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Graphics bySalon Alpin
April 16th, 2021 14:48 GMT
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Hello folks! I’m Andrew Quan, the new tournament director for TSL. I’m handling all of TL’s tournaments moving forward, with some of the previous staffers acting as advisors. Though this will be my first TSL to run, I’ve actually had the pleasure of working on several SC2 events before. It’s an honor and privilege today for me to announce some of the details for the seventh TeamLiquid StarLeague. As a recent addition to the Team Liquid- er, team, but an old school StarCraft fan, I’ll work hard to make TSL 7 a worthy addition to TSL. Before I really start diving into the details, I’d like to give a huge thank you to our sponsors. The Shopify TSL 7 would not be possible without Twitch, Secretlab, IMC, and of course, Shopify!

Now, on to the event. We’ve taken the feedback from TSL 6 and made some adjustments that we think make sense. For the most part, things will be staying the same. We’ve got a very similar roster of talent lined up, we’ll be playing for three full weekends of games, and Shopify is returning as our wonderful title sponsor.

There are some things that we’re changing, though, and I’ll be breaking down each of those changes below. If you want an overview of all our changes, here’s a TL;DR:
+ Show Spoiler +

6 Qualifiers: 2 KR, 2 EU, 2 NA/Rest of the World. Region locked.
15 Qualifying Players: 6 EU, 5 KR, 4 NA/Rest of the World
8 Invited Players -> 1 Invited Player: Dark
32 Players -> 16 Players
TSL 7 will be entirely Double Elimination, effectively removing the Ro32 from TSL 6.
Best of 7 matches will be adopted earlier in the tournament. The first rounds will remain Bo5.
We’re starting 2 hours earlier, at 9 AM Eastern/3 PM Central European/10 PM Korea

The biggest feedback for us was the long hours. Our casters, players, and production team were all exhausted each day of TSL6. It’s clear to us that the schedule wasn’t feasible to maintain. This was the primary motivator for two of our changes:

  • First, we’ll be dropping the total number of players from 32 to 16.
  • Second, we’re making the format a full Double Elimination bracket.
These two combine to drop out 16 Best of 5s at the start of the event, which helps even out our schedule and have more consistency between the first few rounds. To help balance out this drop in total matches, we’re also making an adjustment to the series length earlier in the event:
  • Now, all matches that are in or past the Winner’s Round 2 or Loser’s Round 3 will be Best of 7.

A result of this change in players is that we also needed to reexamine our invitations. Previously, we invited 8 players, which would now mean half of our players were invited. To try to avoid a “rich getting richer” scenario with regard to EPT points, we’re changing that, too. This time, we’ll only have a single invitation, to our most recent champion: Dark.

The other 15 players will qualify through a series of 6 Qualifiers. We’ll be hosting 2 each in Korea, Europe, and North America. We’ve decided to region lock each of these qualifiers, and will only accept players participating in that region if they’ve had residence in an applicable country for a minimum of 6 months. Here’s how it breaks down:

Region# Qualified# QualifiersTop X per Qualifier
South Korea52Top 3, then top 2
Europe62Top 3
North America42Top 2

We will be maintaining the same format for the qualifiers: Single Elimination (plus Third Place) for Korea and Double Elimination for Europe and North America. Here are the Qualifier schedules:

RegionStart TimeEst. End TimeQualified
Korea #1Apr 30 4:00am GMTMay 01 10:00am GMTTop 3
Europe #1May 01 11:00am GMTMay 02 6:00pm GMTTop 3
N. America #1May 01 5:00pm GMTMay 03 12:00am GMTTop 2
Korea #2May 07 4:00am GMTMay 08 10:00am GMTTop 2
Europe #2May 08 11:00am GMTMay 09 6:00pm GMTTop 3
N. America #2May 08 11:00pm GMTMay 10 6:00am GMTTop 2

Expect more information on the qualifiers in the next week, including where and how to join! We’ll also be releasing all the information and process for any community casters who are interested in covering those matches.

Last up, the change in our main event broadcast time. It’ll always be difficult for us to juggle a good time across the three big regions, but we’d like to make it a little less brutal for the Korean players this time around. For the broadcast, we’ll be streaming on June 12-13, June 19-20, and June 26-27. Each day, we’ll be starting at 9 AM Eastern/3 PM Central European/10 PM Korea.

