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[Trigger Warning] Former Team GP exposed

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SupremeMaddox
Profile Joined July 2019
Korea (South)32 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-09-03 20:02:47
August 27 2023 18:44 GMT
#1
<Trigger Warning>

This case involves multiple cases for Players and Staff who were mistreated and ransacked.
This is a part of massive scandal that involves multiple divisions established in the name of Team GP.
Currently more and more people are blowing the whistle against the owner, and the truth is keep coming out.

Will be keep updated.


First of all, this news came in recently from Ryung's personal Twitch stream.
Due to Korean contracts within Twitch, the VOD is not generated automatically.
However, some of the Korean Community has archived the initial exposed turmoil from former SC2 division of Team GP.

Further information is keep coming from former members (players and staff) of the team, so this will be updated as the sources accumulates.

At August 26th, (Korean Time), Ryung has exposed Team GP of not paying the salaries for its players.

Ryung has personally shared his damage :

- The Contract between Team GP and Ryung on 2022 Season has included :
1. Flight & Accomodation packages, since he didn't get direct invites.
2. Full Package covered until Dreamhack Atlanta
3. $1800+ monthly salaries

However, the flight packages has changed from direct flight package until Valencia into direct flight package until Madrid.
Ryung was forced to take the train until Valencia, By himself.

He had to forfeit Dreamhack Valencia.

The full package wasn't covered in Atlanta either, so he had to pay himself to compete.
His spend was 3.2 mil KRW (approx $2,700), but his earnings on the tournament was $1,000.

Furthermore, his 6 month worth of salaries, 13.5 mil KRW (approx. $11,000) total wasn't delivered.
He only paid Ryung out only 3 mil KRW worth (approx $2,600), with he paid for installment of several payouts.

This has been prolonged over a year.

According to Ryung this is actually 10% scale worth of the incident.
There are lots of things to be further exposed, as there are lot of unpaid earnings from several tournaments (including WTL) are remaining.

Community Post (Korean)



[Update, Aug 28 2023]

Further Investigations involved with other players, we have now identified multiple misconducts by the owner.


1. Wage Theft

- Almost all players involved in this team rarely got paid on time.

- Unpaid wages varied from 2~6 months worth, and mostly unexplained.

- Many foreign players had given up on getting paid for the remaining ones.


2. Prize Money Theft

- All players of Team GP didn't receive the prize money of WTL 2022 Winter.

- Prize Money on other tournaments also didn't get distributed properly as well.

- Prize Money wasn't paid out not only for their own players, but also their own tournaments.
One of the tournaments launched in the team's name was conducted with a year-long period.
The Group Stage held in April 2022, Playoffs at August, and The Finals at February 28, 2023
Anonymous source has revealed that players involved in this tournament didn't receive any prize money. They are still unpaid.

- Many Semi-pro, Amateur tournaments which were hosted by Team GP wasn't actually supported by the team itself,
But mostly from the staff member's own money who was involved in the domestic amateur scene.


3. Mistreatment

- Some of the players has been told that their performance wasn't enough for their wages.
Especially when in CTC (Chinese Team Championship), which had regulations to include
at least one player from CN region, the owner openly called for replacements while the guy was still playing for the team.

- The owner also told to sell team uniform to their local fans.
Ironically, even though they contributed, they didn't get their own jerseys because they "didn't pay" for it.
The owner launched the new set of merch soon after some of the purchases were made.



Aside all the facts revealed, Ryung has revealed in his stream earlier today (to compete ESL Open Cup KR) that
The owner, TheBar has contacted him the day after his initial stream. According to him TheBar has promised to pay out
minimum portion of what SC2 division has owed as a whole, which Ryung has addressed heavily.

If the payout can't be met until the end of the week, Ryung stated he will expose other misconducts by the owner.



[Update, Sep 02 2023]


Ryung has revealed on his stream yesterday that the amount of money TheBar has promised got paid.
So he decided to give him another chance to repay the whole team and watch over the process.

Ryung also mentioned on the condition of Leenock, the only active player on Team GP and also plays AOE4 now.
According to Leenock he also didn't get paid for 5 months worth of his salary as well.
He'll also monitor the situation, as Ryung told TheBar to pay him as soon as possible.







Currently Besides the SC2 Division, the issues were addressed for other divisions from the period of the past two years :

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StarcraftHistorian
Profile Joined November 2022
United States157 Posts
August 27 2023 18:54 GMT
#2
You hate to see stuff like this. Thank you for exposing this vital info Maddox!
mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 27 2023 19:12 GMT
#3
Starcraft teams and not paying players.
Name a more iconic duo
TKL
Profile Joined January 2013
France33 Posts
August 27 2023 20:37 GMT
#4
When are we doing a community stream to help out Ryung gain back some of what he lost ?
SupremeMaddox
Profile Joined July 2019
Korea (South)32 Posts
August 27 2023 20:44 GMT
#5
On August 28 2023 05:37 TKL wrote:
When are we doing a community stream to help out Ryung gain back some of what he lost ?



