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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
May 25 2012 04:13 GMT
#22221
On May 25 2012 12:19 Leeto wrote:
I'm looking for a new internal hard drive (1 tb). The prices are still relatively high, and I'm going to need one by the end of summer. Should I just get one if it goes on sale now, or are the prices expected to go down anytime soon?



unstable prices, wild speculations, some say the HDD crisis was even faked because the two major HDD companies recorded extremely good total revenues. I would say if you -really- need it now, get it. If you don't you can wait.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 25 2012 04:49 GMT
#22222
On May 25 2012 13:13 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 12:19 Leeto wrote:
I'm looking for a new internal hard drive (1 tb). The prices are still relatively high, and I'm going to need one by the end of summer. Should I just get one if it goes on sale now, or are the prices expected to go down anytime soon?



unstable prices, wild speculations, some say the HDD crisis was even faked because the two major HDD companies recorded extremely good total revenues. I would say if you -really- need it now, get it. If you don't you can wait.



Eh he should just get a 1TB+DVD Burner combo and offload the DVD burner on Craigslist.

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB & DVD Burner $101.98
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.937131

For reference here is the Price of the HDD Alone:

Western Digiatal Caviar Blue 1TB $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767

The money made on selling the DVD Burner will easily offset any difference in HDD price in the near future.
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
May 25 2012 05:15 GMT
#22223
To the Guy who was talking about getting a 300-400€ notebook, your options are pretty limited there. I think HP is the only company that sells cheap there. Maybe dell. Just take your pick. If possible, find a comp with a core i3.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 25 2012 10:01 GMT
#22224
Sorry for attentionwhoring but I finally got my build today. UPS are amazing. Gonna grab my 670 this evening and then its building time!

[image loading]

I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 25 2012 10:20 GMT
#22225
On May 25 2012 19:01 Shauni wrote:
Sorry for attentionwhoring but I finally got my build today. UPS are amazing. Gonna grab my 670 this evening and then its building time!

[image loading]



How does the VGA cooler stay on? Brackets?
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 25 2012 10:56 GMT
#22226
Yeah, it has a lot of different brackets which will hopefully fit. I'm pondering whether I should butcher the cooler directly at arrival or not. Apparently the gigabyte 670 runs relatively silent and cools well, maybe it will only cripple the card to mount another cooler.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 11:26:59
May 25 2012 11:25 GMT
#22227
On May 25 2012 19:56 Shauni wrote:
Yeah, it has a lot of different brackets which will hopefully fit. I'm pondering whether I should butcher the cooler directly at arrival or not. Apparently the gigabyte 670 runs relatively silent and cools well, maybe it will only cripple the card to mount another cooler.


I'm not sure. Its obvious that your going for a minimalist fan setup. I think trying to go silent on air is almost impossible. It seems to truly go silent you have to go water cooling.

The more I read into water cooling the more I want to get a job so I can afford a new computer. Like I can buy a kit that has the pump/reservoir, 2 120x2 (120x240x25/34 I forget) Radiators, 4 120mm Fans, CPU waterblock, 2m of Hose and fittings for $170. Then it would cost $80 for VGA waterblock. A custom loop for ~$250 (when everybody else is saying it starts at 500) sounds like a great deal to me. There would the chipset waterblock I could buy down the road but other than that its complete.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 25 2012 11:39 GMT
#22228
pumps make noise and radiators need fans as well. Sure it can become more silent, but more expensive and at a risk of leakage.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
May 25 2012 11:43 GMT
#22229
that sounds like a very good price @ 250, because it does start at 350ish for just a gpu loop. 500 is when you do a full loop cpu + gpu.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 25 2012 11:47 GMT
#22230
On May 25 2012 20:39 Shauni wrote:
pumps make noise and radiators need fans as well. Sure it can become more silent, but more expensive and at a risk of leakage.

The risk of leakage on a properly installed system is miniscule. The water pressure of a whole system isn't enough to make a hose slip off the nipple even WITH the clamp took off.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Thezftw
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 12:50:35
May 25 2012 12:47 GMT
#22231
I want a more silent system as well, and well - I need a new case. Currently, my case is open, it's got some cheap ass build quality and has absolutely no dampening (not even silicons for HDDs). You know, one of those that you buy because it's the cheapest available.

Now I'm looking at FD Define R3 Mini (I have mATX board, so I'd rather have mATX case too). Anyone have experiences of this one or have a better one in mind?

