EPTStill, it's a bold pick to put the #44 in sc2 earnings in your top 10.
Of course prize money does not always reflect a tournament's worth (Neeb #12 in earnings?! Quite a surprise too!) but this is really a huge gap.
#10: Rain - Greatest Players of All Time - Page 4
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Read the introduction article for information on the methodology behind this article series. Editor's note: In 2015 TL.net's stuchiu tried to answer the most controversial question in all of StarCraft II: Who are the greatest players of all time? No, the series didn't lead to the community reaching a harmonious consensus, but it was a fantastic way to look back on competitive StarCraft II history and celebrate its most accomplished players. Eight years after stuchiu named Mvp the GOAT, Mizenhauer has decided to take a shot at creating an updated list. His approach and viewpoints are entirely different, but it's no less appreciative of StarCraft II history. Who will make the top ten cutoff this time around? | ||
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VladSlymor
80 Posts
Still, it's a bold pick to put the #44 in sc2 earnings in your top 10. Of course prize money does not always reflect a tournament's worth (Neeb #12 in earnings?! Quite a surprise too!) but this is really a huge gap. | ||
nimdil
Poland3764 Posts
On January 21 2024 09:28 Waxangel wrote: I think that's a pretty reasonable concern to have if you only have this first Rain article to go by, and aren't sure what the chosen endpoints will be for each player. For the most part, players get the most flattering "prime" timeframe chosen, which definitely has some problems, but it's reasonably consistent in the overall approach (so if you think it's a bad methodology, at least it's fair). My concern is that argument that Rain was best in 2012-2015 based primarily on his titles in 2012 and 2015 specifically is kind of weird when you consider that Zest accomplished more in 2014-2016 (like I was not fact checking everything but on titles and in my memory at least). Those two periods mostly overlap and Zest's peak is more dense in success (if you know what I mean). I mean I understand what is the thought process behind statement of "best in 2012-2015" is a little bit misleading. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7176 Posts
On January 23 2024 21:27 nimdil wrote: My concern is that argument that Rain was best in 2012-2015 based primarily on his titles in 2012 and 2015 specifically is kind of weird when you consider that Zest accomplished more in 2014-2016 (like I was not fact checking everything but on titles and in my memory at least). Those two periods mostly overlap and Zest's peak is more dense in success (if you know what I mean). I mean I understand what is the thought process behind statement of "best in 2012-2015" is a little bit misleading. Any list such as this one will have to compare players who competed in vastly different eras. In order to mitigate the subjectivity that comes with making statistical 'conversions' between time periods, my starting point was to group players by time-period and compare them against their peers. Here are the four main divisions: 2010 to 2012: Pre-KeSPA/WoL 2013-2015: "Peak" KeSPA/HotS 2016-2017: Early LotV 2018 and later: Post-KeSPA Of course, cross-era comparisons were unavoidable when compiling the final ranking, but this was a better method than trying to directly compare the resumes of, say, Nestea and Reynor. This is from the Intro post. It makes sense to me to not have early lotv to not be in the same category as HotS. | ||
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johnnyh123
124 Posts
Always wondered what would happen if he stayed in SC2 longer. IMO he would likely make it to any top-10 GOAT list. | ||
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yubo56
690 Posts
Sources: http://aligulac.com/periods/, http://aligulac.com/periods/140/ | ||
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