5,000:1 (700:1), but if anyone has a better monitor that they could suggest, I am open to all suggestions .

I am planning to use it for mainly gaming and streaming, but the occasion video watching.

My upgrade cycle is preferable 2+ years, but I can do short.

I plan to start building it as soon as I can. I have the money ready to go.

No overclocking.

The OS will be Windows 7.

I plan to also use Newegg to get all my parts.

EDIT: I would also like to get an SSD

Again, I would really appreciate the help!
Thank you!



plus any size monitor okay, don't need OS, all still valid? Which games would you be streaming? What's your upload speed? Depending on needs, parts can be wasteful or insufficient.

Z77X-UP4 is a more expensive enthusiast overclocking motherboard, by the way, but we may as just start from scratch.
CorruptedGT
Profile Joined September 2011
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 19:54:57
December 28 2012 19:43 GMT
#26563
On December 29 2012 04:38 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 04:06 CorruptedGT wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
So I looked around and was curious how this setup is. I'm mainly concerned about these three (Graphics, CPU, and MoBo). I'm mainly going to be gaming and streaming on this thing. At the moment... I'm running a:
GT 240
AMD Phenom ii X4 940
ASUS M4n75TD

I linked the three and I am just curious which CPU should I go for? Any suggestion is needed. Thank you!

MoBo
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP4 TH LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with Dual Thunderbolt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128558

Graphics
EVGA 02G-P4-3651-KR GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130840

CPU
Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502


OR


Intel Core i7-2700K Sandy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623i72700K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115095

Did you decide differently about overclocking?

This:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 05:49 CorruptedGT wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hi guys, I would really appreciate it if someone could help me out building a new computer. I've built computers before, but I have no idea what to buy and whats compatible; its too risky for me to go figure it out on my own...

My budget is about $1,000 - $1,500. Perferably on the lower side.

I am also planning to dual screen Acer G205HVbd Black 20" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 200 cd/m2 ACM 5,000:1 (700:1), but if anyone has a better monitor that they could suggest, I am open to all suggestions .

I am planning to use it for mainly gaming and streaming, but the occasion video watching.

My upgrade cycle is preferable 2+ years, but I can do short.

I plan to start building it as soon as I can. I have the money ready to go.

No overclocking.

The OS will be Windows 7.

I plan to also use Newegg to get all my parts.

EDIT: I would also like to get an SSD

Again, I would really appreciate the help!
Thank you!



plus any size monitor okay, don't need OS, all still valid? Which games would you be streaming? What's your upload speed? Depending on needs, parts can be wasteful or insufficient.

Z77X-UP4 is a more expensive enthusiast overclocking motherboard, by the way, but we may as just start from scratch.



yeah my cousin suggested that we try overclocking with this rig. I'll probably be streaming starcraft and dota2. I'm planning to upgrade my upload speed.

hmmm... i see...

EDIT: Scratch that motherboard. IDK what i was thinking lol. I guess thats what happens when you are running on 2 hours of sleep -_-....

looked around a bit more... might replace it with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 28 2012 20:01 GMT
#26564
Difference between i5 and i7 is really not that much, won't make much difference. If you're not talking about higher-end overclocking, then

Intel Core i5-3570k
AsRock Z77 Pro3 - total price $297
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1160934

Xigmatek Gaia - $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

EVGA GTX 650 Ti - $140 (should be okay for just SC2 and LoL but many would consider this on the weak side, especially for playing games in the near future or more demanding current games)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130838

You can certainly spend up if you want, but you may not really notice a difference from doing so for what you're doing.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 20:11:00
December 28 2012 20:10 GMT
#26565
Is the g45 regarded better than the pro 3? Much of a difference at all? I mean the MSI Z77A-G45.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
December 28 2012 20:19 GMT
#26566
On December 29 2012 05:10 Serpico wrote:
Is the g45 regarded better than the pro 3? Much of a difference at all? I mean the MSI Z77A-G45.


No. Not much difference. The pro3 is probably regarded a little better.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 28 2012 20:24 GMT
#26567
On December 29 2012 05:10 Serpico wrote:
Is the g45 regarded better than the pro 3? Much of a difference at all? I mean the MSI Z77A-G45.

The main draw is the PCIe x8/x8 split capability and SLI support. Some people could possibly be interested in the extra full-length PCIe slot and the SPDI/F digital audio transport support on the G45. Aside from that, not sure that they're different in ways most people would care about. Some people like MSI more than AsRock. Not sure about BIOS features. AsRock Pro3 level can usually overclock fine on air.
Limpya
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden2 Posts
December 28 2012 22:44 GMT
#26568
Hi everyone.

