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serralbest
39 Posts
Update (May 1): $1m prize pool, format, and dates for SC2 @ Esports World Cup officially announced Esports World Cup/2024
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
Dude, i thought this was a spam bot thread Holy crap. So first place might win $300k and 2nd place $150k? This is amazing. A bit too sad that only 18 players will taste some of that money though. Even 24 would be a nicer way to spread it around. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4532 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3489 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8246 Posts
On April 19 2024 01:43 Nakajin wrote: Do we have confirmation in that prize pool? I can't find anything about that outside of the LP page. It's pretty much confirmed. Overall there's going to be $60m handed out. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On April 19 2024 01:46 geokilla wrote: It's pretty much confirmed. Overall there's going to be $60m handed out. From what I understand, it's ''only'' 30 M$ for the prize money of tournaments (20 tournaments) with the rest being club bonus (20 M$), MVP performance and qualifiers. | ||
Waxangel
United States33592 Posts
On April 19 2024 01:43 Nakajin wrote: Do we have confirmation in that prize pool? I can't find anything about that outside of the LP page. The deepest the Liquipedia Discord can trace it back is to this German article and a deleted tweet  https://www.gamesunit.de/artikel/esports-world-cup-mit-rekord-preisgeld-von-mehr-als-60-millionen-us-dollar-bestaetigt-196509.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLS-mPQWcAAFjkP.jpg | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4248 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On April 19 2024 02:07 Waxangel wrote: The deepest the Liquipedia Discord can trace it back is to this German article and a deleted tweet https://www.gamesunit.de/artikel/esports-world-cup-mit-rekord-preisgeld-von-mehr-als-60-millionen-us-dollar-bestaetigt-196509.html https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLS-mPQWcAAFjkP.jpg God damn. | ||
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
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Durnuu
13322 Posts
On April 19 2024 06:29 WombaT wrote: Yay sportswashing! And more money for the top dogs who already have hundreds of thousands and none for the poor bastards below! | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
On April 19 2024 06:32 Durnuu wrote: And more money for the top dogs who already have hundreds of thousands and none for the poor bastards below! Also this. There’s nothing that really goes towards sustaining the scene in the medium/long term from going so top heavy with this fundage injection | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1281 Posts
On April 19 2024 05:38 swarminfestor wrote: Can Rogue qualify to the EWC 2024 through Code S? No, but he can attend ESL Dallas through the Open Qualifier and try for a slot there. GSL itself does not award any slots for EWC (except through the EPT Korea Points) | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
On April 19 2024 06:43 WombaT wrote: Also this. There’s nothing that really goes towards sustaining the scene in the medium/long term from going so top heavy with this fundage injection Top earners COULD put on some self-funded tournies for the b-teamers. Johnny Appleseed the shit out of some ESPORTS money. Would never happen tho xD | ||
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
These numbers seem to match the ones posted by Waxangel, so the $1,000,000 SC2 prize pool is very likely correct. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On April 19 2024 06:29 WombaT wrote: Yay sportswashing! Well at least the cheers of the crowds will drown out the human rights crimes! lol, jk, it will be an empty arena. | ||
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jy_9876543210
265 Posts
"Summer 2024" Well, I guess he won't be able to attend... | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1281 Posts
On April 19 2024 09:07 jy_9876543210 wrote: Serral is still listed? "Summer 2024" Well, I guess he won't be able to attend... Serral plans on attending ESL Spring and EWC and he sounded rather confident that he could. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
On April 19 2024 09:18 Pandain wrote: What does it even mean that the qualifiers will have $750K? My understanding is there are qualifiers at the very end after the first fourteen players are already decided. Are they really gonna put 750000 into that last qualifier that decides the last two players after presumably the top 14 performing players were already decided? Oh, good point... hmm... Maybe everyone who qualified (gets to the first round of the tournament) gets some money too? That IS a ton of money for qualifiers, holy. The main tourny is only $1 million lol Hmm wait is it 750k? It's $60 million for all the games, $760k for all the qualifiers. So for SC2 maybe it'd end up being just around $13k for qualifiers? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On April 19 2024 10:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Oh, good point... hmm... Maybe everyone who qualified (gets to the first round of the tournament) gets some money too? That IS a ton of money for qualifiers, holy. The main tourny is only $1 million lol Hmm wait is it 750k? It's $60 million for all the games, $760k for all the qualifiers. So for SC2 maybe it'd end up being just around $13k for qualifiers? The leaked image, I believe in the thread above, said for qualifier 500k and then 250k below that, specifically for SC2 The image looked real enough but I don’t know how to make sense of it | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
