All these new RTS, are they taking away from SC2?
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CicadaSC
United States943 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany791 Posts
A good chunk of SC2 players (including Serral even) played the game at some point. But since it never truely found traction, I don't think any active SC2-pro switched over. I think the only exception is Demu(slim), who might cast less now that he is a AoE 4 pro for Liquid, but I'm not even sure about that. Leenock was also the case of a player who switched over, but eventually quit both games. It was however cool to see a lot of the Aussies play it, including names like Iaguz, Azure and Seither. Kelazhur also played AoE 4 quite a bit, but I think that was during the break between two EPT Seasons. As soon as SC2 got more "serious" again, he eventually stayed with us. SC2 players who are still very invested into AoE 4 are VortiX and LucifroN, but of course they are retired from SC2 for quite a while. they even had a career in Heroes in the meantime As for AoE 4 vs. AoE 2: AoE 4 apparently attracted some of the AoE 1 and 3 players over, but the bulk of AoE 2 players stayed. Sure, Viper, Hera and co. all played AoE 4 int he beginning, but eventually, they all made the decision to only compete in one game - AoE 2. I think some of the russians still play both games though. So I don't think more RTS that aren't really working would hurt SC2 that match. On their release-weeks for sure, ladder will probably be slower, pros will stream the new games a lot etc. But if there isn't enough hype, viewership and prizemoney, I will assume that no SC2 pro will actually stay. There is of course the possibility that a few of the lower-tier players would go if the money is good enough that they can earn more of it with the new game instead of being in the Top 50+ of SC2, but that would be a minority. | ||
NoobSkills
United States1551 Posts
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lestye
United States4111 Posts
And with Blizzard not supporting SC2, I think that people want. New shiny game for new, young people to jump onto, and older fans who want something fresh. | ||
Gescom
Canada3263 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1551 Posts
On July 01 2024 13:07 lestye wrote: I mean, probably. I think people go into SC2 because of its modern take on the RTS genre with new controls, netcode, presentation and support. And with Blizzard not supporting SC2, I think that people want. New shiny game for new, young people to jump onto, and older fans who want something fresh. netcode? Sc2? You mean the product that is inferior to the previous title's private servers made near 2 decades ago? Controls - sure Presentation - pretty graphics, but poorly optimzed? Support - Lol? | ||
Harris1st
Germany6320 Posts
Ragnarok already said GSL is coming to an end with a high probability. If price money around the globe takes another cut, who knows | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland21240 Posts
On July 01 2024 13:31 NoobSkills wrote: netcode? Sc2? You mean the product that is inferior to the previous title's private servers made near 2 decades ago? Controls - sure Presentation - pretty graphics, but poorly optimzed? Support - Lol? Is SC2 poorly optimised? I first started playing it on my iMac that was a couple of years old when WoL came out, one of the few vaguely contemporary games I got decent performance out of. As was generally the case with Blizz games and our family’s various Macs over the years. There’s perhaps some well-known issues that the wider community have had over the years that I’m unaware of and perhaps it does have some issues, but they’d be new to me. Whether their support was always the right support, I mean sure that’s a reasonable discussion. But the core game got plenty of love over a pretty long period, plus ofc the pro scene so I dunno if I’d totally laugh off that element | ||
Nebuchad
Switzerland11386 Posts
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lestye
United States4111 Posts
On July 01 2024 13:31 NoobSkills wrote: netcode? Sc2? You mean the product that is inferior to the previous title's private servers made near 2 decades ago? Controls - sure Presentation - pretty graphics, but poorly optimzed? Support - Lol? Yeah netcode. Battle.net's netcode was pretty awful....hence why people went onto private servers. I don't think SC2 was "poorly optimized". I'd love to see if you have a review from 2010-2012 that remarked on "poorly optimized". And yeah, support. Blizzard wasn't really putting out much content or patches with Starcraft or WC3 on or around 2010. They put millions of dollars into prize money into SC's pro scene, whereas before 2010, Blizzard might put up like maybe 20-40k figures for a showmatch in a given year. | ||
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