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ProTech1
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November 05 2024 15:00 GMT
#101
On November 05 2024 22:46 WombaT wrote:
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On November 05 2024 22:01 ejozl wrote:
Much of this is done by artosis currently, how many protoss players in bw don't you think get verbal abuse online because of artosis succesful stream?

When you have a platform and a big one you should try to behave as a role model, this is obvious.

Protoss players have got abuse for 20+ years for well, playing Protoss.

I’d agree that Artosis’ behaviour would be unacceptable, if he didn’t behave totally differently in other environments. The auld duality of man!

People take his stream with a pinch of salt (joke intended), it’s ridiculous. But hey he’s otherwise a pretty level-headed, good guy who’s done a fucking ton for these games over the years. Given people spam him with Mario erotica, I think most of his viewers are sorta in on the OTT rage being something of a joke.

I mean, maybe the very first time when I was a youngling, I never thought say, the Angry Videogame Nerd was that angry in real life.

I’ve never heard of a player ever being banned from all ESL competition for non-cheating reasons, Avilo was and for good reason. It wasn’t an act, he’s just a piece of shit.

Even aside from the whole stalking farrago, he’d BM constantly. ‘Hey that maphacker I just played is also streaming, go harass him viewers’.

Aside from the obvious of well, broadcasting it, Artosis’ rage is actually pretty self-contained. It’s very much the ‘Protoss’ part of ‘Protoss player’ he’s usually ranting about, he’s not really shitting on the actual person. He also doesn’t really BM that much. Not never, but actually not that often. Like sure he’ll be ranting to his stream about how a fingerless monkey could get to S tier with Protoss for about 5 minutes prior, but more often than not he just gives the GG







Artosis is equally as insane as avilo when it comes to BM, the only difference is, he's actually popular. When you are popular you can get away with murder, i've seen it a thousand times over.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
November 05 2024 15:20 GMT
#102
On November 06 2024 00:00 ProTech1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2024 22:46 WombaT wrote:
On November 05 2024 22:01 ejozl wrote:
Much of this is done by artosis currently, how many protoss players in bw don't you think get verbal abuse online because of artosis succesful stream?

When you have a platform and a big one you should try to behave as a role model, this is obvious.

Protoss players have got abuse for 20+ years for well, playing Protoss.

I’d agree that Artosis’ behaviour would be unacceptable, if he didn’t behave totally differently in other environments. The auld duality of man!

People take his stream with a pinch of salt (joke intended), it’s ridiculous. But hey he’s otherwise a pretty level-headed, good guy who’s done a fucking ton for these games over the years. Given people spam him with Mario erotica, I think most of his viewers are sorta in on the OTT rage being something of a joke.

I mean, maybe the very first time when I was a youngling, I never thought say, the Angry Videogame Nerd was that angry in real life.

I’ve never heard of a player ever being banned from all ESL competition for non-cheating reasons, Avilo was and for good reason. It wasn’t an act, he’s just a piece of shit.

Even aside from the whole stalking farrago, he’d BM constantly. ‘Hey that maphacker I just played is also streaming, go harass him viewers’.

Aside from the obvious of well, broadcasting it, Artosis’ rage is actually pretty self-contained. It’s very much the ‘Protoss’ part of ‘Protoss player’ he’s usually ranting about, he’s not really shitting on the actual person. He also doesn’t really BM that much. Not never, but actually not that often. Like sure he’ll be ranting to his stream about how a fingerless monkey could get to S tier with Protoss for about 5 minutes prior, but more often than not he just gives the GG







Artosis is equally as insane as avilo when it comes to BM, the only difference is, he's actually popular. When you are popular you can get away with murder, i've seen it a thousand times over.

He’s not that BM, ranting to yourself (or your Twitch channel) isn’t filtering through to your opponent. Based on previous time watching his stream, if he’s actively BMing his opponents now no, I don’t think that’s cool

It’s like you didn’t even really read my post or something…

Artosis is popular, but it’s really got little to do with it. People cut him slack because in other domains, he’s a pretty good guy and people allow him a salty stream persona.

Met him in real life with Tasteless, 2 very cordial dudes. Randomly messaged him with something very specific I thought he should look at in his ‘In Depth’ show he did with NoRegret and he was receptive and actually covered it. Had a brief chat about parenting as my youngling was a few years old and his 6 months, got some insight into how moving to Korea was. We weren’t exchanging PMs for years but a decent wee exchange

You can be an asshole sometimes if you’re a general good lad the rest of the times, it’s nout to do with popularity
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