My specs:

Gigabyte GA-880GM-USB3 (AM3+)
AMD Phenom II X6 @ 3,6Ghz f. CM Hyper 212+
Asus Radeon HD 6870 DirectCU
8GB RAM
500 + 2000 GB HDD's (I'm probably getting a 120 GB SSD to run windows + few softwares / games)

Note that I'm not looking for a system running at 0db, I want something that will go a bit further while looking decent. Currently my system isn't all that bad in terms of noise, although I realize I probably have to change few fans and my PSU (because it's shit and slightly noisy).
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 25 2012 12:50 GMT
#22232
On May 25 2012 20:47 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 20:39 Shauni wrote:
pumps make noise and radiators need fans as well. Sure it can become more silent, but more expensive and at a risk of leakage.

The risk of leakage on a properly installed system is miniscule. The water pressure of a whole system isn't enough to make a hose slip off the nipple even WITH the clamp took off.


How often do you have to cycle out the liquid when you use a closed loop?

Thanks.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 25 2012 12:57 GMT
#22233
On May 25 2012 19:56 Shauni wrote:
Yeah, it has a lot of different brackets which will hopefully fit. I'm pondering whether I should butcher the cooler directly at arrival or not. Apparently the gigabyte 670 runs relatively silent and cools well, maybe it will only cripple the card to mount another cooler.


You should have gone EVGA for that. As long as you don't smash it, and keep the stock cooler handy, warranty isn't voided by replacing the cooler.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 13:34:10
May 25 2012 13:33 GMT
#22234
On May 25 2012 21:50 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 20:47 iTzSnypah wrote:
On May 25 2012 20:39 Shauni wrote:
pumps make noise and radiators need fans as well. Sure it can become more silent, but more expensive and at a risk of leakage.

The risk of leakage on a properly installed system is miniscule. The water pressure of a whole system isn't enough to make a hose slip off the nipple even WITH the clamp took off.


How often do you have to cycle out the liquid when you use a closed loop?

Thanks.


Closed loops as in Corsair H series and Antec Kuhler series? None, warranty is very likely voided if you do.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
ExKkaMaGui
Profile Joined January 2012
75 Posts
May 25 2012 15:08 GMT
#22235
If you had a choice between 3930k for 200 vs the new 3570k for 180, which would be better? Why?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 15:18:41
May 25 2012 15:18 GMT
#22236
On May 26 2012 00:08 ExKkaMaGui wrote:
If you had a choice between 3930k for 200 vs the new 3570k for 180, which would be better? Why?


Have you looked at motherboards and RAM yet? It's rarely just the price difference in the CPU itself.
ExKkaMaGui
Profile Joined January 2012
75 Posts
May 25 2012 15:27 GMT
#22237
On May 26 2012 00:18 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 00:08 ExKkaMaGui wrote:
If you had a choice between 3930k for 200 vs the new 3570k for 180, which would be better? Why?


Have you looked at motherboards and RAM yet? It's rarely just the price difference in the CPU itself.

Have not looked at motherboards for 3930k yet. Did look at the ram and will probably go for 2x4gb and oc it(run me about 47 dollars or so).
How much are the motherboards for 3930k? and is it still worth it to get the 3930k over the new ivy?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
May 25 2012 15:52 GMT
#22238
The cheapest board on Newegg is around $200, around $100 more than your typical LGA1155 board. And that's a board with only 4x DIMM slots, instead of the 8x DIMM slots that make the socket worthwhile.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
May 25 2012 15:53 GMT
#22239
is there a program that shows the psu usage?
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-25 16:21:53
May 25 2012 16:15 GMT
#22240
On May 25 2012 21:57 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 19:56 Shauni wrote:
Yeah, it has a lot of different brackets which will hopefully fit. I'm pondering whether I should butcher the cooler directly at arrival or not. Apparently the gigabyte 670 runs relatively silent and cools well, maybe it will only cripple the card to mount another cooler.


You should have gone EVGA for that. As long as you don't smash it, and keep the stock cooler handy, warranty isn't voided by replacing the cooler.


Other companies are okay with it too from what I've read as long as you email and explain. The reason i didnt go for evga was cause they have almost no presence in EU, and their 670 is reference design which won't fit. The only 670 cards that would work are kfa2(galaxy) and gigabyte. Perhaps asus card too, not sure about that one.

And I've read a lot of posts where water cooling started leaking and destroying the other components, especially coolit solutions. So I'm a bit weary of watercooling.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
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