On April 19 2024 10:52 Pandain wrote: The leaked image, I believe in the thread above, said for qualifier 500k and then 250k below that, specifically for SC2 The image looked real enough but I don’t know how to make sense of it Oh holy crap you're right. That's weird. Maybe it was taken down to be edited further. It wouldn't seem to make sense with the main tourny actually being $1 million... Even other games' qualifiers don't give as much. Maybe it was supposed to be $50k and $25k for qualifiers. Maybe $50k awarded to those who made it (for example, those who had enough EPT points get a prize for making it in), and $25k for open qualifiers. Cool that SC2 has a bigger pool than Rocket League this year though! I think it was smaller last year and Rocket League was more around $1 mil. | ||
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tigera6
3483 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
On April 19 2024 11:47 tigera6 wrote: Well, to be a smart-ass, they already have the Qualifier for ESW, which are the ESL Global Final and IEM, so the prize pool for the "qualifier" are 75k x 3 + 500k = 735k. Wait, there's a ESL Global Final? Or you just mean IEM Kato which had $500k? And where is the other $75k * 3 coming from, sorry i don't really understand how the circuit works lol | ||
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tigera6
3483 Posts
On April 19 2024 13:36 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Wait, there's a ESL Global Final? Or you just mean IEM Kato which had $500k? And where is the other $75k * 3 coming from, sorry i don't really understand how the circuit works lol I mean the ESL Seasonal tournament Main Event (Fall/Winter/Spring), winner of Fall and Winter (Serral and Clem) are qualified into EWC, and top 4 in Spring will be qualified as well. So they do serve as "qualifier" in a sense. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7150 Posts
On April 19 2024 08:27 Chris_Havoc wrote: I don't know if this is 100% accurate, but here's the official Prize pool breakdown for each game: https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=dota&no=46164&page=1 These numbers seem to match the ones posted by Waxangel, so the $1,000,000 SC2 prize pool is very likely correct. There will be a "Mobile Legends Women" tournament with 500k on the line in Saudi Arabia. Now that is interesting. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7150 Posts
On April 19 2024 10:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Oh, good point... hmm... Maybe everyone who qualified (gets to the first round of the tournament) gets some money too? That IS a ton of money for qualifiers, holy. The main tourny is only $1 million lol Hmm wait is it 750k? It's $60 million for all the games, $760k for all the qualifiers. So for SC2 maybe it'd end up being just around $13k for qualifiers? You got some numbers turned around IMO. 7,5 million are for qualifiers. 5 of those for DotA alone. SC2 has 750k which probably is counting everything ESL does since ESL works for Saudi | ||
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Comedy
469 Posts
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
On April 19 2024 09:07 jy_9876543210 wrote: Serral is still listed? "Summer 2024" Well, I guess he won't be able to attend... Serral's military service is in the athlete corps which allow them to have days dedicated to travel for competition reasons, he has likely reserved them for EPT Dallas and EWC, hence he wasn't playing in anything else in recent times, like StarsWar qualifiers. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
On April 19 2024 13:52 tigera6 wrote: I mean the ESL Seasonal tournament Main Event (Fall/Winter/Spring), winner of Fall and Winter (Serral and Clem) are qualified into EWC, and top 4 in Spring will be qualified as well. So they do serve as "qualifier" in a sense. On April 19 2024 18:49 Harris1st wrote: You got some numbers turned around IMO. 7,5 million are for qualifiers. 5 of those for DotA alone. SC2 has 750k which probably is counting everything ESL does since ESL works for Saudi Ooh got it, thanks guys. Yeah it's fair to count those as qualifiers since this is the global finals. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
On April 19 2024 20:09 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Ooh got it, thanks guys. Yeah it's fair to count those as qualifiers since this is the global finals. Yeah given some of those tournies gave direct tickets to this event I suppose they very much are qualifiers too, although it feels a bit weird for big Premier tournies to be classed as such | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1281 Posts
