EPTSerral "Never Felt The Need to Prove Myself in KR" - Page 2
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BonitiilloO
Dominican Republic627 Posts
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
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CicadaSC
United States1986 Posts
On July 19 2023 07:52 BonitiilloO wrote: Serral had advantage with Zerg being op for so long you mean when maru was winning like 4 gsls in a row? 2019? all the way till now? yeah no... certain players transcend balance. Serral, Maru, herO... they are just ~120-150 IQ minimum and are once in a generation types of people. Nothing short of exceptional. | ||
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TossHeroes
281 Posts
Serral already went to Korea won 2 GSL via the hardest path than any of the former GSL winners Goat took a dump on Korean soil and left | ||
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tigera6
3516 Posts
On July 19 2023 07:55 phodacbiet wrote: Good for Serral. The korean scene is struggling already as it is, it wouldn't be fair to farm them for their prize money. Why show up for a month or two for $7,910.46 USD when he can get that in a weekend? More like 16k if you count the donation and patreon support, but yeah, now is too late for that, but he got plenty of chance to do it before this year when the prize pool was much higher. He just think its not worth it for him to spend a month or two oversea and thats all. | ||
digmouse
China6331 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16090 Posts
On July 19 2023 08:30 CicadaSC wrote: you mean when maru was winning like 4 gsls in a row? 2019? all the way till now? yeah no... certain players transcend balance. Serral, Maru, herO... they are just ~120-150 IQ minimum and are once in a generation types of people. Nothing short of exceptional. Yeah you can check Liquipedia  Premier TournamentsZerg has been by far the most winningiest race in thelast 5 years, even if you remove Serral from the equation | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46433 Posts
On July 19 2023 03:00 CicadaSC wrote: nice bait. the greatest player of all time would obviously do well. Equally nice bait lol. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16090 Posts
On July 19 2023 17:38 digmouse wrote: If anything, Serral is probably even more terrifying in the GSL format with the amount of time to prepare for each opponent, considering he is quite possibly one of the most calculated players to ever do it. Possibly, but there's no way to know. TaeJa also was a pretty calculated player but couldn't do it in the preparation format | ||
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Drahkn
199 Posts
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SamuelGreen
Sweden292 Posts
On July 19 2023 03:28 BreakfastBurrito wrote: If Serral's peak lined up with one of the historic peaksof Patchzergs I could believe it, however, we will never know because he "doesn't care" enough to try to compete at the actual top level. All these salty people lining up to defend Serral... when even Serral wont defend Serral, cuz that would mean competing in GSL. Looks like sycophantic comedy to me. Rarely have a read a more salty post... Nice interview! | ||
Poopi
France13018 Posts
On July 19 2023 21:58 Drahkn wrote: Can someone with a lot of money please set up a prize pool for 3 bo7 events where Serral and Maru will battle it out for the greatest player of all time and we can settle this? Don’t you mean Rogue and Maru? Since Rogue is in the military it wouldn’t make much sense. Serral is not in the goat conversation atm even though he might have a case for top 5 | ||
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tigera6
3516 Posts
On July 19 2023 21:58 Drahkn wrote: Can someone with a lot of money please set up a prize pool for 3 bo7 events where Serral and Maru will battle it out for the greatest player of all time and we can settle this? Maru - Serral bo69 with every single map from 2018 till now. If somebody is willing to set up that event, I think a lot of people would contribute. | ||
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sudete
Singapore3054 Posts
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Drahkn
199 Posts
On July 19 2023 22:11 Poopi wrote: Don’t you mean Rogue and Maru? Since Rogue is in the military it wouldn’t make much sense. Serral is not in the goat conversation atm even though he might have a case for top 5 Rogue is inconsistent he isnt the goat in my personal opinion, maru and serral have shown very high consistency. Rogue to me is one who has abused meta's and is not that impressive in my personal opinion | ||
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tigera6
3516 Posts
On July 19 2023 23:33 Drahkn wrote: Rogue is inconsistent he isnt the goat in my personal opinion, maru and serral have shown very high consistency. Rogue to me is one who has abused meta's and is not that impressive in my personal opinion I dont know, 1 Blizzcon, 2 IEM and 4 GSL code S with 2 Super Tournament is not that impressive? I am taking the guy who won first place 3 times over the guy who make Ro4/8 10 times, consistency doesnt mean much unless you win tournaments imo at this level of performance. And I dont see how Rogue abused the Meta and the other Zergs, including Serral, didnt. | ||
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Poopi
France13018 Posts
On July 19 2023 23:48 tigera6 wrote: I dont know, 1 Blizzcon, 2 IEM and 4 GSL code S with 2 Super Tournament is not that impressive? I am taking the guy who won first place 3 times over the guy who make Ro4/8 10 times, consistency doesnt mean much unless you win tournaments imo at this level of performance. And I dont see how Rogue abused the Meta and the other Zergs, including Serral, didnt. The only difference between Rogue and the other zergs regarding "abusing the meta", is that Rogue publicly acknowledged that zerg was super strong at the time, and that motivated him to practice and get results because of that fact. Also, he still beat Maru in the GSL finals later on when zerg was not as strong (using mindgames / good roach builds), and while zerg was strong in 2017 when he won BlizzCon (because of the hydra patch) it was not as good as 2018 zerg and especially 2019 zerg (2019 being imo comparable to 2012 BL/infestor) | ||
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dysenterymd
1250 Posts
Serral could definitely put himself in contention by winning another Katowice/the Gamers8 tournament though, I don't think the scene is thin enough yet for further achievements to be meaningless. A Katowice/Gamers8 win would help cement Maru's claim too. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27377 Posts
Rogue for me, definitely up there. If his Starleague breakthroughs had come a year or two earlier, with the same resume he’d have a much stronger case for GOAThood for me. Not disparaging Rogue but he had a pretty similar resume to $o$, some big WCs and a consistently good player, good Proleague record, but he only started to hoover up Code S titles when the scene was clearly not as cutthroat. Just too many variables IMO to have any kind of definitive GOAT | ||
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Kreuger
Sweden989 Posts
On July 20 2023 00:58 WombaT wrote: What is this Gamers 8 thing I so frequently see mentioned? Rogue for me, definitely up there. If his Starleague breakthroughs had come a year or two earlier, with the same resume he’d have a much stronger case for GOAThood for me. Not disparaging Rogue but he had a pretty similar resume to $o$, some big WCs and a consistently good player, good Proleague record, but he only started to hoover up Code S titles when the scene was clearly not as cutthroat. Just too many variables IMO to have any kind of definitive GOAT Gamers8/2023 | ||
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