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Oliveira unable to attend ESL Summer + ESL response - Page 7
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Update: ESL's Alex007 has given an official response: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/612805-oliveira-unable-to-attend-esl-summer?page=5#93 | ||
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cosmo17
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Evilmj
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On June 14 2023 00:19 Evilmj wrote: No, no, no. ESL didn't lose the Europeans. Asians don't matter. They will not reflect on their own work, they will find any excuse to cover up their mistakes. Guess what would have happened if it had been Clem or Reynor? It doesn't surprise me that ESL is shifting the blame to Chinese customs. As far as I know, China Customs requires efficient work, and will conduct self-inspection if there is no reason to stay for more than two days. Next time, I suggest ESL shift the blame for the accident to the Swedish Embassy. | ||
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Udongein071
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Schelim
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Gina
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vessll1
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fLyiNgDroNe
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On June 15 2023 07:47 desuduesdeus wrote: They held back Oliveira's invite to wait for Coffee to qualify, to send both invites in one package? Only to have that package get stuck in customs? Lmaowtff? Were they trying to save money for stamps?? I don't know if its reading or math that is failing you, but ok, here it is again: "1. Oliveira had locked in his slot on May 21st, Coffee has technically locked in his slot on May 25th but it was still obvious on May 21st that he's gonna get the slot. 2. Our invitational letters have been prepared within two days, then printed and signed within the next day and then sent on May 25th." To break it down: May 21st - Oliveira qualifies May 21st - May 23rd - invitation letters for BOTH players are being prepared and sent for signature May 24th - letters are printed and signed May 25th - letters are sent to the Embassy I know from experience how long these things take, especially with letters that need to be printed on official company's blanks with a wet signature (not everyone in the company is allowed to sign letters). I also know they can be sped up by doing in-advance planning, just like what Alex007 promised to do in the future. | ||
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Elantris
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On June 15 2023 06:52 Alex007 wrote: I would still like to clarify that we need to respect the tournament integrity and we absolutely cannot allow any players to participate in the Summer finals remotely as this decision will harm every other player attending the event and create an unfair competitive envinronment Pathetic. Serral/Reynor would be allowed to play online 100% | ||
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workovertime
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Evilmj
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On June 15 2023 18:59 Elantris wrote: Pathetic. Serral/Reynor would be allowed to play online 100% To be fair, ESL didn't allow Maxpax to do this. | ||
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Elantris
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On June 15 2023 19:16 Evilmj wrote: To be fair, ESL didn't allow Maxpax to do this. Completely different cases because it's not ESL fault that Maxpax can't go to LAN | ||
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Vindicare605
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On June 15 2023 18:59 Elantris wrote: Pathetic. Serral/Reynor would be allowed to play online 100% It's a moot point because neither of them would have required a visa to attend the event so this problem never would have happened in the first place. This problem happened because ESL just didn't consider it a priority to make sure they accomodated the Chinese players appropriately which is a problem they've had many times in the past, but is extra glaring now that their World Champion is Chinese. Which is something they obviously never expected nor prepared for. You would have thought they would have seen this problem coming ahead of time and made sure they were on top of it ahead of time but nah, it wasn't a priority for them. It took them getting massively embarassed about it to actually make sure it doesn't happen again. We'll just have to conveniently forget about the fact that this is going to impact the points standing for the entire year and now the reigning World Champ has an extra obstacle to climb in his title defense because ESL was caught slacking. | ||
BisuDagger
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It’d be really nice if ESL put on an online show match somewhere during the ESL broadcast, for the two players who couldn’t make it. I’d even put it between the semifinals and finals just to highlight the love we have for them. | ||
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tigera6
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On June 15 2023 16:57 MJG wrote: I posted this in the tournament thread, but I should probably ask here as well... Anyone know? The only reason I can think off is that Has end up in higher place than Nice in the Group Stage. | ||
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Chemistry101
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On June 15 2023 18:59 Elantris wrote: Pathetic. Serral/Reynor would be allowed to play online 100% Can you cite an example of something like this EVER having happened, of was your weird theory motivated by nothing but irrational hatred of Europeans? | ||
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Elantris
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On June 15 2023 19:46 Chemistry101 wrote: Can you cite an example of something like this EVER having happened, of was your weird theory motivated by nothing but irrational hatred of Europeans? It seems that it is ESL who irrationally hates Chinese. | ||
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Chemistry101
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On June 15 2023 19:58 Elantris wrote: It seems that it is ESL who irrationally hates Chinese. You have already read what happened from both ESL and the Chinese, so as you know, it was a dumb mistake, primarily the mistake being leaving too little time for a process which can take time. You, on the other hand, are trying to shift anger and blame on completely unrelated parties who don't deserve it. And as I suspected, there are no justifiable reasons behind it, so we are back to the irrational hatred. | ||
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Elantris
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On June 15 2023 20:09 Chemistry101 wrote: You have already read what happened from both ESL and the Chinese, so as you know, it was a dumb mistake, primarily the mistake being leaving too little time for a process which can take time. You, on the other hand, are trying to shift anger and blame on completely unrelated parties who don't deserve it. And as I suspected, there are no justifiable reasons behind it, so we are back to the irrational hatred. ESL fucked up and as a result should allow Oliveira and Coffee to compete online. But they don't want to so ESL deserves all the blame. | ||
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