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On February 03 2024 07:15 luxon wrote:I'm going to mouth off this once, because this annoys me probably more than it should, and it was a popular sentiment last time around. If youre still watching sc2 in 2024 you should be thanking on bended knee that some nephew of some saudi prince watches sc2. literally every financial or tech company can trace its funding back to saudi sovereign wealth fund, and you guys are ok with that, but when it comes to a grassroots scene like sc2 "ohhh no thats where i draw the line. I'm ok with 8 year olds making my iphone and 10 year olds mining rare earth minerals for my macbook but noo, a donation to the SC2 prize pool is where I draw the line." since you're such great people and not just virtue signalers, why dont i help you out - post your employer and I'll help you trace their funding back to saudi money, and you can update us when you quit your job 
Okay I work for Region Stockholm as a physiotherapist on a hospital, go ahead and trace.
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Yay Starcraft! I hope Serral can attend and be in somewhat of a shape with his pending military service.
This is a year of Starcraft that nobody really could have expected: IEM, ESL Masters, GSLs and now an even bigger tournament.
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Gamers8 was 45 million in comparison
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The prizepool for this is actually insane and the fact that the Top 16 teams will get prizemoney really explains why everyone and their mother hires SC2 players right now: Even some points here and there can probably amount to a pretty hefty extra prize.
I will admit: I would love to boycot this or just watch my favorites and be done with it, but the entire concept is so huge and amazing that I will probably give in and watch as much as times allows for the entire competition. Maybe they find another few thousand bucks somewhere to give out for WC3 and AoE 2 aswell...please? :3
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I disavow any tournament hosted in places that aren't safe for all competitors
edit: And fans
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Yeah 20 million club money is insane! Across 16 teams! Meaning the top teams will get 2-5 millions $ extra. Gotta be worth to make a partnership with Basilisk
I will definitely watch CS2 and SC2 and maybe some Rocket League
They have said they will announce some more and smaller games so don't give up hope
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On April 18 2024 21:14 Cyro wrote:
I disavow any tournament hosted in places that aren't safe for all competitors
I do understand the oil money and human rights take but why wouldn't the competitors be safe?
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IDF is not committing genocide in Palestine, not to say Israel isn't doing anything wrong, Ukraine and Palestine are not remotely comparable.
We should stick discussions to StarCraft
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Guessed price money estimates from gaming websites:
Dota2 (5 Mio. $)
Honor of Kings
PUBG Mobile
Mobile Legends (each 3 Mio. $).
Rainbow Six Siege
APEX Legends
PUBG Battlegrounds (each 2 Mio. $)
Street Fighter 6
Tekken 8
StarCraft 2
Overwatch 2
EA Sports FC 24
Counter-Strike 2
League of Legends (each 1 Mio. $)
They really go for the young generations with all these worthless mobile games.... 
Easier to manipulate for sportswashing probably
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HoK is the most popular mobile MOBA in the world from Tencent, Mobile Legends is huge in South America and South East Asia, these inclusions don't surprise me.
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On April 18 2024 21:14 Cyro wrote:
I disavow any tournament hosted in places that aren't safe for all competitors
Saudi Arabia is pretty good at sportswashing, they will make sure that it is save for every competitor. For fans...probably not as much.
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United Kingdom20345 Posts
On April 18 2024 21:36 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2024 21:14 Cyro wrote:
I disavow any tournament hosted in places that aren't safe for all competitors I do understand the oil money and human rights take but why wouldn't the competitors be safe?
It's in Saudi Arabia. The government routinely tortures and kills people (including tourists) for existing while being LGBT+ among other things.
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On April 18 2024 21:42 Harris1st wrote:Guessed price money estimates from gaming websites: Dota2 (5 Mio. $) Honor of Kings PUBG Mobile Mobile Legends (each 3 Mio. $). Rainbow Six Siege APEX Legends PUBG Battlegrounds (each 2 Mio. $) Street Fighter 6 Tekken 8 StarCraft 2 Overwatch 2 EA Sports FC 24 Counter-Strike 2 League of Legends (each 1 Mio. $) They really go for the young generations with all these worthless mobile games.... Easier to manipulate for sportswashing probably
Or you know, they're just hella popular. Just because you are in those circles doesn't mean they don't have massive (adult) audiences.
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On April 18 2024 21:42 Harris1st wrote:Guessed price money estimates from gaming websites: Dota2 (5 Mio. $) Honor of Kings PUBG Mobile Mobile Legends (each 3 Mio. $). Rainbow Six Siege APEX Legends PUBG Battlegrounds (each 2 Mio. $) Street Fighter 6 Tekken 8 StarCraft 2 Overwatch 2 EA Sports FC 24 Counter-Strike 2 League of Legends (each 1 Mio. $) They really go for the young generations with all these worthless mobile games.... Easier to manipulate for sportswashing probably
Why would LoL only be $1M? Isn't it still the biggest esport in the world?
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On April 18 2024 22:35 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2024 21:42 Harris1st wrote:Guessed price money estimates from gaming websites: Dota2 (5 Mio. $) Honor of Kings PUBG Mobile Mobile Legends (each 3 Mio. $). Rainbow Six Siege APEX Legends PUBG Battlegrounds (each 2 Mio. $) Street Fighter 6 Tekken 8 StarCraft 2 Overwatch 2 EA Sports FC 24 Counter-Strike 2 League of Legends (each 1 Mio. $) They really go for the young generations with all these worthless mobile games.... Easier to manipulate for sportswashing probably Or you know, they're just hella popular. Just because you are in those circles doesn't mean they don't have massive (adult) audiences.