We realize there’s going to be some overlap here with the World Team League, but we’re in contact with their admins to minimize those issues as much as possible, and to let all the overlapping players compete in both.

We’re enormously excited to begin our qualifiers in two weeks and to announce our commentator line up once that’s all signed and sealed. And once again, this is all thanks to our generous and supportive sponsors. It has been an absolute pleasure to work with Shopify for past events and in the preparation we’ve done so far for TSL 7, and they’re excited to be involved as well:

We are thrilled for Shopify to be a part of the event once more! TSL5 and TSL6 had been an absolute pleasure to watch and were two of my favourite tournaments in 2020. The quality of games in the last TSL were absolutely mind blowing. I look forward to more amazing SC2 accompanied by the unique production that comes with TSL.
GL HF everyone!

— Dario "TLO" Wuensch
Head of Player Development, Shopify Rebellion

See you on stream!
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nice__username
Profile Joined April 2018
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-16 17:03:14
April 16 2021 17:02 GMT
#2
yay! lmk if you wanna do fun stuff again , i did some things for the last 2
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 16 2021 17:20 GMT
#3
Shopify delivering once again!
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3356 Posts
April 16 2021 17:21 GMT
#4
damn, SC2 is coming full force with all the tournaments, love to hear it. Great job at keeping the event up.
Liquid`MaNa
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland104 Posts
April 16 2021 17:23 GMT
#5
Let's go!!
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 16 2021 17:28 GMT
#6
Sounds good, great for everyone to see another TSL!
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
April 16 2021 17:35 GMT
#7
The more of these the better.
CommentatorNever give up, Never surrender
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
April 16 2021 17:41 GMT
#8
I hope we would have offline TSL event soon!
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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1621 Posts
April 16 2021 18:06 GMT
#9
over or under 1 NA player qualifying guys?
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
April 16 2021 18:07 GMT
#10
Really good changes in the format. Less invites and double elim.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
April 16 2021 18:14 GMT
#11
Wow I didn't even know there was a 6, they're going quickly these days
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Profile Joined March 2013
France24193 Posts
April 16 2021 18:15 GMT
#12
great news, can't wait ^^
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
April 16 2021 18:15 GMT
#13
Hello Andrew, gg wp TLO once again! It's a bit sad to have a smaller field but understandable, and the format should provide for a lot of great series.
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Legendk
Profile Joined October 2012
France230 Posts
April 16 2021 18:21 GMT
#14
Hope that the qualifiers will be open for community caster
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
April 16 2021 18:31 GMT
#15
Hellyeah! I love that TSL is happening so much more often these days!
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4187 Posts
April 16 2021 18:42 GMT
#16
please get some "oldschool korean hype music" back on, TSL 5 and 6 plonking noises were killing me and my hype..

thanks for organizing

GL HF all!
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thedz
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States217 Posts
April 16 2021 19:53 GMT
#17
can't wait!!
charlie123abc
Profile Joined April 2021
2 Posts
April 16 2021 19:55 GMT
#18
Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
April 16 2021 20:33 GMT
#19
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 16 2021 20:46 GMT
#20
The ratio 6:6:4 is very nice for NA

Also nice for the time change.
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112StaminaX
Profile Joined June 2020
37 Posts
April 16 2021 21:12 GMT
#21
as long as we continue to be as hardcore as ever sc2 will always be a viable event, hey, we are the demographic that actually has money to spend. shopify, advertise me some shit!
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1621 Posts
April 16 2021 22:33 GMT
#22
On April 17 2021 05:46 deacon.frost wrote:
The ratio 6:6:4 is very nice for NA

Also nice for the time change.


I mean all that really is is 4 more Korean spots.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 16 2021 22:37 GMT
#23
On April 17 2021 07:33 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 05:46 deacon.frost wrote:
The ratio 6:6:4 is very nice for NA

Also nice for the time change.


I mean all that really is is 4 more Korean spots.


That's not true.... Europeans definitely have a real shot of qualifying through NA too.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-16 22:45:10
April 16 2021 22:42 GMT
#24
On April 17 2021 07:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 07:33 CicadaSC wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:46 deacon.frost wrote:
The ratio 6:6:4 is very nice for NA

Also nice for the time change.


I mean all that really is is 4 more Korean spots.


