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DHM Atlanta: Power Rank

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November 17th, 2022 08:10 GMT

DreamHack StarCraft II Masters: Atlanta
Power Rank

by Wax

Who are the best players in the StarCraft II scene? The answer to that question is extremely tricky to answer, with this month's AfreecaTV Champions Cup sowing the seeds of chaos everywhere. Serral invincible in PvZ? Nope. Cure an online god? Nope. Dark washed? Hell no!

In this perilous environment, we put forth another TL.net Power Rank. The DreamHack Valencia edition turned out to be a tome of truth (mostly)—will this one become a list of lies?

DreamHack StarCraft II Masters 2022: Atlanta


Honorable Mentions (in no particular order)

Winners gonna win - Neeb, DongRaeGu, Creator: Sometimes, there's just no deeper analysis to be had than "winners gonna win." Take Neeb, for example. Despite beginning university in the fall and professing to play only two or three games a day, he still managed to win the #1 seed from North America over Astrea and Scarlett. Or what about DongRaeGu, who hasn't cracked the top 15 in Aligulac rating all year (he's fallen out of the top 20 at times)? He's still strung together wins when it mattered most, making it to the playoffs of all Code S Seasons this year.

Finally, there's Creator, who makes me question my sanity for adding him to this list. But no matter how hard he underperformed in the past, he's turned his career around in 2022 to become someone who can be clutch in big moments. While he's not consistent, his Code S finals run and WTL playoff heroics suggest he could also be someone who steps up at DH Atlanta.

It's gotta work out for at least one of them, right? - TIME, Lambo, ShoWTimE: This trio feels a bit like the mirror image of the previous grouping. They're prolific competitors, often play at a high level against top-tier players, and are generally very well-regarded among their peers. Then why do their career results feel so comparatively lackluster to me? (Is that just a result of high expectations on my side?)

In the last year, all three have shown the capacity to make deep runs when everything is clicking for them. Lambo had the best result, coming within a map of winning the championship at NeXT Winter 2021. ShoWTimE was the one who had the best run lately, getting 3rd place in TSL9. And as for TIME, don't forget he finished top four in DreamHack: Last Chance earlier this year. With all three players set to play in Atlanta, surely things have to work out for one of them?

People will get mad if I don't mention them - HeroMarine, Astrea, Elazer: Let the record show that I have mentioned HeroMarine, Astrea, and Elazer.



Please god, let this run be for real - #10: GuMiho

If not for Maru's G5L, GuMiho's top four finish might have been the best story of Code S Season 3. After a slow start following his return from military service, GuMiho went on one of the most dramatic Code S runs in recent memory with TWO reverse-sweep victories in the playoffs. It wasn't just GuMiho's unorthodox builds that got him through—his mechanics looked better than they had ever been since his return.

Despite being a huge fan of GuMiho—or perhaps because I'm a big fan of GuMiho—I'm still a bit skeptical about his showing last season. Sure, his mechanics were great in Code S, but his play in some other events suggest that it's not the new normal for him. Also, it's concerning that he will lose some of his creativity advantage in a weekend event. Players fret about running out of builds in the GSL where there's DAYS between games—in DH there might only be an hour to prepare.

Never lucky - #9: Bunny

The 2022 season of the GSL has been marked by a flood of breakthrough performances, with Creator, RagnaroK, herO, DRG, and GuMiho all finishing higher than anyone ever expected.

I think Bunny is insanely unlucky to not have been on that list. He was trending hugely upward in late 2021/early 2022, placing top four in a DreamHack Season Finals and top eight at IEM Katowice. However, he couldn't build upon that success, first suffering a freak hand injury in Code S Season 1, and then getting COVID quarantined overseas just ahead of his matches in Code S Season 2 (this was especially unlucky as several other players also tested positive later—Bunny was the only one who popped early enough to require a quarantine in Spain). While Bunny did end up reaching the top four of Season 2, that was a level he had already reached in previous events. If he had been unimpeded by outside circumstances, I think he would have had a real chance to make the Code S finals.

Bunny's cosmically bad luck doesn't scare me from putting him at #9—In fact, maybe it's actually time he gets some karmic restitution.