Fans did send him some big donos to Ryung during his initial stream.

Besides, he's in great care with his new team ONSYDE now.
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
392 Posts
August 27 2023 20:59 GMT
#6
Ugh.
I've only followed the game for about half its lifetime but that's... maybe the 10th time I've seen that?

Always disgusting.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-27 21:53:44
August 27 2023 21:13 GMT
#7
Am I crazy or didn't the owner of GP (TheBarTV) also ask the community for money for medical expenditures?
(Someone correct me if the two things are not related)
Shameful stuff if that's the case.

Edit.
Yep: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/573190-team-gpkorean-team-news
I actually gave some money to the guy at the time, joke's on me

Also same kind of stuff from 3 years ago: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/560276-team-gp-exposed
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33559 Posts
August 28 2023 02:47 GMT
#8
Comrade Maddox knows that wage theft is indeed triggering
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3465 Posts
August 28 2023 02:50 GMT
#9
This is a damn shame on the guy, I remember team GP was playing very well during WTL 2022 and actually could get fan support through donation/merch. They were fun to watch and got very decent result, and now I know that they were doing all that while being "mis-treated" by the team Owner is just sad.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
August 28 2023 03:49 GMT
#10
On August 28 2023 04:12 mathenalin wrote:
Starcraft teams and not paying players.
Name a more iconic duo

This happens in League of Legends and CS:GO too, the other 2 e-sports I follow. It's not just limited to SC2, though SC2 seems to be the worse offender because we have all these random no name teams.
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States681 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-29 05:51:44
August 28 2023 04:03 GMT
#11
This guy is an idiot, please ignore me.

User was warned for this post.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
CantRemember
Profile Joined July 2023
2 Posts
August 28 2023 09:06 GMT
#12
They need to distribute the prize pool more evenly, there isn't the outside support for the players anymore, all they have is the prize money
zrhgfhtrsdcx
Profile Joined August 2023
1 Post
August 28 2023 09:43 GMT
#13
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JudeauTV
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany262 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-28 12:27:54
August 28 2023 10:12 GMT
#14
On August 28 2023 18:43 zrhgfhtrsdcx wrote:
*mod edit*


Sure, blame the victim of a fraud as "naive" rather than blaming the offender...
People thinking they knew exactly what they want, most of the time have no idea what they can get.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 28 2023 12:10 GMT
#15
this sucks. big time. feel bad for Ryung and whoever else may have been affected.

that being said, is a trigger warning really necessary? when I read the title my mind went to something like sexual abuse real quick.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-28 15:21:05
August 28 2023 13:17 GMT
#16
On August 28 2023 21:10 Schelim wrote:
this sucks. big time. feel bad for Ryung and whoever else may have been affected.

that being said, is a trigger warning really necessary? when I read the title my mind went to something like sexual abuse real quick.


I know it's dumb, but my stupid ass thought Trigger had issued a warning about Team GP.
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enuaj
Profile Joined May 2017
124 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-28 15:21:16
August 28 2023 14:16 GMT
#17
On August 28 2023 22:17 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 21:10 Schelim wrote:
this sucks. big time. feel bad for Ryung and whoever else may have been affected.

that being said, is a trigger warning really necessary? when I read the title my mind went to something like sexual abuse real quick.


I know it's dumb, but my stupid ass thought Trigger had issued a warning about Team GP.


Yeah, me too, especially because I looked at the URL first.
sugarmuffinpuff
Profile Joined October 2014
Canada38 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-28 16:43:23
August 28 2023 14:34 GMT
#18
Why the trigger warning? Players getting stiffed for their salary sucks, but it's hardly something that would send someone into a mental breakdown after reading about it lol.
SupremeMaddox
Profile Joined July 2019
Korea (South)32 Posts
August 28 2023 15:12 GMT
#19
On August 28 2023 23:34 sugarmuffinpuff wrote:
Why the trigger warning? Players getting stiffed for their salary sucks, but it's hardly something that would send someone into a mental breakdown lol.


You should think again.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17263 Posts
August 28 2023 15:25 GMT
#20
On August 28 2023 11:47 Waxangel wrote:
Comrade Maddox knows that wage theft is indeed triggering

biggest crime in NA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_theft#:~:text=In 2017, the Economic Policy,are victims of this crime.

wage theft is common amongst minimum wage employees. its nasty.
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