That's not true.... Europeans definitely have a real shot of qualifying through NA too.

It quite clearly says the qualifiers are region locked
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 16 2021 22:46 GMT
#25
Cool, more TSL more fun!
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PabloSanchez
Profile Joined August 2016
United States37 Posts
April 16 2021 22:46 GMT
#26
This is awesome and we should do this forever. Including the bracket contest, not that I have a title to protect or anything....*reads quote from Wardi below*
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 16 2021 22:49 GMT
#27
On April 17 2021 07:42 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 07:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 17 2021 07:33 CicadaSC wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:46 deacon.frost wrote:
The ratio 6:6:4 is very nice for NA

Also nice for the time change.


I mean all that really is is 4 more Korean spots.


That's not true.... Europeans definitely have a real shot of qualifying through NA too.

It quite clearly says the qualifiers are region locked

Yea, that's why I wrote it's nice of them
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 16 2021 22:56 GMT
#28
On April 17 2021 07:42 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 07:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 17 2021 07:33 CicadaSC wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:46 deacon.frost wrote:
The ratio 6:6:4 is very nice for NA

Also nice for the time change.


I mean all that really is is 4 more Korean spots.


That's not true.... Europeans definitely have a real shot of qualifying through NA too.

It quite clearly says the qualifiers are region locked


Ah.. right.

Well there's always the chance that TLO qualifies through his own tournament.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
April 16 2021 23:04 GMT
#29
TSL HYPE! <3
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WrexSC2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States51 Posts
April 16 2021 23:29 GMT
#30
This is very exciting and very good for the SC2 scene. Thanks to all involved in making this a reality.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 16 2021 23:48 GMT
#31
On April 17 2021 07:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 07:42 Elentos wrote:
On April 17 2021 07:37 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On April 17 2021 07:33 CicadaSC wrote:
On April 17 2021 05:46 deacon.frost wrote:
The ratio 6:6:4 is very nice for NA

Also nice for the time change.


I mean all that really is is 4 more Korean spots.


That's not true.... Europeans definitely have a real shot of qualifying through NA too.

It quite clearly says the qualifiers are region locked


Ah.. right.

Well there's always the chance that TLO qualifies through his own tournament.

Then we need Shopify Octagons! Clearly not copied from WTL and hype for TLOs stats
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Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-17 00:27:01
April 17 2021 00:26 GMT
#32
Love Shopify for doing this!
Is it really a good idea to give NA 4 Spots? Seems overkill if you compare the players to the rest of the world.

Still really looking forward to it and i can't wait to cheer all those players on from home
Hope there will be player cams!
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
April 17 2021 00:40 GMT
#33
On April 17 2021 09:26 Haku wrote:
Love Shopify for doing this!
Is it really a good idea to give NA 4 Spots? Seems overkill if you compare the players to the rest of the world.

Still really looking forward to it and i can't wait to cheer all those players on from home
Hope there will be player cams!


I think its really hard to try to get the number right. too few and your coming off as saying the whole region isn't good enough but too many and it leads to an imbalanced tournament field. 4 seems like a good number. aknowledges a difference while not giving either Europe or SK too much of an advantage and keeping it somewhat of a global tournament. I'm not really sure if there was a better option without completely changing it up and doing some weird sort of hybrid of open global qualifiers and regional ones which would create their own issues. Theirs really no correct system.
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mpmaley86
Profile Joined May 2019
115 Posts
April 17 2021 01:28 GMT
#34
Very happy to see this!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 17 2021 03:17 GMT
#35
People questioning NA getting 4 spots when Neeb/Astrea/Scarlett/Special all exist.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44250 Posts
April 17 2021 03:21 GMT
#36
This is great news!
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
April 17 2021 04:33 GMT
#37
On April 17 2021 12:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:
People questioning NA getting 4 spots when Neeb/Astrea/Scarlett/Special all exist.