I believe! But only up to a certain point - #8: Cure, #7: Solar, #6: ByuN

While these players are 8th~6th in the Power Rank, they're tied for 1st place in my heart because they come packaged with such a convenient narrative to write about. All three are fantastic in online play, are pretty good in the lower rounds of major offline events, but fall apart when the stakes are raised any higher. The weird thing is, all three of them have won major championships in the past: Solar is an SSL champion, Cure is a Code S champion, and ByuN is a double BlizzCon-Code S champion.

Now, I admit that these mentality-based narratives can be self-perpetuating—once it gets in your head, an otherwise 'normal' loss might look like a 'choke' instead. But when I think about how two of Cure's most important runs in the 2022/23 EPT Season—IEM Katowice and Code S Season 3—ended after he lost in dramatic upsets to weaker Terrans on paper (Dream and GuMiho), I have to think it's due to something in his head. In the case of Solar and ByuN, they've basically admitted to as much in interviews (it's so bad for ByuN that his mental stress manifests as pain in his wrists).

I genuinely believe all three are championship-caliber players at their peaks, with the issue being playing at that level when they're on stage. In terms of ordering, I'm going with Solar at the head of the pack. A lot of his eliminations have been due to his horrendous luck of constantly drawing Maru as an opponent, and not any other fault on his part. A top four or finals run could be in the cards if he avoids his nemesis.

Inflection point - #5: RagnaroK

When RagnaroK made the final six in Code S Season 1, you could have understandably passed it off as a fluke. However, through the rest of the GSL year, RagnaroK has done everything needed to prove that he is for real. He returned to the playoffs in each subsequent season, culminating in a grand finals appearance in his most recent Season 3 run. If clever proxy-hatch cheeses were the key to his success in season one, he slowly phased them out for strong macro play in subsequent tournaments. Now, I'm left with no doubt in my mind that he's one of the best Zergs in the world, and a top ten player overall.

However, I do have to wonder about what RagnaroK's ceiling is. Maru put in a brutal 'there's levels to this s***' performance in the finals against RagnaroK, blowing him out of the water in a 4-0 drubbing. After seeing that, I had to worry that RagnaroK was destined to be stuck on a plateau just below the very peak of the mountain.

Then again, maybe Maru was an unfair measuring stick—most people get the tar beat out of them in such matches. If you think about it, getting destroyed by Maru is the only big weakness RagnaroK has shown lately. Otherwise he's been great in terms of mechanics, game sense, and series planning. There's a chance—I'm not saying it's likely—but there's a CHANCE that RagnaroK is a title-tier contender with one VERY bad match-up. I'd be excited to see him play the next few players on this list.

#4 - #3: The ghosts of Reynor and Dark



Just play like Marou - #4: Clem

The Maru-Clem similarities just become more uncanny over time. We all know that both players were noticed as prodigies during their early-teen years, and that both of them owe a lot of their success to their insane hand speed. But they took it a step further last autumn by winning their fifth major domestic titles in the same season—the G5L for Maru and an "E5L" for Clem (his fifth DreamHack: Europe title).

Unfortunately for Clem, he shares some of Maru's negative traits as well. Early on in his career, Maru was known for performing poorly outside of domestic competition, only winning his first international major in the 2018 WESG Grand Finals. In a similar vein, Clem's lack of a major championship outside of Europe is currently a noticeable gap on his resume.

I should point out that 'poor' international performances are a relative term for pre-2018 Maru and present day Clem. Both made the top four or higher in multiple international majors, which would be a fantastic result for any other player. However, compared to their dominant, championship-caliber play at home, they felt lacking.

As with Maru, I have no doubt that Clem will eventually get over the hump. Up until a few weeks ago, I might even have believed DreamHack: Atlanta would be the event where it happened. After all, Clem had won his fifth DH: Europe title in extremely impressive fashion, beating essentially all of Europe's best players along the way (Lambo, MaxPax, HeroMarine, ShoWTimE, Serral, and Reynor). And then, in the AfreecaTV Champions Cup, he ran into the Korean buzzsaw as he always does, losing 1-3 to Dark in the semis. Alas, I believe the wait will go on a bit longer…

One man imba-army - #3: herO

While I'm supposed to dissuade people from getting into overheated balance arguments on TL.net, I must admit I'm very intrigued by possibility of herO winning the championship as the sole elite Protoss in the tournament. Both Maru and Serral have received the 'is the race imba, or is it the player' treatment in the past—herO completing the trinity might be the event that vindicates David Kim for all eternity.

herO has a great chance of doing so as he has almost no weaknesses. His already tremendous PvZ ability has gone through the roof. It seemed a bit questionable when he picked Serral instead of ByuN during the AfreecaTV Champions Cup group selections, but he vindicated himself by beating the Finnish Phenom to advance from the group (he lost their initial match but won the decider match for a 3-3 total map score). It's hard to see any other Zerg presenting herO with much of a challenge in a BO5+.

