Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) - Page 8

Turbovolver

Australia2447 Posts

August 19 2026 00:59 GMT

#141

On August 19 2026 07:40 Haighstrom wrote:
I think it's time to revert to 12 workers. This change was clearly made with all the right intentions, and it was fun at first, but it's killed the ladder.

I just don't think blizzard has enough resources allocated to SC2 to be making changes like this, as it would require a lot more balance tweaking. Variety is at best neutral, but may even be down. Overall it's just not a fun patch.

They hardly gave it a chance. If they wanted to slow the game down why do larvae spawn faster and CC's cost less and gateways train faster?

If they didn't want to slow the game down, why did they cut starting worker counts in the first place?

It all smacks of surface level thought at best to me.

samAel1

Poland32 Posts

August 19 2026 10:58 GMT

#142

On August 19 2026 09:59 Turbovolver wrote:

Show nested quote +

100% true, WHY

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10382 Posts

August 27 2026 13:46 GMT

#143

I've been watching some SC1 recently, and wow it was way slower paced than I remember. Much lower supply (yeah not needing as many workers is part of that ofc), much slower game. It's a very different game ofc, it's much easier to do things in SC2 so if it's too slow it would be too boring. But 8-9 worker start still seems totally fine to me, 12 worker is just too much.

But yeah i'm surprised at the larvae change and i can't believe the 300 mineral CC hasn't been reverted yet.
Again, David Kim has said that the 12 worker start was to cut out a little of the start of each game. But if you simply start at 12 workers, it's not the same as starting at ~30 sec into the game with 6 worker start. We all understand that right? You don't have your depot at 10, you don't have the minerals to start your barracks at 12 etc. All the timings are off, and the supply are different too (CC, Nexus, Hatch gives more etc.)
So I'm still curious why I haven't heard people discuss the option of having say, 8 worker start with 150 minerals or 9 worker start with 100 minerals. (Someone would need to do the math/testing). To replicate a 6 worker start that simply starts ~30 sec into the game. You have the minerals to make your pylon/depot right at 9 or 10 supply, then gate/barracks at 12 etc. While still having the ability to vary your gas timings a lot more than 12 worker start.

BlackEyed

38 Posts

August 29 2026 06:33 GMT

#144

These guys basically broke the game and then fucked off for two months. What’s the point of changing anything if you’re not even going to stick around and deal with the consequences? They really handed the game over to a bunch of incompetent people.

PinoKotsBeer

Netherlands1386 Posts

September 03 2026 12:48 GMT

#145

I prefer not to mix in the balance issues since im not very good at the game. What i do know is that the fun factor for me dropped when LOTV came, HOTS was so much more fun. After years of trying LOTV, it never felt great again, but decent enough to keep playing and trying to improve.

But this patch, holy moly, this is next level of shittery and my experience on ladder is nothing but horrible. Not just the balance, but also the few remaining accounts. Facing the same people over and over or just another smurf/educational account who loves to troll and feel some kind of superiority over the expense of someone else.
Never thought that this mighty and beautiful game could turn out into a rotten junky corpse game
Thanks for the time when it was fun, for me its time to move on and close the chapter of SC2.

Triumph for "balance"...

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