They're good players, but most people would consider Koreans 7-10 to be better than them. So obviously the number of spots to allocate per region is always a judgement call on the part of the organizer.
Roqu
Profile Joined December 2004
United States26 Posts
April 17 2021 04:38 GMT
#38
This looks serious.
:O :O :O
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5501 Posts
April 17 2021 04:55 GMT
#39
WOOOOOT!
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
April 17 2021 05:59 GMT
#40
So glad to see TSL returning as a true fixture of the scene again, and not just for a one off event in TSL6. Shopify continues to crush it with their support for SC2
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Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
April 17 2021 06:10 GMT
#41
Between Shaun Clark and Tobias Lütke the competitive scene in SC2 is going strong!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
April 17 2021 06:23 GMT
#42
Man I loved the long hours - although it's 100% understandable that everyone involved in producing those hours would not.
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
April 17 2021 07:41 GMT
#43
Nice.

All that's really left to see now is whether the production crew has the proverbial balls to go full clown mode again.
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4726 Posts
April 17 2021 07:44 GMT
#44
Glad its happening.
Pathetic Greta hater.
LemonyTang
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom428 Posts
April 17 2021 08:20 GMT
#45
yes yes lets goooo shopify!!
Mvp #1
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3356 Posts
April 17 2021 08:37 GMT
#46
So the 4 seeds from AM server is pretty much set. EU got 6 seeds is a bit generous imo, after the big 3 and the 2 German players, it would be a fight among Soul, MaxPax and others. Korean qualifier will be brutal and nobody will be certain to make through it. Btw, players like TIME and Nice will have to qualify through KR server?
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
April 17 2021 08:39 GMT
#47
nice surprise!
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
April 17 2021 08:40 GMT
#48
On April 17 2021 17:37 tigera6 wrote:
So the 4 seeds from AM server is pretty much set. EU got 6 seeds is a bit generous imo, after the big 3 and the 2 German players, it would be a fight among Soul, MaxPax and others. Korean qualifier will be brutal and nobody will be certain to make through it. Btw, players like TIME and Nice will have to qualify through KR server?


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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-17 09:06:48
April 17 2021 08:46 GMT
#49
SpeCial technically should have to qualify via Korea despite having to leave for home, since he's been living there in the past six months. Also, I think China etc. can play in the NA qualifiers (comment by TLO regarding this).
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oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
April 17 2021 08:56 GMT
#50
nice
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
April 17 2021 09:22 GMT
#51
On April 17 2021 17:46 TheOneAboveU wrote:
SpeCial technically should have to qualify via Korea despite having to leave for home, since he's been living there in the past six months. Also, I think China etc. can play in the NA qualifiers (comment by TLO regarding this).

I figure residence is only necessary if you don't have citizenship.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12792 Posts
April 17 2021 09:30 GMT
#52
Great, can't wait!
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
April 17 2021 10:22 GMT
#53
On April 17 2021 18:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 17:46 TheOneAboveU wrote:
SpeCial technically should have to qualify via Korea despite having to leave for home, since he's been living there in the past six months. Also, I think China etc. can play in the NA qualifiers (comment by TLO regarding this).

I figure residence is only necessary if you don't have citizenship.

Ah yes, that might well be the case.
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
April 17 2021 11:49 GMT
#54
On April 17 2021 17:37 tigera6 wrote:
So the 4 seeds from AM server is pretty much set. EU got 6 seeds is a bit generous imo, after the big 3 and the 2 German players, it would be a fight among Soul, MaxPax and others. Korean qualifier will be brutal and nobody will be certain to make through it. Btw, players like TIME and Nice will have to qualify through KR server?


Probably 5/6 spots for EU and 3 for NA/World would have been better; in any of case, will TY, Stats and Zest be able to play? I think so, if not current spots for Korea would be about right.
SpecKROELLchen
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany151 Posts
April 17 2021 12:14 GMT
#55
Thank you very much! That is great
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States362 Posts
April 17 2021 13:07 GMT
#56
Wow super exciting! Interesting only 16 players, including reigning TSL6 champion Dark, will be vying for the title. Good to know it’ll only span three weekends again. Yay more best-of-sevens.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3356 Posts
April 17 2021 14:32 GMT
#57
On April 17 2021 20:49 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2021 17:37 tigera6 wrote:
So the 4 seeds from AM server is pretty much set. EU got 6 seeds is a bit generous imo, after the big 3 and the 2 German players, it would be a fight among Soul, MaxPax and others. Korean qualifier will be brutal and nobody will be certain to make through it. Btw, players like TIME and Nice will have to qualify through KR server?


Probably 5/6 spots for EU and 3 for NA/World would have been better; in any of case, will TY, Stats and Zest be able to play? I think so, if not current spots for Korea would be about right.