On April 19 2024 19:06 Comedy wrote: look at all these garbage titles, esport used to be an actual game that was sort of like a sport on your pc. now we're just playing kids games for millions of dollars Even the World Cyber Games used to have mobile and "kid games". And the EWC still covers basically the full lineup except for 1v1 Shooters, but considering that Quake is the only one left and is the most closed Esports ever...yeah, no. | ||
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Xamo
Spain886 Posts
This would be a good first offline tournament to attend, MaxPax. We need another Protoss to cheer for, besides Astrea. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
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shikadisoda
19 Posts
On April 19 2024 19:06 Comedy wrote: look at all these garbage titles, esport used to be an actual game that was sort of like a sport on your pc. now we're just playing kids games for millions of dollars yeah e sports used to be something the world respected wait | ||
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Crocolisk Dundee
870 Posts
On April 19 2024 06:32 Durnuu wrote: And more money for the top dogs who already have hundreds of thousands and none for the poor bastards below! Yeah. I will give this event a pass. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
We could use a few more % just for those in the top #15-30 range to help sustain the scene's size But i think they'll give a pretty nice amount to the 18 who qualify so that's not bad | ||
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Waxangel
United States33592 Posts
https://twitter.com/ESWCgg/status/1785670511831474415 https://twitter.com/ESWCgg/status/1785678060463051083 https://twitter.com/ESWCgg/status/1785685619533857099 | ||
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serralbest
39 Posts
On May 01 2024 23:32 Waxangel wrote: officially confirmed https://twitter.com/ESWCgg/status/1785670511831474415 where？ | ||
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serralbest
39 Posts
wow i see crazy | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1281 Posts
...though I don't get the 15-player Knockout Stage. Can't imagine the whole thing would collaps if they opened up one more Open Qualifier slot to make it an even 16... | ||
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tigera6
3483 Posts
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IIEclipseII
Germany157 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19333 Posts
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Telephone
United States147 Posts
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
On May 02 2024 01:53 BisuDagger wrote: I'm hearing murmurs that sOs is un-retiring for this. Only if EWC decides to pull an IEM | ||
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JJH777
United States4416 Posts
The format sounds pretty cool though. Nice to have something different and that sounds like it will have a lot of matches. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33592 Posts
I think it would be a terrible idea, but this is also the 10 year anniversary of Katowice 2014  | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17729 Posts
On May 02 2024 05:27 Waxangel wrote: I wonder if the prize distribution % is going to be more top-heavy than usual to try and hype things up... I think it would be a terrible idea, but this is also the 10 year anniversary of Katowice 2014 $1mil 1st place, winner takes all | ||
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ZeroByte13
795 Posts
On May 02 2024 03:23 JJH777 wrote: If they are on the same day the best defensive/reactive race/player will have a really big advantage.With semis being bo7 and finals being bo9 I hope those matches are on separate days. Will produce better gameplay that way. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13994 Posts
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dysenterymd
1250 Posts
Otherwise the format seems to be good for the tournament favorites. | ||
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zalem95
Peru186 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
Bost of 9 is truly a lot... specially if it turns out to be an stomp. Am I wrong in thinking Best of 9 really favors zergs? | ||
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Waxangel
United States33592 Posts
On May 02 2024 09:18 [Phantom] wrote: I woudln't worry about the prize pool being too top heavy, as I don't doubt for a second players will just agree to split the price pool amongst themselves like they have admitted to in the past. Bost of 9 is truly a lot... specially if it turns out to be an stomp. Am I wrong in thinking Best of 9 really favors zergs? it also infamously didn't happen in the worst split tournament of all; the $100k winner-take-all Katowice. You can't be so sure that a split WILL happen—you can only say it MIGHT happen. | ||
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lokol4890
114 Posts
On May 02 2024 09:18 [Phantom] wrote: I woudln't worry about the prize pool being too top heavy, as I don't doubt for a second players will just agree to split the price pool amongst themselves like they have admitted to in the past. Bost of 9 is truly a lot... specially if it turns out to be an stomp. Am I wrong in thinking Best of 9 really favors zergs? Definitely doesn't favor the current iteration of protoss. Probably doesn't favor any terran besides I guess clem since he can win with pure mechanics and doesn't have any injuries. Long story short, yeah probably favors zerg | ||
