• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:59
CEST 19:59
KST 02:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall12HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed12Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll4Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed Who will win EWC 2025? Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BW General Discussion Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Starcraft in widescreen
Tourneys
Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Segway man no more. Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 722 users

IEM Katowice 2023 - RO24 Day 1 Results

Forum Index > SC2 General
12 CommentsPost a Reply
TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 08:57:18
February 10 2023 06:22 GMT
#1
IEM Katowice 2023

With the RO36 play-ins concluded on Wednesday, IEM Katowice 2023 commenced with the 24-player group stage featuring all the heavy hitters and elite players. Unlike previous tournaments where entire groups were finished in a day, the 2023 edition of the tournament introduced a new format where all four groups played two rounds of games on the first day (three total days for the group stage). While the schedule has changed, the stakes in the group stage remain the same: The top three players from each group advance to the playoffs, and the #1 player from each group receives a first round bye.

[image loading]

Day one of the RO24 saw the title contenders get off to contrasting starts across the four groups. herO was the only one to kick things off without a hitch, taking 2-0's over DongRaeGu and Solar to tentatively take first place in Group C. Top Zergs Dark (Group A) and Reynor (Group B) won their two initial matches, but couldn't manage perfect map records like herO as they dropped games to feisty underdogs Oliveira (aka TIME) and Astrea.

The big surprises came in the latter two groups, with both reigning Katowice champion Serral (Group C) and G5L winner Maru (Group D) starting off 1-1. While Serral defeated SpeCial as expected, he gave up a shocking 0-2 upset to DongRaeGu. The veteran Korean Zerg didn't need to rely on the volatility of ZvZ to get the job done, outplaying the Finnish Phenom in two
[image loading]
macro games.
As for Maru, he stumbled out the gates by losing to HeroMarine for the first time ever (previously 6-0 against him), with Big Gabe clinically snowballing an early lead in game two and hitting the mark with a 2-Factory Tank push in game three. While Maru recovered by taking down ByuN in the following match, it was certainly an unideal start for the consensus strongest Terran in the tournament.

Thanks to this career-best showing against Maru, HeroMarine concluded the day on top of a chaotic Group D (winning his other match against RO36 survivor Classic). With four players tied below him at 1-1, HeroMarine might even contemplate the possibility of clinching the #1 seed for good in the following days.

VODs on YouTube

Alongside HeroMarine, GuMiho was another surprise Terran who claimed a temporary perch on top of his group. As mentioned above, Reynor dropped a map to Astrea to make his total map score 4-1. On the other hand, GuMiho went perfect on the day, scoring 2-0's against both Astrea and ShoWTimE with a hyper-aggressive and creative TvP style.

The RO24 will continue on Friday, Feb 10 11:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) with rounds 3 and 4 of the groups. herO vs Serral looks to be the feature match, with ESL scheduling it as the final bout of the day.

Games of interest (VODs)


HeroMarine vs Maru and DRG vs Serral: These two games are definitely worth a watch, if only to see why the two heavy favorites are started 1-1.

Reynor vs Astrea: While Astrea's reputation as a clowny zany NA Protoss gets overblown at times, he really brought a spark to IEM Katowice with his outside-the-box build orders in this series.

Dark vs Oliveira, Gresvan: This game was a late-game slog, so perhaps you don't need to watch ALL of it. Mostly, it served as a reminder of Oliveira's sneaky-strong late-game TvZ skill, which gives him a fighting chance against elite Zergs in this macro-friendly map pool.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2102 Posts
February 10 2023 06:47 GMT
#2
Game 1 of Maru vs Byun was so exciting. Tense from beginning to end.
hku
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
169 Posts
February 10 2023 07:51 GMT
#3
Where is the Clem hype now lul?
Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
861 Posts
February 10 2023 08:08 GMT
#4
On February 10 2023 16:51 hku wrote:
Where is the Clem hype now lul?


You would say : why commentators hype so much the game ?

Because it s a part of their job... The hype about a player doesn t depend so much of what you think.
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
February 10 2023 09:11 GMT
#5
There were some great games yesterday. herO played very well and dismantled his opponents. Solar had a high level of play. Most of them brought their A game so even the losers looked good. However, there was one set of games that stood out. The Maru vs Byun match was too intense. Every second from Byun's initial reaper aggression was fighting and positioning in game one. Had game 2 been before game 1 I would have been impressed with how much multitasking both players could handle. They rivalled Clem and GuMiho in intensity, but they kept it up all game.

Speaking of GuMiho, why did the casters say that the most GuMiho game of the day didn't look like a GuMiho game? A majority of his games are multitasking bio games with 10/10 aggression. A minority are the slower mech games. GuMiho's style is about making the opponent uncomfortable. GuMiho has been meching kind of consistently for his entire career. He was not known as a mech player before supernova went to the military (he is the currently highest ranked mech player on KR ladder and streams a lot). Neither was GuMiho known as a mech player when self confessed match fixer Bbyong was the first player to win a mech TvP against a multiple starleague champion (Classic), nor when Reality played hour long mech games on the regular.
The top mech players disappeared and the occasional mecher GuMiho somehow inherited the title "mech Terran" and lost his "unconventional" adjective.
Random Platinum EU
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
February 10 2023 09:50 GMT
#6
Dark vs Cure Game 2 is worth watching to see another drawn out split map TvZ, where the full range of the patch's balance changes can be observed.