If what the other thread is correct about Flash going to the military service in 3 weeks, then I think our SC2 players will join around the same time. So they wont be able to do any more tournament after the current code S. There are still a bunch of players fighting for those 5 spots though, top candidates would be Maru Byun Inno Cure Rogue Solar Trap Parting.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
April 17 2021 15:17 GMT
#58
16 players... I’m not sure how to feel about this. Instead of running it over 3 weekends I think it’ll be better to run it over a longer period of time. I can’t see the Koreans be happy having to play till like 3AM again.
thislooksgreat1
Profile Joined January 2020
59 Posts
April 17 2021 15:35 GMT
#59
Any Brood war?
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States830 Posts
April 17 2021 15:37 GMT
#60
Hell yes
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Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1195 Posts
April 17 2021 15:41 GMT
#61
Awesome! Thanks Shopify and TL. There definitely is a need for these events. Last TSL was good and looks like this will be too. Liking the changes except the more bo7s.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-17 17:17:35
April 17 2021 17:17 GMT
#62
On April 18 2021 00:17 geokilla wrote:
16 players... I’m not sure how to feel about this. Instead of running it over 3 weekends I think it’ll be better to run it over a longer period of time. I can’t see the Koreans be happy having to play till like 3AM again.


They have to avoid running into the DH Master Global Summer, which will start on Jul 1. I think 3 weeks are plenty of time for a tournament, as there are other Premiere tounaments running during that span as well.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
April 17 2021 18:01 GMT
#63
Wish the player pool was bigger but still very happy about the announcement. Thank you, Shopify!
EndlessViolence
Profile Joined January 2011
114 Posts
April 17 2021 22:01 GMT
#64
sick news!!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4187 Posts
April 17 2021 22:13 GMT
#65
go for 24 players next time maybe
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
April 17 2021 22:49 GMT
#66
On April 18 2021 02:17 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 00:17 geokilla wrote:
16 players... I’m not sure how to feel about this. Instead of running it over 3 weekends I think it’ll be better to run it over a longer period of time. I can’t see the Koreans be happy having to play till like 3AM again.


They have to avoid running into the DH Master Global Summer, which will start on Jul 1. I think 3 weeks are plenty of time for a tournament, as there are other Premiere tounaments running during that span as well.

Start it earlier then? Play during the week like CS:GO? I didn’t check the calendar but there isn’t much going on during the week is there?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3356 Posts
April 18 2021 03:55 GMT
#67
On April 18 2021 07:49 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 02:17 tigera6 wrote:
On April 18 2021 00:17 geokilla wrote:
16 players... I’m not sure how to feel about this. Instead of running it over 3 weekends I think it’ll be better to run it over a longer period of time. I can’t see the Koreans be happy having to play till like 3AM again.


They have to avoid running into the DH Master Global Summer, which will start on Jul 1. I think 3 weeks are plenty of time for a tournament, as there are other Premiere tounaments running during that span as well.

Start it earlier then? Play during the week like CS:GO? I didn’t check the calendar but there isn’t much going on during the week is there?

There are actually a lot of SC2 tournament going on in June, GSL might start the Code S season 2 qualifier sometimes in June, we also will have the DH Regional tournament, the Chinese Premiere tournament which is also part of the ESL season, and the World Team League running in the weekend. Even if they shift TSL to a week earlier, it will be among those events.
I am actually quite suprised to see this many events got pushed into a month. Meanwhile, after the DH Summer Global Final in July, there seems to be nothing else going on but the GSL for Koreans.
hjpalpha
Profile Joined August 2017
Germany339 Posts
April 18 2021 06:18 GMT
#68
On April 18 2021 12:55 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 07:49 geokilla wrote:
On April 18 2021 02:17 tigera6 wrote:
On April 18 2021 00:17 geokilla wrote:
16 players... I’m not sure how to feel about this. Instead of running it over 3 weekends I think it’ll be better to run it over a longer period of time. I can’t see the Koreans be happy having to play till like 3AM again.


They have to avoid running into the DH Master Global Summer, which will start on Jul 1. I think 3 weeks are plenty of time for a tournament, as there are other Premiere tounaments running during that span as well.

Start it earlier then? Play during the week like CS:GO? I didn’t check the calendar but there isn’t much going on during the week is there?