He's also lucked out due to #1 PvP player MaxPax's policy of not attending live events. As random as PvP can be, it really did feel like MaxPax and herO were a half-tier ahead of their peers. With the Danish Enigma gone, herO will be the favorite in every PvP.

However, there is one potentially big problem for him in high-end PvT. herO has been talking about how he's been struggling in PvT for several months now, which is rich coming from the #1 rated PvT player on Aligulac.com. But his words actually have borne out in his recent major tournament results, with Maru (Code S, TSL9) and Clem (ACC) being the only two players to eliminate him.

If a certain hat-enjoying Finn would just take out a certain GSL-trophy enjoying Korean, then the DreamHack trophy could be quite attainable for herO.

The GOAT candidates - #2: Serral, #1: Maru

Damn, who could have seen this coming? Serral and Maru are the top two players in the power rank. The last five years have seen both players elevate themselves to living legend status, and build very compelling arguments to be called the greatest of all time. Victory in Atlanta wouldn't make or break the case for either, but it would still be an additional few words of credit whereas the books for Rogue, Mvp, and others have already been closed.

But enough about big-picture stuff. Why did Serral place below Maru in this specific power ranking?

Let's start with the head-to-head. Normally, I don't put too much stock into head-to-head match-ups for the rankings, but it definitely does matter when the 'true' championship tier is so small. In this case, Serral seems to have a big advantage, having a 3-0 series lead against Maru in 2022 (all in major tournament BO5's). While Maru won games where he managed to successfully activate giga-turtle mode, he had trouble getting into that signature stance. Besides those situations, the games felt rather one-sided in favor of Serral.

Then why is Maru ahead of Serral? It's due to how well I think they'd fare against everyone else in the DreamHack: Atlanta field. Even though Maru is disadvantaged against Serral, I think he's a clear favorite against literally everyone else in the competition. With Reynor and Dark out, there aren't any ZvT threats besides Serral. herO could be a tricky opponent—Maru had to work hard to beat him in TSL9—but Maru still has the upper hand. As for Maru's TvT, that match-up has a case to be called the greatest specific race match-up of all time (forget the GOAT debate; let's start the GSRMUOAT discussion).

On the other hand, Serral has more match-ups where he faces upset potential. While it's obviously not Serral's fault that the Zerg mirror is harder to dominate than TvT, there are definitely more Zergs who have a reasonable chance of stealing a win off of him than Terrans who could hope to do so against Maru. For the non-mirrors, there's two title contenders who have to be considered even against him in Clem and herO. Though Serral is favored against Maru, there's more potential hazards for him in the rest of the field.

Laying it out like this, it feels extremely even between the two, and it basically comes down to a matter of taste. Do you think all these factors add-up to Serral being a more 'powerful' player than Maru? I wouldn't argue if you did. But personally, I believe Maru's all-around strength gives him the slightest edge in claiming the #1 spot.



Writer: Wax
Photos: DreamHack
Statistics: Aligulac.com and Liquipedia


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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
November 17 2022 09:44 GMT
#2
Where is Neeb and Astrea, they will have home-field for the entire event, and should be solid in top 10. But great write up as always, Wax.
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
November 17 2022 09:47 GMT
#3
Everytime there is just a tiny little bit of doubt ( for example after not getting out of groups at afreeca cup, not winning DH:EU) in Serral he usually comes back winning tournaments in dominating fashion. Expecting the same here.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
November 17 2022 09:50 GMT
#4
The NA contenders are both in his honourable mentions. I reckon Astrea will make a deep run this time. He just looks very sharp and has his builds sorted out, which usually takes some time after a patch. As for Neeb, I don't even know how much he's playing nowadays? If it really is two or three games a day then I highly doubt he makes it past the first knockout stage
Year of MaxPax
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
November 17 2022 10:12 GMT
#5
In Maru we trust
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
November 17 2022 11:03 GMT
#6
On November 17 2022 18:44 tigera6 wrote:
Where is Neeb and Astrea, they will have home-field for the entire event, and should be solid in top 10. But great write up as always, Wax.