Watching that game all the way through and how close Cure fought the entire time, makes it pretty hard to argue that had the patch changes not been in effect that Dark would have won.

Game is also important for showcasing just how difficult it is to play late game vs Zerg on the new maps, as the sheer number of bases on the map is also on display.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17976 Posts
February 10 2023 09:58 GMT
#7
On February 10 2023 16:51 hku wrote:
Where is the Clem hype now lul?

Eh, Clem still has plenty of chance to make it out of the group. But yeah, by losing to TIME he (probably) has to beat either Dark or Cure. Neither are easy, but also not impossible. He wins both, he's first or second seed. He does one of the two, he almost certainly clinches the 2nd or 3rd spot.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 10:05:36
February 10 2023 10:03 GMT
#8
It seems to me like even the casters are FINALLY acknowledging that Clem has major weaknesses especially in TvT. In previous tournaments certain casters with a heavy European bias (you know which ones I mean) would just gloss over this fact while endlessly hyping up how he's going to be the next Serral or Reynor.

They're not doing that as much anymore. The reality has set in even for the hypest of Clem fans that as long as he has this massive weakness against non-European Terran players his chances of winning an international tournament are slim. He'll go as far as the brackets allow him to go.

That said. He's still REALLY young, so there's more than enough time for him to grow and develop a TvT that's capable of knocking out the Korean and Chinese Terrans. But as convincingly as he got trounced by TIME in his first match it's clear that he has't reached that level yet for this tournament. It's not his time yet.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17976 Posts
February 10 2023 10:08 GMT
#9
On February 10 2023 19:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
It seems to me like even the casters are FINALLY acknowledging that Clem has major weaknesses especially in TvT. In previous tournaments certain casters with a heavy European bias (you know which ones I mean) would just gloss over this fact while endlessly hyping up how he's going to be the next Serral or Reynor.

They're not doing that as much anymore. The reality has set in even for the hypest of Clem fans that as long as he has this massive weakness against non-European Terran players his chances of winning an international tournament are slim. He'll go as far as the brackets allow him to go.

That said. He's still REALLY young, so there's more than enough time for him to grow and develop a TvT that's capable of knocking out the Korean and Chinese Terrans. But as convincingly as he got trounced by TIME in his first match it's clear that he has't reached that level yet for this tournament. It's not his time yet.

I don't disagree with this. His TvT has always been his Achilles heel and it doesn't look solved.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
February 10 2023 10:53 GMT
#10
my 2 takehomes of day 1:

Maru vs ByuN game 1 was a banger!
herO vs Solar was a wit display vby herO
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
February 10 2023 13:46 GMT
#11
ya know, clem may be still young but the game is not
xyfan
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
February 11 2023 01:40 GMT
#12
Not sure where to ask but are there interviewers or people covering events anymore?

This would be a perfect opportunity to interview pros, casterse etc. You could ask everyone about the new patch, the future of sc2, what they expect, their lifes, etc
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
710 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 11:35:38
February 11 2023 11:35 GMT
#13
did someone see neeb vs dark? wth happened there?

edit: sorry wrong thread
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
16:00
Warm Up Cup 3
uThermal485
IndyStarCraft 256
TKL 189
SteadfastSC162
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
uThermal 485
IndyStarCraft 256
mcanning 229
TKL 189
SteadfastSC 162
UpATreeSC 116
BRAT_OK 105
MindelVK 17
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 1759
Larva 867
Stork 560
Barracks 146
Shinee 73
Aegong 44
sSak 39
Terrorterran 26
Rock 26
GoRush 25
[ Show more ]
scan(afreeca) 19
Hm[arnc] 6
ajuk12(nOOB) 5
Bale 4
Dota 2
qojqva4829
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Dendi1193
Counter-Strike
apEX1269
sgares677
markeloff514
byalli264
kRYSTAL_74
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King70
Other Games
FrodaN2274
KnowMe186
ToD182
ArmadaUGS121
Skadoodle112
Trikslyr95
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3235
StarCraft 2
angryscii 29
Other Games
BasetradeTV25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 22
• davetesta10
• Adnapsc2 2
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1216
• TFBlade816
Other Games
• imaqtpie1355
• Shiphtur200
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
16h 1m
OSC
19h 1m
WardiTV European League
22h 1m
Fjant vs Babymarine
Mixu vs HiGhDrA
Gerald vs ArT
goblin vs MaNa
Jumy vs YoungYakov
Replay Cast
1d 6h
Epic.LAN
1d 18h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
CSO Contender
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Esports World Cup
5 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Championship of Russia 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters

Upcoming

CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
K-Championship
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.