There are actually a lot of SC2 tournament going on in June, GSL might start the Code S season 2 qualifier sometimes in June, we also will have the DH Regional tournament, the Chinese Premiere tournament which is also part of the ESL season, and the World Team League running in the weekend. Even if they shift TSL to a week earlier, it will be among those events.
I am actually quite suprised to see this many events got pushed into a month. Meanwhile, after the DH Summer Global Final in July, there seems to be nothing else going on but the GSL for Koreans.


Let's say "Meanwhile, after the DH Summer Global Final in July, there seems to be nothing else announced but the GSL for Koreans."
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 18 2021 10:03 GMT
#69
Really happy about the changes made and really hyped for TSL7.

Only 16 players is a bummer, but this will only make the qualifiers more cut-throat which will be awesome.
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
April 19 2021 06:58 GMT
#70
Awesome news!
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6902 Posts
April 19 2021 07:11 GMT
#71
On April 18 2021 15:18 hjpalpha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 12:55 tigera6 wrote:
On April 18 2021 07:49 geokilla wrote:
On April 18 2021 02:17 tigera6 wrote:
On April 18 2021 00:17 geokilla wrote:
16 players... I’m not sure how to feel about this. Instead of running it over 3 weekends I think it’ll be better to run it over a longer period of time. I can’t see the Koreans be happy having to play till like 3AM again.


They have to avoid running into the DH Master Global Summer, which will start on Jul 1. I think 3 weeks are plenty of time for a tournament, as there are other Premiere tounaments running during that span as well.

Start it earlier then? Play during the week like CS:GO? I didn’t check the calendar but there isn’t much going on during the week is there?

There are actually a lot of SC2 tournament going on in June, GSL might start the Code S season 2 qualifier sometimes in June, we also will have the DH Regional tournament, the Chinese Premiere tournament which is also part of the ESL season, and the World Team League running in the weekend. Even if they shift TSL to a week earlier, it will be among those events.
I am actually quite suprised to see this many events got pushed into a month. Meanwhile, after the DH Summer Global Final in July, there seems to be nothing else going on but the GSL for Koreans.


Let's say "Meanwhile, after the DH Summer Global Final in July, there seems to be nothing else announced but the GSL for Koreans."


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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom944 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 07:35:27
April 19 2021 07:34 GMT
#72
Why are the Korean qualifiers single-elimination when the European and American qualifiers are double-elimination? Wouldn't it be better to have the same format for both? I'm assuming there's a nuance I'm missing here!
"You have to play for yourself, you have to play to get better; you can't play to make other people happy, that's not gonna ever sustain you." - NonY
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6902 Posts
April 19 2021 07:37 GMT
#73
On April 19 2021 16:34 MJG wrote:
Why are the Korean qualifiers single-elimination when the European and American qualifiers are double-elimination? Wouldn't it be better to have the same format for both? I'm assuming there's a nuance I'm missing here!


AFAIK the Koreans wanted it this way. At least that's what happened in TSL 6
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14458 Posts
April 19 2021 07:37 GMT
#74
On April 19 2021 16:34 MJG wrote:
Why are the Korean qualifiers single-elimination when the European and American qualifiers are double-elimination? Wouldn't it be better to have the same format for both? I'm assuming there's a nuance I'm missing here!

In general Korean players are not interested in playing double elimination, format was tried for TSL 5 and reverted back to single elimination for TSL 6.
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom944 Posts
April 19 2021 10:58 GMT
#75
On April 19 2021 16:37 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 16:34 MJG wrote:
Why are the Korean qualifiers single-elimination when the European and American qualifiers are double-elimination? Wouldn't it be better to have the same format for both? I'm assuming there's a nuance I'm missing here!


AFAIK the Koreans wanted it this way. At least that's what happened in TSL 6

On April 19 2021 16:37 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 16:34 MJG wrote:
Why are the Korean qualifiers single-elimination when the European and American qualifiers are double-elimination? Wouldn't it be better to have the same format for both? I'm assuming there's a nuance I'm missing here!

In general Korean players are not interested in playing double elimination, format was tried for TSL 5 and reverted back to single elimination for TSL 6.