As if that matters. Since when have American players performed particularly well at American events? I mean, other than Polt that is.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
November 17 2022 11:05 GMT
#7
I see what you're doing here Wax. You're trying to TL curse Maru and Serral collectively so that herO will win the tournament. I don't think it works like that. You've chosen your side, and you've chosen to curse Maru with the #1 TL Power Rank.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Bob_Vernen
Profile Joined July 2018
41 Posts
November 17 2022 11:17 GMT
#8
Wooo this is great- thank you for putting this together!!
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
November 17 2022 11:36 GMT
#9
Ragnarok in Top 5 feels wrong, even though the arguments made make perfect sense.
But I m not realy watching GSL anymore, so I could be stuck in the past there
MaxPax
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6992 Posts
November 17 2022 12:53 GMT
#10
Great write Wax! Really hope the underlying story arc of Serral beating Maru in the semis just to lose to herO in a sensational 7 games final will happen
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
327 Posts
November 17 2022 13:05 GMT
#11
Solid analysis! I especially like the logic re: the Maru, Serral 1-2 slots, seems right overall. One thing I would note though is that two of the big Serral upsetters aren't in the tournament (Reynor and Dark, both of whom have 4-0'ed him in grand finals, incidentally).
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
November 17 2022 16:43 GMT
#12
I'm most curious about Ragnarok, based on his GSL performances #5 is justified but he also hasn't had a big non-GSL performance yet (ig he's been pretty good in WTL.) DRG is similar, he's looked like a top 10 player in GSL but flopped everywhere else.

Serral's better offline than online so I'd probably rank him #1, but Maru's recent results have been better so Maru #1 is fair too.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
November 17 2022 17:40 GMT
#13
On November 17 2022 20:36 dbRic1203 wrote:
Ragnarok in Top 5 feels wrong, even though the arguments made make perfect sense.
But I m not realy watching GSL anymore, so I could be stuck in the past there


I watch GSL religiously and I still think it's wrong for him to be ranked this high. Wax is giving him a VERY large benefit of the doubt.

I have to admit though the "there's tiers to this shit!" line made me crack up.
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
November 17 2022 19:49 GMT
#14
I do hope that Bunny can put out a decent performance here, it really does feel like he's had a very unlucky year despite emerging as a top 3-5 Terran.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
November 17 2022 21:17 GMT
#15
On November 17 2022 18:47 fealx wrote:
Everytime there is just a tiny little bit of doubt ( for example after not getting out of groups at afreeca cup, not winning DH:EU) in Serral he usually comes back winning tournaments in dominating fashion. Expecting the same here.

I'm expecting him to not make it to quarterfinals.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
November 17 2022 23:16 GMT
#16
On November 18 2022 06:17 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2022 18:47 fealx wrote:
Everytime there is just a tiny little bit of doubt ( for example after not getting out of groups at afreeca cup, not winning DH:EU) in Serral he usually comes back winning tournaments in dominating fashion. Expecting the same here.

I'm expecting him to not make it to quarterfinals.



It really depends of the brackets.

It kinda sucks neither Reynor and Dark come to this event. Do we know why Dark will not travel?

I was kinda hoping for Maru to finally take that game 7.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
November 18 2022 00:06 GMT
#17
On November 18 2022 08:16 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2022 06:17 Yonnua wrote:
On November 17 2022 18:47 fealx wrote:
Everytime there is just a tiny little bit of doubt ( for example after not getting out of groups at afreeca cup, not winning DH:EU) in Serral he usually comes back winning tournaments in dominating fashion. Expecting the same here.

I'm expecting him to not make it to quarterfinals.

It kinda sucks neither Reynor and Dark come to this event. Do we know why Dark will not travel?


He's close to his military callup, so he can't leave the country without special permission. He has said that Katowice 2023 will be his last major tournament before going to the military.
tlnetuser108
Profile Joined October 2022
83 Posts
November 18 2022 01:54 GMT
#18
Good write up!