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frustratedsc2user
10 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4248 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
Idk about Bo9 though. Sounds like too many games, too much fatigue, very little chance of a close series. Bo7 is already plenty. I get that it's a huge huge prize pool, but Bo7 is already enough games to try your best on. Playing like 8-9 games is just a really long time. If it's on separate days though then it'll be more OK. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
On May 03 2024 05:09 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: This is awesome, sad that Creator most definitely won't make it this time... Idk about Bo9 though. Sounds like too many games, too much fatigue, very little chance of a close series. Bo7 is already plenty. I get that it's a huge huge prize pool, but Bo7 is already enough games to try your best on. Playing like 8-9 games is just a really long time. If it's on separate days though then it'll be more OK. I feel my main issue is I can’t think of a single map pool that doesn’t have a few terribly balanced maps that are basically default vetos, Even in Bo7 they sometimes creep in as it is | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
On May 03 2024 06:35 WombaT wrote: I feel my main issue is I can’t think of a single map pool that doesn’t have a few terribly balanced maps that are basically default vetos, Even in Bo7 they sometimes creep in as it is Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently | ||
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Drahkn
196 Posts
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Sentikoret
20 Posts
Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently Zergs on this patch were 0 out of top 4 last GSL, 0 in the entirety of Asia playoffs, currently 1/6 in EU and AM playoffs. What exactly should be balanced out? | ||
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Tommy131313
Germany157 Posts
On May 04 2024 04:56 Sentikoret wrote: Zergs on this patch were 0 out of top 4 last GSL, 0 in the entirety of Asia playoffs, currently 1/6 in EU and AM playoffs. What exactly should be balanced out? Exactly my thoughts... Neither BO9, nor actual mappool or balance patch is favouring Zerg tbh if we look at the last results. IIrc there are 2 Zerg left in the ESL Regional Spring Masters, 1 is in the global Spring Masters Event from last GSL season. There's a decent chance that Serral and Dark will be the only Zerg to qualify for EWC, maybe Solar will slip in via EPT Korea Standings, but I doubt Reynor will make it, expecially since he's splitting his engagement (and points) between Korea and EU Standings. So unless Serral can stay in top form despite his military duty, I don't see any Zerg with high chances for making a top four run at the EWC. | ||
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lokol4890
114 Posts
On May 04 2024 10:59 Tommy131313 wrote: Exactly my thoughts... Neither BO9, nor actual mappool or balance patch is favouring Zerg tbh if we look at the last results. IIrc there are 2 Zerg left in the ESL Regional Spring Masters, 1 is in the global Spring Masters Event from last GSL season. There's a decent chance that Serral and Dark will be the only Zerg to qualify for EWC, maybe Solar will slip in via EPT Korea Standings, but I doubt Reynor will make it, expecially since he's splitting his engagement (and points) between Korea and EU Standings. So unless Serral can stay in top form despite his military duty, I don't see any Zerg with high chances for making a top four run at the EWC. How would reynor splitting engagement make a difference? There are open sign ups for esl spring. Almost guaranteed he makes it in. And if he gets top 4 there, he makes ewc. For all the talk about ewc, there are currently only 5 players qualified. | ||
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tigera6
3483 Posts
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JJH777
United States4416 Posts
On May 04 2024 10:59 Tommy131313 wrote: Exactly my thoughts... Neither BO9, nor actual mappool or balance patch is favouring Zerg tbh if we look at the last results. IIrc there are 2 Zerg left in the ESL Regional Spring Masters, 1 is in the global Spring Masters Event from last GSL season. There's a decent chance that Serral and Dark will be the only Zerg to qualify for EWC, maybe Solar will slip in via EPT Korea Standings, but I doubt Reynor will make it, expecially since he's splitting his engagement (and points) between Korea and EU Standings. So unless Serral can stay in top form despite his military duty, I don't see any Zerg with high chances for making a top four run at the EWC. What the heck is this lol. Solar and Reynor are 100% guaranteed to be there. You realize that besides the spots from Dallas and the literally only 2 open qualifier spots, the global and regional standings are the final deciders right? Even Ragnarok is nearly guaranteed making it considering that the top 4 of Dallas will most likely be at least 3 players who are already qualified and then those extra slots will just get added to the global standings. I think the only way Ragnarok doesn't go is if someone below him passes him in points (which seems unlikely as he's 200 points ahead of the person below him and that person is Bunny who didn't qualify for GSL) or if someone who is currently below him takes a top 4 at Dallas. That's pretty unlikely. I guess I could see someone like Showtime, Stats, DRG, or creator do that with some type of miracle run but seems very unlikely. If the top 4 of Dallas are all players who are currently above him then he's guaranteed to make it as long as Maxpax forfeits his slot as expected. | ||