Haha yeah I'm just annoyed. They probably have a way bigger playerbase than all PC games.
Like the generation before couldn't cope with "earning money by playing PC games", I cannot cope with "earning money by playing mobile games" :D
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On April 18 2024 22:48 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2024 21:42 Harris1st wrote:Guessed price money estimates from gaming websites: Dota2 (5 Mio. $) Honor of Kings PUBG Mobile Mobile Legends (each 3 Mio. $). Rainbow Six Siege APEX Legends PUBG Battlegrounds (each 2 Mio. $) Street Fighter 6 Tekken 8 StarCraft 2 Overwatch 2 EA Sports FC 24 Counter-Strike 2 League of Legends (each 1 Mio. $) They really go for the young generations with all these worthless mobile games.... Easier to manipulate for sportswashing probably Why would LoL only be $1M? Isn't it still the biggest esport in the world?
These are the numbers I came across. Will have to wait for official numbers to really know. I mean Rainbox Six above Counterstrike and LoL does seem strange
https://www.gameswirtschaft.de/events/esports-world-cup-2024-saudi-arabien-preisgeld/ (Source German)
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On April 18 2024 23:03 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2024 22:48 Pandain wrote:On April 18 2024 21:42 Harris1st wrote:Guessed price money estimates from gaming websites: Dota2 (5 Mio. $) Honor of Kings PUBG Mobile Mobile Legends (each 3 Mio. $). Rainbow Six Siege APEX Legends PUBG Battlegrounds (each 2 Mio. $) Street Fighter 6 Tekken 8 StarCraft 2 Overwatch 2 EA Sports FC 24 Counter-Strike 2 League of Legends (each 1 Mio. $) They really go for the young generations with all these worthless mobile games.... Easier to manipulate for sportswashing probably Why would LoL only be $1M? Isn't it still the biggest esport in the world? These are the numbers I came across. Will have to wait for official numbers to really know. I mean Rainbox Six above Counterstrike and LoL does seem strange https://www.gameswirtschaft.de/events/esports-world-cup-2024-saudi-arabien-preisgeld/ (Source German)
I do remember some tweet or source saying the SC2 prize pool will be $1 million (advertised as the biggest prize pool for SC2 so far) so that's probably accurate.
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On April 18 2024 22:48 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2024 21:42 Harris1st wrote:Guessed price money estimates from gaming websites: Dota2 (5 Mio. $) Honor of Kings PUBG Mobile Mobile Legends (each 3 Mio. $). Rainbow Six Siege APEX Legends PUBG Battlegrounds (each 2 Mio. $) Street Fighter 6 Tekken 8 StarCraft 2 Overwatch 2 EA Sports FC 24 Counter-Strike 2 League of Legends (each 1 Mio. $) They really go for the young generations with all these worthless mobile games.... Easier to manipulate for sportswashing probably Why would LoL only be $1M? Isn't it still the biggest esport in the world?
League of Legends will mostly be a "showmatch tournament" in some capacity. Riot actually needed a fair amount of time until they even allowed League-participation in the EWC. Of course they don't want a tournament that could potentially offer more money than MSI or Worlds.
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On April 18 2024 22:48 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2024 21:42 Harris1st wrote:Guessed price money estimates from gaming websites: Dota2 (5 Mio. $) Honor of Kings PUBG Mobile Mobile Legends (each 3 Mio. $). Rainbow Six Siege APEX Legends PUBG Battlegrounds (each 2 Mio. $) Street Fighter 6 Tekken 8 StarCraft 2 Overwatch 2 EA Sports FC 24 Counter-Strike 2 League of Legends (each 1 Mio. $) They really go for the young generations with all these worthless mobile games.... Easier to manipulate for sportswashing probably Why would LoL only be $1M? Isn't it still the biggest esport in the world?
Same question with CS2..
LoL, DotA 2 and Counter-Strike 2 are three most popular e-sport games but only one of them is getting a 5 mil tournament while two of them get smaller prize pools than.. Rainbow Six Siege and.. PUBG Battlegrounds?
Bizarre. Makes zero sense.
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On April 19 2024 02:32 M3t4PhYzX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2024 22:48 Pandain wrote:On April 18 2024 21:42 Harris1st wrote:Guessed price money estimates from gaming websites: Dota2 (5 Mio. $) Honor of Kings PUBG Mobile Mobile Legends (each 3 Mio. $). Rainbow Six Siege APEX Legends PUBG Battlegrounds (each 2 Mio. $) Street Fighter 6 Tekken 8 StarCraft 2 Overwatch 2 EA Sports FC 24 Counter-Strike 2 League of Legends (each 1 Mio. $) They really go for the young generations with all these worthless mobile games.... Easier to manipulate for sportswashing probably Why would LoL only be $1M? Isn't it still the biggest esport in the world? Same question with CS2.. LoL, DotA 2 and Counter-Strike 2 are three most popular e-sport games but only one of them is getting a 5 mil tournament while two of them get smaller prize pools than.. Rainbow Six Siege and.. PUBG Battlegrounds? Bizarre. Makes zero sense.
I think the post immediately above yours is pretty reasonable speculation 
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