Wishing Reynor and Dark will be there!!
SLCMemento
Profile Joined February 2013
13 Posts
November 18 2022 04:53 GMT
#19
Great write up!
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
November 18 2022 07:20 GMT
#20
On November 17 2022 20:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2022 18:44 tigera6 wrote:
Where is Neeb and Astrea, they will have home-field for the entire event, and should be solid in top 10. But great write up as always, Wax.


As if that matters. Since when have American players performed particularly well at American events? I mean, other than Polt that is.


Neeb at WCS Austin. It was a hugely impressive result at the time, even though he had won Kespa cup several months before. I mean, it was difficult to predict that he would go on to win Jonkoping and Montreal in the same year
Year of MaxPax
youaremysin
Profile Joined August 2015
119 Posts
November 18 2022 08:34 GMT
#21
Maru vs ByuN led to very close games recently, I can see ByuN taking it if Maru isn't at 100% of is form which is usually the case overseas. Maybe some P players can also break him in bo3 but bo5 not so sure.
The tournament style should also be taken into consideration as some players thrive through intensive days, we could have some underdogs stories.
hyuu
Profile Joined August 2011
163 Posts
November 18 2022 09:07 GMT
#22
hilarious player categories :D :D

"People will get mad if I don't mention them" may be the GOAT category name
Iskhiaro
Profile Joined March 2011
Great Britain11 Posts
November 18 2022 10:08 GMT
#23
Feels like zoun, soo and ryung should also get mentions, they've had deep runs in tournaments people weren't expecting them to do well in before, I think they stand some long shot chance of getting deep.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
November 18 2022 10:33 GMT
#24
On November 18 2022 16:20 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2022 20:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On November 17 2022 18:44 tigera6 wrote:
Where is Neeb and Astrea, they will have home-field for the entire event, and should be solid in top 10. But great write up as always, Wax.


As if that matters. Since when have American players performed particularly well at American events? I mean, other than Polt that is.


Neeb at WCS Austin. It was a hugely impressive result at the time, even though he had won Kespa cup several months before. I mean, it was difficult to predict that he would go on to win Jonkoping and Montreal in the same year


Ok so we have exactly one event that someone can name.

Any others? Because far as I can tell over 10 years, there's no such thing as "home field" when it comes to American events. There is such a thing as home field for Korean and European events, but not for American events.
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Seacow
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden99 Posts
November 18 2022 10:58 GMT
#25
On November 18 2022 19:08 Iskhiaro wrote:
Feels like zoun, soo and ryung should also get mentions, they've had deep runs in tournaments people weren't expecting them to do well in before, I think they stand some long shot chance of getting deep.


SoO maybe, but I don't see Zoun or Ryung making it into top 24 playoffs.

Cheering for Astrea, Showtime, Scarlett and Solar!
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DLSMIZEL
Profile Joined April 2020
Philippines16 Posts
November 18 2022 12:10 GMT
#26
Let it be GuMiho!!! Let's gooooooooooo!!!!!!
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Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
194 Posts
November 18 2022 12:50 GMT
#27
What I see Maru and herO do to win just looks insanely impressive , in terms of the control and multitasking and decision making in high pace situations.

I can't put Serral next to them in skill when it comes to the abilities I mentioned above, however he is still an extremely mechanically gifted player and is a methodical genius in how he approaches the game.
And this is the reason he is not the GOAT for me, I feel like zerg has had it and still has it a bit to comfortable and is a bit to forgiving compared to Terran and Protoss.

Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1900 Posts
November 18 2022 14:21 GMT
#28
Remember the days when other writers were included in the power ranking? I remember, because I ran the PRs back then.
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TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
November 18 2022 14:39 GMT
#29
Another trophy to add to Goat Serral’s collection

He should easily clean this field, since his nemesis reynor isn’t attending
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 18 2022 15:01 GMT
#30
Thank you for mentioning HeroMarine, otherwise I would have been VERY MAD.
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Iskhiaro
Profile Joined March 2011
Great Britain11 Posts
November 18 2022 16:37 GMT
#31
On November 18 2022 19:58 Seacow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2022 19:08 Iskhiaro wrote:
Feels like zoun, soo and ryung should also get mentions, they've had deep runs in tournaments people weren't expecting them to do well in before, I think they stand some long shot chance of getting deep.


SoO maybe, but I don't see Zoun or Ryung making it into top 24 playoffs.

Cheering for Astrea, Showtime, Scarlett and Solar!