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JJH777
United States4416 Posts
It's not even an opinion thing it's just objectively wrong (and balance whining for the race that's won $3mil more than the other 2) to say Reynor won't qualify. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4248 Posts
well.. could have been better and more gruelling, but also could have been much worse (i've seen much worse). it's.. decent. that's my opinion. | ||
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zelevin
United States316 Posts
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dysenterymd
1250 Posts
Also the world cup is far enough away that if 1-2 months from now Zerg is still struggling there will probably be minor alterations to the map pool, and all the best Zerg (Serral, Reynor, Solar, Dark, Rag) will already have qualified anyways. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
For Creator, I'm very sad he probably won't make it. But maybe he can make Top 6-8 at Dallas and then qualify that way. Oh wait, if Creator can get 5th-6th in GSL, he could get 300 EPT Korea points and be about just 23 under SHIN. So if he does decently at Spring Masters and gets Top 16 again, he could actually make it I guess! 5th-6th sounds hard for GSL but he's in Top 8 already, just needs to win 1 match and not be last in his group. Though he'd need to beat someone like Byun, Solar, or Reynor which won't be easy unless he can bring his A game. If he gets Top 4, then he might be set. It may be hard for him though because there probably won't be many Zergs to face in Ro8. It's nice that these points are so important, really helps keep the stakes for tournies like GSL. I guess that's a big part of why Creator was so relieved he made it out, not for the money but for the EPT points. Qualifying for EWC would be such a huge amount of money. I really want him to make it! | ||
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Waxangel
United States33592 Posts
https://twitter.com/EWC_EN/status/1801298520684601503 | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden855 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
I was not entertaining much hopes the prize pool would be split in a more reasonable way but still it's a shame. At least it's gonna create plenty of drama! | ||
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Ciaus237
South Africa288 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1281 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33592 Posts
![[image loading]](/staff/Waxangel/EPT/ewckatochart.png) | ||
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rwala
338 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1281 Posts
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
This might be the highest prize pool in SC2, but I still find it hard to care much about. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7150 Posts
On June 14 2024 05:10 Balnazza wrote: Curious how it will work with the points though. Do all players ranked 8th to 11th get the 20 points for 8th place? In that case SC2 could actually bring quite the insane value for the EWC race. Are there any details on how this EWC clan race thing actually works? | ||
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tigera6
3483 Posts
On June 14 2024 18:17 Harris1st wrote: Are there any details on how this EWC clan race thing actually works? Top 8 in each event collect points to their teams, which team has the most collected points AND win at least 1 event will be crowned the champion. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
The other thing I'm confused by though, is why the prizes are split between placements like that. It's not standard at all. For example, why does 3rd and 4th make the same, 6th and 7th make the same, but 5th is different? For Double Elim, 3rd and 4th make the same unless there's a 3rd place match later. And then 5th and 6th make the same. I guess I haven't seen how the bracket will actually work. The jump from 6th-7th to 3rd-4th being almost triple the amount is pretty crazy, and 4th making almost double that of 5th... But again, i guess anyone making it can be happy enough, that $15k is enough to live off for a year (assuming frugal living costs, which I'm sure most programers have) | ||
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bela.mervado
Hungary408 Posts
so in ~eu you can * ~0.5 the prize money. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1281 Posts
