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ESL sold for $1B to Saudi-backed Savvy Gaming Group

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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 24 2022 20:46 GMT
#1
ESL sold for 1 Billion USD to Savvy Gaming Group from Saudi Arabia:

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33330 Posts
January 24 2022 20:46 GMT
#2
IEM Katowice? It's IEM Jeddah now
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Jakji
Profile Joined January 2022
1 Post
January 24 2022 20:52 GMT
#3
what?!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-24 20:55:05
January 24 2022 20:53 GMT
#4
Saudi Arabia has been pretty serious about trying to diversify its investments outside of petro, while simultaneously trying rebrand and boost its soft power

We'll see how this goes - I have my opinions about KSA, but have to admit I don't mind more investment pouring into eSports. Just hope they don't ruin this org
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luxon
Profile Joined August 2012
United States111 Posts
January 24 2022 21:01 GMT
#5
demuslim sweating right now about his handle choice lol
Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
January 24 2022 21:12 GMT
#6
I really detest the increasing influence dictatorships have on the entertainment sector (and not only that sector). Why can't we have nice things? :/
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1913 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-24 21:16:23
January 24 2022 21:15 GMT
#7
Damn. I already lost most of my interest in soccer because of rich arabs with awful values buying their way into western mainstream culture.

Political controversy is a fairly common thing in E-sports. What will be the consequenze if a player shows symphaties in one of the many wars and conflicts Saudi-Arabia is involved with?

It might be a financial move only, but I find it is sad to see this happen to ESL.
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tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States362 Posts
January 24 2022 21:45 GMT
#8
This is quite a twist that I, or many of us, were not expecting. What does this mean? What are the implications? Saudi Arabia rising?
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
January 24 2022 21:57 GMT
#9
$1 billion? Way overpaid
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 24 2022 22:11 GMT
#10
the Iron Sheik has always been my favourite wrestler
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-24 22:15:11
January 24 2022 22:13 GMT
#11
Saudi Arabians becoming the main international diffusers of a game based on killing generic turban-weering middle-estern terrorist fighting the West is a trully facinating exemple of the mind-bogling realities of modern international capitalism.

But past the irony, not sure I like it for SC2, I'd preffer if no one looked to closely at us.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33330 Posts
January 24 2022 22:22 GMT
#12
On January 25 2022 07:13 Nakajin wrote:
Saudi Arabians becoming the main international diffusers of a game based on killing generic turban-weering middle-estern terrorist fighting the West is a trully facinating exemple of the mind-bogling realities of modern international capitalism.

But past the irony, not sure I like it for SC2, I'd preffer if no one looked to closely at us.


Were there old versions of CS where the terrorists were stereotype middle-eastern? From what I've played of CSGO and source, it seemed like that was avoided pretty intentionally.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
iloveoof
Profile Joined July 2019
12 Posts
January 24 2022 22:25 GMT
#13
I’m totally uncomfortable with this even if the new management keeps their commitment to Starcraft 2. ESL has spent so long cultivating a great and well-earned reputation and this is devastating to it.
honorablemacroterran
Profile Joined January 2022
188 Posts
January 24 2022 22:33 GMT
#14
On January 25 2022 07:22 Waxangel wrote:
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On January 25 2022 07:13 Nakajin wrote:
Saudi Arabians becoming the main international diffusers of a game based on killing generic turban-weering middle-estern terrorist fighting the West is a trully facinating exemple of the mind-bogling realities of modern international capitalism.

But past the irony, not sure I like it for SC2, I'd preffer if no one looked to closely at us.


Were there old versions of CS where the terrorists were stereotype middle-eastern? From what I've played of CSGO and source, it seemed like that was avoided pretty intentionally.


CS has different skins for the teams depending on the map. Sometimes the CTs are Seal Team Six, sometimes SAS, and various other European counter-terrorist/special forces teams. One of the terrorist factions was definitely Middle Eastern themed last time I played. There's also Anarchists, Basque Separatists, etc. etc.
Telephone
Profile Joined October 2010
United States138 Posts
January 24 2022 23:08 GMT
#15
According to the article, Savvy Gaming Group is led by CEO Brian Ward, who was once Senior Vice President, Worldwide Studios at Activision Blizzard.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-24 23:11:56
January 24 2022 23:10 GMT
#16
On January 25 2022 07:22 Waxangel wrote:
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On January 25 2022 07:13 Nakajin wrote:
Saudi Arabians becoming the main international diffusers of a game based on killing generic turban-weering middle-estern terrorist fighting the West is a trully facinating exemple of the mind-bogling realities of modern international capitalism.

But past the irony, not sure I like it for SC2, I'd preffer if no one looked to closely at us.


Were there old versions of CS where the terrorists were stereotype middle-eastern? From what I've played of CSGO and source, it seemed like that was avoided pretty intentionally.


Oh, well I gotta be honest I haven't played CS in like 10 years, but my memory of it were the terrorist on like Dust 2 and those seemed pretty much standard middle estern terrorist.
Could be totally wrong for sure.
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LHK
Profile Joined May 2015
204 Posts
January 24 2022 23:18 GMT
#17
i do not like this
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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
January 24 2022 23:44 GMT
#18
Considering this group is not only buying ESL but also FaceIT for an additional $500 million, means this deal is primarily about acquiring CS:GO assets and not so much about StarCraft 2.

Now how this deal affects SC2 obviously remains to be seen.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
January 25 2022 00:03 GMT
#19
Well, fuck. At least ESL's former owners have $$$ now
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33330 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-25 01:18:21
January 25 2022 00:20 GMT
#20
On January 25 2022 08:44 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Considering this group is not only buying ESL but also FaceIT for an additional $500 million, means this deal is primarily about acquiring CS:GO assets and not so much about StarCraft 2.

Now how this deal affects SC2 obviously remains to be seen.


Well, the 2022/23 EPT plan is already laid out, and SC2 is so minor for ESL I imagine it doesn't affect the operations of the league much at all. I think the way fans will notice it most is if random Saudi ventures (NEOM, etc) become the main sponsors of EPT and are prominently displayed/ads played every break. Mind you, this is just talking about how it might affect ESL SC2 in practical terms, not the underlying issue of principle.

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