What a strange cultural difference. Nice to know, thanks guys!
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3356 Posts
April 19 2021 15:19 GMT
#76
That is indeed strange because the recent GSL qualifier was actually double-elimination.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6902 Posts
April 19 2021 15:40 GMT
#77
On April 20 2021 00:19 tigera6 wrote:
That is indeed strange because the recent GSL qualifier was actually double-elimination.


TSL5 KR qualifiers was full of walkovers cause players didn't show up to their LB matches. It was then changed to single elim. No idea if it was just poorly communicated or a cultural thing or whatever
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dr3am_b3ing
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada188 Posts
April 20 2021 04:33 GMT
#78
Thank god for removing the RO 32 with the region lock
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546marine
Profile Joined January 2013
United States22 Posts
April 20 2021 20:26 GMT
#79
Any chance there will be any gear available? My HSC hoodie could use some days off lol
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
April 20 2021 21:29 GMT
#80
Ahh glad that this way Dark is finally forced to participate in an international tourney.😀
126
Profile Joined October 2017
11 Posts
April 21 2021 06:54 GMT
#81
On April 17 2021 05:46 deacon.frost wrote:
The ratio 6:6:4 is very nice for NA

Also nice for the time change.


way too much NA slots. huge decrease of quality in such a small group of players...
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
April 21 2021 19:56 GMT
#82
This is great news, can't wait for the games!
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CreightonOlsen
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
United States366 Posts
April 26 2021 19:45 GMT
#83
On April 16 2021 23:48 SeaGnome wrote:
Though this will be my first TSL to run, I’ve actually had the pleasure of working on several SC2 events before.


Busted.

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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
April 27 2021 05:42 GMT
#84
On April 19 2021 19:58 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 16:37 Harris1st wrote:
On April 19 2021 16:34 MJG wrote:
Why are the Korean qualifiers single-elimination when the European and American qualifiers are double-elimination? Wouldn't it be better to have the same format for both? I'm assuming there's a nuance I'm missing here!


AFAIK the Koreans wanted it this way. At least that's what happened in TSL 6

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 16:37 Aeromi wrote:
On April 19 2021 16:34 MJG wrote:
Why are the Korean qualifiers single-elimination when the European and American qualifiers are double-elimination? Wouldn't it be better to have the same format for both? I'm assuming there's a nuance I'm missing here!

In general Korean players are not interested in playing double elimination, format was tried for TSL 5 and reverted back to single elimination for TSL 6.

What a strange cultural difference. Nice to know, thanks guys!



was this always a thing. I remember way back the MLG qualifiers were double elim for Korea. (too be fair that was a long long time ago.) Is this a holdover from pro BW maybe?
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
April 29 2021 20:57 GMT
#85
Happy to see invites are dropped (except for the champ). Let's have some really fun qualifiers!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3356 Posts
April 30 2021 04:49 GMT
#86
Another "dud" showout for the KR qualifer today, none of the top Terran shows up, no Rogue, Trap, Parting. Will LMAO if they all joins in the 2nd qualifer only to get eliminated.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
April 30 2021 06:52 GMT
#87
I just noticed Leenock played in the qualifier! (Wiki)TeamLiquid StarLeague/7/Korea
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 30 2021 07:12 GMT
#88
On April 30 2021 15:52 Die4Ever wrote:
I just noticed Leenock played in the qualifier! https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/TeamLiquid_StarLeague/7/Korea

Yeah, Leenock and Keen have finished their services
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MajiN1
Profile Joined July 2017
113 Posts
April 30 2021 08:44 GMT
#89
Strange so few players for the first qualifier.
The next one (and last one) will be the same day that the last qualifier for Netease event. Big day for Korean (7th of may)

Leenock is back !! So good we need of some crazy korean zergs
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mecanicox
Profile Joined January 2021
5 Posts
June 28 2021 13:59 GMT
#90
Hi, there will be replay pack?
thanks.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 28 2021 17:02 GMT
#91
There should be one on Wednesday.
olimoley
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States742 Posts
June 29 2021 05:36 GMT
#92
Replay Pack will be posted on Wednesday with our TSL 7 wrap-up post
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mecanicox
Profile Joined January 2021
5 Posts
June 29 2021 15:34 GMT
#93
Thanks
rycho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States360 Posts
June 29 2021 18:38 GMT
#94
Loved the event. Still catching some of the VODs of the matches I missed.
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