On June 14 2024 18:17 Harris1st wrote: Are there any details on how this EWC clan race thing actually works? There is an Overview page for EWC on Liquipedia Commons Here. Though I still don't know how the 8-11th place in SC2 will work with that. On June 14 2024 20:25 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: $15k just to show up is pretty nice at the least, though yes I don't like how top heavy the prize pool is. 1st place making 2x that of 2nd place is already totally fine. The other thing I'm confused by though, is why the prizes are split between placements like that. It's not standard at all. For example, why does 3rd and 4th make the same, 6th and 7th make the same, but 5th is different? For Double Elim, 3rd and 4th make the same unless there's a 3rd place match later. And then 5th and 6th make the same. I guess I haven't seen how the bracket will actually work. The jump from 6th-7th to 3rd-4th being almost triple the amount is pretty crazy, and 4th making almost double that of 5th... But again, i guess anyone making it can be happy enough, that $15k is enough to live off for a year (assuming frugal living costs, which I'm sure most programers have) You can look up the bracket here for SC2. Basically, from "Phase 1" three players advance to the Final 4 and then there is another Single Elimination Bracket for the remaining players. The finals of that bracket then basically determine the last slot for the Final 4 and the loser ofc will be 5th place. That's why the 5th place is singled out in prizemoney | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
On June 15 2024 00:34 Balnazza wrote: There is an Overview page for EWC on Liquipedia Commons Here. Though I still don't know how the 8-11th place in SC2 will work with that. You can look up the bracket here for SC2. Basically, from "Phase 1" three players advance to the Final 4 and then there is another Single Elimination Bracket for the remaining players. The finals of that bracket then basically determine the last slot for the Final 4 and the loser ofc will be 5th place. That's why the 5th place is singled out in prizemoney Ah gotcha, so there's emphasis on making it to the top 4 | ||
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UnLarva
458 Posts
On April 19 2024 09:07 jy_9876543210 wrote: Serral is still listed? "Summer 2024" Well, I guess he won't be able to attend... He will. Unless there are some bad military conduct, which is very ha(aaaaaaaaaaa)rd to believe. He represents Finland... and his unit. It will be a military command. Expect no easy path to his competitors. It's about as far as Joona with the mission will ever go... | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7150 Posts
On June 15 2024 00:34 Balnazza wrote: There is an Overview page for EWC on Liquipedia Commons Here. Though I still don't know how the 8-11th place in SC2 will work with that. prizemoney Thanks! Haven't seen that | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7150 Posts
On June 17 2024 19:04 InfCereal wrote: Crazy they're setting aside 400k just for serral Should be 500k then so he can get his 2 mil full | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1451 Posts
BBC article on the controversy surrounding the ESWC being hosted in Saudi Arabia, with some quotes from Team Liquid: Steve Arhancet told BBC Newsbeat that weighing up whether to take part had been "quite the quandary and challenge for us". "Team Liquid is rooted in values of inclusivity," he said. "So how do we continue operating with our values in a region of the world that conflicts so strongly, and with pretty egregious human rights violations?" Steve said the team eventually decided it was important to turn up and use the contest as a platform to show their support for LGBT people. As a gay man himself, Steve said it's personally important to him and plenty of other gamers. Cool to see eSports on the BBC at all, to be honest. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26614 Posts
On July 04 2024 19:36 MJG wrote: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq5x85zd71eo BBC article on the controversy surrounding the ESWC being hosted in Saudi Arabia, with some quotes from Team Liquid: Cool to see eSports on the BBC at all, to be honest. As someone who doesn’t follow eSports outside of SC2 it’s interesting that in the article they mention boycotts. I’ve zero idea how numerous or notable those are based on the article and my prior knowledge mind. Which is in stark contrast to this scene where I don’t think anyone has even come out publicly to be mildly critical about the situation. If anything I’d rather they just banned LGBTQ folks, the idea that foreigners can be tolerated for a short period for a bit of reputation laundering while their native populace are subject to sometimes brutal sanction is to me more gross if anything. At least the former is less insulting to folks’ intelligence. Whose minds are we changing here and why do we even need to? We need to kowtow to Saudi Arabian sensibilities in activities whose audience, participants and general structure overwhelmingly reside elsewhere? This isn’t some eSports powerhouse or even some potential gigantic emergent market, they’re throwing money at it in a PR exercise. Be OK with that or not, it is what it is. Football sure as fuck didn’t need Qatar to be popular, or subsequently (quel surprise) Saudi Arabia. | ||
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