I actually feel like zoun has the best chance of the 3 to get to the knockout stages, but we'll see!

I'm cheering for protoss generally, but especially creator, showtime, astrea and hero
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33479 Posts
November 19 2022 00:45 GMT
#32
its hard to write 20 versions of "they're good but they'll lose to serral or maru"
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mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
November 19 2022 01:35 GMT
#33
I hope solar (or RagnaroK to a lesser degree) can produce some high quality meme footage
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
November 19 2022 03:10 GMT
#34
You forgot to include Scarlett in the "People will get mad if I don't mention them" category
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warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
November 19 2022 05:30 GMT
#35
On November 19 2022 12:10 argonautdice wrote:
You forgot to include Scarlett in the "People will get mad if I don't mention them" category


It's ok, WaxAngel mentioned Scarlett in passing in the 3rd paragraph. Plus WaxAngel is the author of "Trivial Rank: Top 5 Scarlett Hairstyles" https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/520247-the-top-5-scarlett-hairstyles so he gets a pass

KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-19 15:48:26
November 19 2022 15:47 GMT
#36
ragnarok shouldn't be at 5. i see him at 9 or 10.
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
November 19 2022 17:05 GMT
#37
On November 20 2022 00:47 KalWarkov wrote:
ragnarok shouldn't be at 5. i see him at 9 or 10.


He just got second in GSL and he's already finished higher in this event than Byun and Gumiho even if he loses now...
MrIronGolem27
Profile Joined July 2020
United States229 Posts
November 20 2022 21:13 GMT
#38
It's official. Wax cursed both Serral and Maru with this prediction.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-20 21:17:21
November 20 2022 21:16 GMT
#39
On November 21 2022 06:13 MrIronGolem27 wrote:
It's official. Wax cursed both Serral and Maru with this prediction.

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Well Maru lost 2-3 so the order remains right between the zerg and terran at least
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Tyrrhus
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands52 Posts
November 20 2022 22:34 GMT
#40
Nice article, also funny who turned out to be the finalists.
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mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
November 20 2022 23:05 GMT
#41
jajajajaja I woke up, look at the results and had a good laugh at the rankings
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33479 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-20 23:16:14
November 20 2022 23:16 GMT
#42
not my fault that maru and serral are worse at starcraft than I am at predicting
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Patioselite
Profile Joined November 2022
Australia1 Post
November 21 2022 14:16 GMT
#43
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GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
711 Posts
November 21 2022 14:27 GMT
#44
On November 21 2022 08:05 mintyminmus wrote:
jajajajaja I woke up, look at the results and had a good laugh at the rankings


i dunno, "never lucky - bunny" seems pretty accurate
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rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
327 Posts
November 21 2022 14:30 GMT
#45
On November 21 2022 08:16 Waxangel wrote:
not my fault that maru and serral are worse at starcraft than I am at predicting


LOL. You weren't that bad at predicting (top 3 ending up in top 4 while perhaps predictable is still pretty good). If anything, with hindsight your Clem #4 was maybe the only one that was too ambitious given his self-proclaimed challenges in TvT and so many killer Terrans in this tourney. You should feel at least a bit vindicated by seeing the Serral upset potential where few others could, and frankly Hero was probably the only player with real upset potential against Maru (Solar's wonderful performance notwithstanding).
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
327 Posts
November 21 2022 14:45 GMT
#46
Was a great tourney. Dark and Reynor were definitely missed. I came away also feeling like the semis should be Bo7. I had forgotten that GSL used to do this, and I think it's also a bummer that it has switched over to Bo5. It's the point in the tourney when you want to see the full potential of the match in terms of the two players going at it.
Vantastic
Profile Joined October 2009
United States112 Posts
November 22 2022 03:13 GMT
#47
Great write up with interesting points. I'm glad the results didn't match what's being predicted to keep it fresh and interesting.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
November 22 2022 12:45 GMT
#48
On November 21 2022 08:16 Waxangel wrote:
not my fault that maru and serral are worse at starcraft than I am at predicting



It was the most mainstream power rank except for Ragnarok honestly, Although agree with you it deserved to be that high, as for Bunny. Amazing run! and herO is a killer, but it was quite close i nthe semis and the finals. Maru could have got that final mapl, same with Bunny, could have close it earlier.
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