I decided it was time to swap my old grapics card gt 9800 gt to a newer one that could handel demanding games better.
I bought a gtx 670 oc version. I first tryed to put in the new grap card but it wouldent work .. putted in the old card and took away the drivers and then put in the new card again.. but all I get is black screen saying ( no cabel connected) I tryed both dvi and hdmi noone of em worked. I bought a 850 w power supply so it cant get to littel djuce.

If anyone have a idea on how to get rid of the black scrren so I can get in to bios or further would be great ^^
Hi
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
December 28 2012 22:59 GMT
#26569
On December 29 2012 07:44 Limpya wrote:
Hi everyone.

I decided it was time to swap my old grapics card gt 9800 gt to a newer one that could handel demanding games better.
I bought a gtx 670 oc version. I first tryed to put in the new grap card but it wouldent work .. putted in the old card and took away the drivers and then put in the new card again.. but all I get is black screen saying ( no cabel connected) I tryed both dvi and hdmi noone of em worked. I bought a 850 w power supply so it cant get to littel djuce.

If anyone have a idea on how to get rid of the black scrren so I can get in to bios or further would be great ^^


Did you plug in the 6 pin power connectors for the graphics card?
Limpya
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden2 Posts
December 28 2012 23:11 GMT
#26570
well I did plug in the power connectors from the power supply as many pins I could get into the grap card
Hi
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 00:09:07
December 29 2012 00:06 GMT
#26571
Can someone please look over this build for me? I am attempting to build a gaming PC that will be able to run most current games on med-high settings while retaining an acceptable frame rate.

Case+ Show Spoiler +
Case[/url


CPU+ Show Spoiler +
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115089]CPU


Memory+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104231


PSU + Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153166


Hard Drive + Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769


GPU + Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121651


Motherboard + Show Spoiler +
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157315


Does everything look in order? Am I getting the best bang for my buck? With the rebates and all it comes out to around 600ish.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 29 2012 00:13 GMT
#26572
It looks good except for the power supply, a TR2 isn't good. Get a Rosewill Capstone 450: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 or if you want to be cheap, a CX430: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

And next time don't put URLs in spoilers because its annoying and makes no sense.
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
December 29 2012 00:17 GMT
#26573
I think I will try the Capstone 450, will it be enough juice?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 29 2012 00:21 GMT
#26574
Yes, provides nearly the same amount as your original choice.
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
December 29 2012 00:22 GMT
#26575
Thanks skyR I appreciate the input and fast responses !
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
December 29 2012 00:27 GMT
#26576
On December 29 2012 08:11 Limpya wrote:
well I did plug in the power connectors from the power supply as many pins I could get into the grap card

Try reseating the gpu (pull it out of the pci-e slot, and put it back in). It would also be helpful if you could take a few close up photos of the power cord connectors you put it, the pci-e slot, and the output ports, so we can see if there are any obvious oversights
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 29 2012 00:37 GMT
#26577
On December 29 2012 08:11 Limpya wrote:
well I did plug in the power connectors from the power supply as many pins I could get into the grap card


That doesnt exactly instill confidence.
twitch.tv/medrea
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-29 00:44:17
December 29 2012 00:37 GMT
#26578
On December 29 2012 09:06 Eben wrote:+ Show Spoiler +



I would recommend going with a B75 board (for usb3.0/SATA3/PCIe3.0) and an i3-3220. ram that isn't 1.65v, a higher quality PSU and a studier case. Oh and your missing a DVD Burner.

Oh and maybe a 7870.

i3-3220 & DVD Burner $138.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1163383

ASRock B75M-DGS $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157335

Sapphire HD7870 $209.99 ($194.99AMIR) Free farcry3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202010

G.Skill Ares 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 $43.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231544

Rosewill LINE-M & Rosewill Capstone 450 80 Plus Gold $91.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1162903

Same HDD.

Total: $593.92 ($578.92AMIR) Free Farcry 3

EDIT: Damn I'm slow.
EDIT2: WTF my links are bonkers.
EDIT3: Fixed them links.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
December 29 2012 00:39 GMT
#26579
On December 29 2012 09:37 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 08:11 Limpya wrote:
well I did plug in the power connectors from the power supply as many pins I could get into the grap card


That doesnt exactly instill confidence.


I was kind of hoping it was a language barrier thing.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
December 29 2012 00:55 GMT
#26580
Pulled the trigger on my build and forgot I didn't have to pay sales tax on it from newegg and got ass creed 3 for free. Ended up putting rush processing on it and 3 day shipping and came out to under 750 total. Feel like I did a pretty good job researching and double checking everything. Now to hope I don't get any DOA parts when it arrives. Thanks everyone.
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